Malaga Airport Security

briman1983

Was on holidays in the south of Spain and got some food on out outbound flight from Malaga Airport,

What I found really strange that instead of getting blunt knives we we're given full proper steel knives with our meal and glass glassware, this was after we passed security and has no other security to pass before boarding our plane.

It it just me or is this a bit crazy with all the security measures in this day and age?

Davidth88

OP , no more crazy than the fact you can buy glass bottles that make perfect weapons after security ...... but to ban that would lose to much money for people


TBH , your average dining knife is about as dangerous as a rolled up newspaper ( millwall brick ).

jmayo

Airport security is often quiet mind boggling, but god forbid anyone would question it at the airport.

Remember when the scare happened with the liquid bomber.
There was a huge security crackdown.
There were stories appearing on the likes of pprune of instances where the pilots had their food and drink confiscated as they went through security checks.
One captain, after complaining about the removal of his twix ??, was told the drinks were confiscated because it could be possible bomb making ingredient.
Of course security did not seem to grasp that the pilot could have just crashed the plane rather than bother with concocting a bomb.

tricky D

Security theater

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_theater

vicwatson

A stilletto heel can also be quite a dangerous weapon

Tow

This has all gone when flying outside Europe and the US. Metal knives and forks as standard, no problem with liquids etc. Even when flying with Philippines Airlines they no longer bat an eye lid. AKAIK, PAL is on the only airline to have had a liquid binary bomb explode on one of their planes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434

kub

Tow wrote: »

This has all gone when flying outside Europe and the US. Metal knives and forks as standard, no problem with liquids etc. Even when flying with Philippines Airlines they no longer bat an eye lid. AKAIK, PAL is on the only airline to have had a liquid binary bomb explode on one of their planes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434[/QUOTE]

The bottom line is they do not suffer from the same paranoia as us on this side of the world.

afatbollix

On BA flights in Club Europe you get metal Knives and forks.. Maybe the trust the first class people more?

Fratton Fred

afatbollix wrote: »

On BA flights in Club Europe you get metal Knives and forks.. Maybe the trust the first class people more?

Which is madness.

If I was going to blow myself and some mad Mullah somewhere was paying the bills, I'd make sure my last hours were in first class luxury:D

afatbollix

Ya Our Captain came out for about 45 minutes on the way back from Lisbon on a BA flight last week.. The Cabin Crew and him were having a great laugh.


All this security is a load of bollix if they want to blow some thing up they will do it...

jmayo

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Which is madness.

If I was going to blow myself and some mad Mullah somewhere was paying the bills, I'd make sure my last hours were in first class luxury:D

Didn't you hear al-Qaeda have had cutbacks and all their guys now have to fly pleb class.

Stinicker

As they locked flight-deck (cockpit) doors now no matter weapons they have they can't hijack the plane.

Fratton Fred

jmayo wrote: »

Didn't you hear al-Qaeda have had cutbacks and all their guys now have to fly pleb class.

Damn those Yankees and their war on terror

Cork boy 55

afatbollix wrote: »

On BA flights in Club Europe you get metal Knives and forks.. Maybe the trust the first class people more?

On 9-11 the Saracen's flew in first class.

Reoil

briman1983 wrote: »

Was on holidays in the south of Spain and got some food on out outbound flight from Malaga Airport,

What I found really strange that instead of getting blunt knives we we're given full proper steel knives with our meal and glass glassware, this was after we passed security and has no other security to pass before boarding our plane.

It it just me or is this a bit crazy with all the security measures in this day and age?

The cockpit doors are locked, so bringing a knife onto an airplane is the same as bringing a knife onto a train...

Greenmachine

Never had a passport checked in Malaga. They lifted it up unopened on a couple of occasions and that was leaving spain.

Stovepipe

with regard to locked cockpit doors, all a terrorist has to do is grab a cabin crew member and threaten to kill her until the captain opens the door (which has happened) or else wait until one of the pilots comes out for a piss.Airport security is aggravating to ordinary people at best. When your potential enemy regards death as a handy outcome, it's rather difficult to defend against.

regards
Stovepipe

Del2005

Stinicker wrote: »

As they locked flight-deck (cockpit) doors now no matter weapons they have they can't hijack the plane.

Reoil wrote: »

The cockpit doors are locked, so bringing a knife onto an airplane is the same as bringing a knife onto a train...

These days if someone stands up with a knife, or most weapons, the passengers will have ago. It's not like the old days where people where told to obey terrorists as they usually only wanted the plane. Now people are worried about being killed so will take more risks.

Do you honestly think people where afraid of a few people armed with these?



It was the airline/government policy that lead to 911 not the weapons used.

roundymac

Del2005 wrote: »

These days if someone stands up with a knife, or most weapons, the passengers will have ago. It's not like the old days where people where told to obey terrorists as they usually only wanted the plane. Now people are worried about being killed so will take more risks.

Do you honestly think people where afraid of a few people armed with these?



It was the airline/government policy that lead to 911 not the weapons used.

They also used mace to subdue the passengers.

APM

Stovepipe wrote: »

with regard to locked cockpit doors, all a terrorist has to do is grab a cabin crew member and threaten to kill her until the captain opens the door (which has happened) or else wait until one of the pilots comes out for a piss.Airport security is aggravating to ordinary people at best. When your potential enemy regards death as a handy outcome, it's rather difficult to defend against.

regards
Stovepipe

Pilots don't just come out to use the toilet nowadays. In the airline I work for, there is a procedure, and at one stage during that procedure a password will be given so that we know it is all clear for us to leave the flight deck.

We never just open the door and walk out un-announced

Bearcat

Stovepipe wrote: »

with regard to locked cockpit doors, all a terrorist has to do is grab a cabin crew member and threaten to kill her until the captain opens the door (which has happened) or else wait until one of the pilots comes out for a piss.

regards
Stovepipe

Not as simple as you openly state for all and sundry to chew on.

I wouldn't bank on pilots seeing a ccm threatened to open the door in flight.....so then everyone gets killed.?

Threaten away or worse on my watch.....if there's trouble outside....it stays outside and I'm yankin and banking towards the nearest 7000ft of Tarmac.

afatbollix

APM wrote: »

Pilots don't just come out to use the toilet nowadays. In the airline I work for, there is a procedure, and at one stage during that procedure a password will be given so that we know it is all clear for us to leave the flight deck.

We never just open the door and walk out un-announced

I was talking about a BA flight I took above I flew Club Europe ( IE at the front of the plane) and the pilot came out and had a long old chat with the cabin crew. Must of been out of the cockpit for 30 to 45 minutes. It seemed more like a chat than getting some thing to eat.

Its all about underwear bombs and shoe bombs these days and to be honest Id wouldn't mind attacking the person even if it meant sacrificing myself ala flight 93. I would think most people think like that these days?

Cork boy 55

afatbollix wrote: »

I was talking about a BA flight I took above I flew Club Europe ( IE at the front of the plane) and the pilot came out and had a long old chat with the cabin crew. Must of been out of the cockpit for 30 to 45 minutes. It seemed more like a chat than getting some thing to eat.

Its all about underwear bombs and shoe bombs these days and to be honest Id wouldn't mind attacking the person even if it meant sacrificing myself ala flight 93. I would think most people think like that these days?

SAM's could be the next thing, The regime in Syria is starting to crumble and lose a lot of ground in last few weeks plenty of reports on net
with of videos of Syria rebels with SAM missiles.
Not to mention Libya, Gaddafi had 10 of thousands of the yokes.
rake of em gone missing

http://brown-moses.blogspot.ie/2012/11/videos-show-complete-complete-sa-7.html

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