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Crazy Permutations, blew my mind! *splat*

  • 16-11-2012 11:31am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭


    I just thought this was astounding:

    If you take a simple 52 card deck, there are 52! different permutations of arranging that deck. (that's 80658175170943900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)

    that means that there are more ways of arranging a simple deck of cards than there are atoms in the human body.

    More so, there are more ways of arranging a simple deck of cards than there are atoms which make up all of planet earth.

    If you want to get an idea of equivilancy, you have to count up the atoms in our entire solar system (the sun, all the planets and the moons), in fact you need just over 67 billion of our solar systems! Only then do you have nearly the same number of atoms as there are combinations of arranging a humble deck of cards.

    your useless fact of the day :)


    reference: http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...2124.Ph.r.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 pcnoobie


    haha you said Permutations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    i get the same thing from IPv6.

    xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx

    where each 'x' represents a hexadecimal number(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f) which is of a base of 16.

    this can generate a stupid amount of ip addresses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Lay off the stuff for a while .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭neil_hosey


    didnt read the full post :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    FatherLen wrote: »
    i get the same thing from IPv6.

    xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx

    where each 'x' represents a hexadecimal number(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f) which is of a base of 16.

    this can generate a stupid amount of ip addresses.

    Ha! Give it twenty years and they'll be asking why they didn't make it IPv8 :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭Bipolar Joe


    Someone's been watching QI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    Ha! Give it twenty years and they'll be asking why they didn't make it IPv8 :pac:


    i don't know my maths might be wrong but i think it makes about 45000000000000000000000000000 ip addresses for every person on the planet. probabaly more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    If you take a simple 52 card deck, there are 52! different permutations of arranging that deck. (that's 80658175170943900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000)

    You can double that figure if you turn them over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    Someone's been watching QI.

    Was thinking the exact same thing when I saw the message preview.



    QI - the source of all brilliant stuff in the universe :)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_and_mathematics

    Number of positions. 2.08168199382×10^170 ( 171 digit number)

    Maximum number of possible games -Multiply ten by itself 171 times and that's how many zeros you need :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭B_Fanatic


    Valetta wrote: »
    You can double that figure if you turn them over.
    The figure would be a LOT more than double. I'll see if I can work it out/get someone to work it out. (It's also much more complicated too :P)

    Edit: If you could use the reverse side of just one card there would be 53 times more possible arrangements. Unfortunately it is sort of non-linear (i.e. you can't just say "104 P 52 = x") because when >2 cards are side by side upside down they are treated as a combination and not a permutation... I think. It's been almost two years since I did any of that stuff now.

    Okay, someone suggested (2^52)(52!) when I asked and it seems right (or close at least) to me. That's 4.504 x 10^15 times more permutations than the original amount... Certainly more than double! (Using backs of cards: 3.27 x 10^83 as opposed to 8.066 x 10^67)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭dango




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭IrishGrimReaper


    Also, if you square 3x42/2.3 and add 40 you get potato.


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