Trading in 08 Corolla for new Skoda Rapid

ryaner1979

Looking to trade in an 08 Corolla with low mileage for a new Skoda Rapid base model. The garage is looking €9500 along with my car which values my Corlolla at around €8k. Is this a good deal and has anyone got any views on the new Skoda Rapid?

bazz26

The only way to know if it is a good deal or not is to go to another Skoda dealer and see what they want for the same car. Remember the important figure is how much they want with your old car, not how much they are giving you for your old car.

The Rapid itself shares most parts with the VW Polo model which has been around now for almost 3 years now so it should be a safe enough bet at this stage.

Pottler

Yer man in the Indo on saturday last reviewed the Rapid and didn't have much good to say, despite him being a Skoda fanboy. Eddie Cunningham I think he is.

ryaner1979

bazz26 wrote: »

The only way to know if it is a good deal or not is to go to another Skoda dealer and see what they want for the same car. Remember the important figure is how much they want with your old car, not how much they are giving you for your old car.

The Rapid itself shares most parts with the VW Polo model which has been around now for almost 3 years now so it should be a safe enough bet at this stage.

Another Skoda dealer wanted over 10k for the same car.

Pottler wrote: »

Yer man in the Indo on saturday last reviewed the Rapid and didn't have much good to say, despite him being a Skoda fanboy. Eddie Cunningham I think he is.

Just read the review. Basic enough car and feels pretty bumpy is the main criticism. Wonder if anyone here has one?

colm_mcm

Is it missing any spec that a corolla has.

Supergurrier

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is it missing any spec that a corolla has.

Windy windows and floor mats, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Personally OP if i was going for a safe car i would be all over a Kia Cee'd instead of a Skoda Rapid, it's based on a supermini chassis and is fugly

ryaner1979

colm_mcm wrote: »

Is it missing any spec that a corolla has.

1.2 engine in the Skoda v 1.4 in the Corolla. Better mpg in the Skoda plus they are giving a years worth of 99 cent petrol with this car. My knowledge of cars is poor enough which is why im asking here. Cheaper tax in the Skoda too. €220 a year v €360 in the Corolla. Both are saloons but the Skoda has a hatch style boot which is huge. Car will only be doing 10k max a year in mileage

bazz26

The few used ones on carzone look pretty bare. Black exterior door handles and mirrors, plastic wheel trim. Entry model has manually adjustabe door mirrors. I guess it's built down to a budget.

colm_mcm

Spec list for the rapid here

http://www.skoda.ie/brochures/Documents/prices/Rapid-PriceList.pdf

Electric mirrors is about the only thing missing. 14 inch wheels are so small

Weedy Single tone horn on the base model.

Still. can't argue with the price

Pottler

Given the choice, personally I'd keep the Corolla and pass on the Rapid, retrograde steps and all that..

Leonard Hofstadter

Pottler wrote: »

Given the choice, personally I'd keep the Corolla and pass on the Rapid, retrograde steps and all that..

Hmmm, I'd probably agree, the entry level models are absolutely rotten, a weedy little 75 bhp 1.2 engine, no electric mirrors, shiny black plastic mirrors and door handles, no a/c, no nothing at all as standard. To get even a half decent one, you'd be spending the best part of €20k (a 1.2 TSI 105 Ambition). The cheapest one is cheap for a reason. It will probably fly out the door in Ireland because it's so bad though:D:D.

spank_inferno

Isn't that basic 1.2 petrol an old MPI unit?
Which if I recal was a rough old thing.

I assume if at all possible one of the 'TSI' engines would be preferable?

I think for what is essentialy a Polo they look well.
But I'm unsure if its worth moving away from a corolla for.

larchill

Pottler wrote: »

Yer man in the Indo on saturday last reviewed the Rapid and didn't have much good to say, despite him being a Skoda fanboy. Eddie Cunningham I think he is.

Eddie Cunningham it was indeed! He hadn't much to say about this one. He had it on test & it fell down on handling & sure footedness on the road. Not a patch on the Octavia in this dept. Here's the article ...

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/it-may-be-cheap-but-it-just-doesnt-make-me-cheerful-3290040.html

The corolla is almost certainly a superior car!

650Ginge

I would also stick with the corolla, much better car in every respect.

As for the cheaper tax and mpg. Work out how far the €9.5k will last offset against that. 20 years plus to get your money back madness for a lesser car.

kupus

larchill wrote: »

Eddie Cunningham it was indeed! He hadn't much to say about this one. He had it on test & it fell down on handling & sure footedness on the road. Not a patch on the Octavia in this dept. Here's the article ...
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/motoring/it-may-be-cheap-but-it-just-doesnt-make-me-cheerful-3290040.html

The corolla is almost certainly a superior car!

I don't care what anyone says, the Skoda Octavia (especially the estate) is one of the outstanding cars on the road.

^^where have I seen this quote before....Eddie must have a few handles in this forum!

Pottler

Eddie's not exactly the harshest critic going either, so if he damns it with faint praise, you can be sure it's pants.

MuppetCheck

It's about 6k less than the equivalent corolla. It's not in the same class. What do people expect? Although the corolla isn't anything noteworthy either.

I'm surprised at an irish journalist not praising a car though. The junket must have been crap.

tommyombomb

Saloon or hatch. If its the hatchback I would be wanting more. The are the ones the market want. My brother was looking for one and couldn't pick up a clean one.

yourpics

Stick with Toyota, stay well clear of Skoda

Foxhole Norman

yourpics wrote: »

Stick with Toyota, stay well clear of Skoda

So we should stay clear of VW, Seat and Audi too?

OP, I'd keep the Toyota, do your homework and do the numbers, keeping the Corolla is a much better choice.

Bpmull

yourpics wrote: »

Stick with Toyota, stay well clear of Skoda

What is wrong with skoda? Have you ever actually owned one ? From my experience with them they are good well built cars at a good price. Very reliable we have a 2011 Octavia with over 30k km on it it's a year old and never caused us any problems what so ever. We have a 2005 Octavia 1.9tdi which doesn't cause trouble either. Granted the rapid is a basic spec that's about the only problem with it. The elegance spec is nice have it in the 2011 Octavia and has everything on it I could possibly think of. So I speak from experience when I say skodas are a good car brand. If you actually have any proof to back up the "stay well clear of skoda" I would like to hear it.

yourpics

Bpmull wrote: »

What is wrong with skoda? Have you ever actually owned one ? From my experience with them they are good well built cars at a good price. Very reliable we have a 2011 Octavia with over 30k km on it it's a year old and never caused us any problems what so ever. We have a 2005 Octavia 1.9tdi which doesn't cause trouble either. Granted the rapid is a basic spec that's about the only problem with it. The elegance spec is nice have it in the 2011 Octavia and has everything on it I could possibly think of. So I speak from experience when I say skodas are a good car brand. If you actually have any proof to back up the "stay well clear of skoda" I would like to hear it.

I have owned a Skoda - drank diesel at 30 mpg, all sorts of electrical problems, flywheel, turbo, oil pump, water ingress, no help from Skoda on it at all. And I'm not the only one with these issues. I thought they were a good car when I bought one, wouldnt have one again

Bpmull

yourpics wrote: »

I have owned a Skoda - drank diesel at 30 mpg, all sorts of electrical problems, flywheel, turbo, oil pump, water ingress, no help from Skoda on it at all. And I'm not the only one with these issues

30 mpg that's shocking there is something seriously wrong there. Our 2005 does 56mpg and the 2011 does 54mpg every time and that's calculating it properly. Neither of my parents are slow drivers so its not like either cars are driven easy. As for electrical problems I've never heard of them. Was it an octavia or superb or fabia you had and how old was it what year.

yourpics

Bpmull wrote: »

30 mpg that's shocking there is something seriously wrong there. Our 2005 does 56mpg and the 2011 does 54mpg every time and that's calculating it properly. Neither of my parents are slow drivers so its not like either cars are driven easy. As for electrical problems I've never heard of them. Was it an octavia or superb or fabia you had and how old was it what year.

Yeah leaving aside the bad mpg, all the other faults are well known, it was a first generation Superb.

Example:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/170617-lots-of-electrical-problems/

Bpmull

yourpics wrote: »

Yeah leaving aside the bad mpg, all the other faults are well known, it was a first generation Superb.

Tbh the first generation superb was not the best car the octavia is a lot better. But all the new skoda range are reliable. I can understand you have had hassle with yours. But the op is buying a new skoda not a first gen superb. The newer skodas seem to be very good and reliable even the superb. I can only go by our experience with skoda only trying to give the op a bit of balance I'm not trying to say your wrong I'm just saying the brand has changed a lot in recent years.

yourpics

Bpmull wrote: »

Tbh the first generation superb was not the best car the octavia is a lot better. But all the new skoda range are reliable. I can understand you have had hassle with yours. But the op is buying a new skoda not a first gen superb. The newer skodas seem to be very good and reliable even the superb. I can only go by our experience with skoda only trying to give the op a bit of balance I'm not trying to say your wrong I'm just saying the brand has changed a lot in recent years.

Thats fair enough but the car was 08 which I would consider as fairly new!
What really annoyed me was the lack of back-up from Skoda and huge bills for diagnostics!

Bpmull

yourpics wrote: »

Thats fair enough but the car was 08 which I would consider as fairly new!
What really annoyed me was the lack of back-up from Skoda and huge bills for diagnostics!

That is very new I'd have to wonder what the current superb is like but it seems to be a better car. It is a real pity that skoda didn't help you out. But they seem to be a bit better in terms of customer service now. Still you didn't deserve that hastle with a 2008 car. We have had no hassle with our 2011 that's a I can really say so they don't seem to have electronic faults anymore.

yourpics

Bpmull wrote: »

That is very new I'd have to wonder what the current superb is like but it seems to be a better car. It is a real pity that skoda didn't help you out. But they seem to be a bit better in terms of customer service now. Still you didn't deserve that hastle with a 2008 car. We have had no hassle with our 2011 that's a I can really say so they don't seem to have electronic faults anymore.

Yeah there are enough Skoda's on the road to give the impression that, overall, on balance they are a good motor.
But if I had my choice I'd go with Toyota

Bpmull

yourpics wrote: »

Yeah there are enough Skoda's on the road to give the impression that, overall, on balance they are a good motor.
But if I had my choice I'd go with Toyota

I suppose maybe the op just wants a change or a new car and the rapid is not big money although the rapid is a basic spec compared to the octavia or superb.

ryaner1979

Thanks for all the advice but have decided to stick with the corolla for now

road_high

ryaner1979 wrote: »

Thanks for all the advice but have decided to stick with the corolla for now

Good choice. I like others here think it would be a downgrade to go from a Corrolla to a Rapid. An Octavia yes, but the Rapid seems more like a bit of a bargain basement job, bit like the Octavia when it was launched first. Some of them were very basic.
Corrolla is a decent sized car with good spec. Wouldn't drive one myself but have a healthy respect for them.

Gael23

Nothing wrong with skoda but the Rapid is disappointing. Any reviews I've read say its a car to get you from A to B and doesn't offer much more than that. If you really want to change there are plenty of other good buys out there for similar money

colm_mcm

ryanf1 wrote: »

there are plenty of other good buys out there for similar money

Any examples?