How to spare silage

jerdee

Need to drag out bales was thinking of feeding some ration to dry suckler cows as supplementary feed ,any ideas on ration straw not around at the moment

Thinking beet pulp nuts or hulls ?????

bob charles

are you sure you are not giving them too much silage to begin with, could you pull down body condition a notch, not idea, situation dictates.

reilig

jerdee wrote: »

Need to drag out bales was thinking of feeding some ration to dry suckler cows as supplementary feed ,any ideas on ration straw not around at the moment

Thinking beet pulp nuts or hulls ?????

Fodder stretcher from your local mill. Most of them are doing something at the moment. €265 to €290 per ton. Its much cheaper than buying silage at €25 per bale.

What price is beet pulp or hulld?

bogman_bass

jerdee wrote: »

Need to drag out bales was thinking of feeding some ration to dry suckler cows as supplementary feed ,any ideas on ration straw not around at the moment

Thinking beet pulp nuts or hulls ?????

beet pulp isnt suitable for dry cows due to its high calcium content

jerdee

Yes could drop a size in cows but I think that will happen anyway as cutting them back a little .

Was going to ask local millers what simple mix reasonable priced .

Silage is not worth more than 25 as at least ration should be more reliable quality wise

Dozer1

Think your in Limerick jerdee, I was in O' Connells a few weeks back and they had one of those filler rations for sale, don't remember the price but worth a call.

I sold cattle that I wasn't capable of feeding for the winter and the rest are just being sustained with average silage and some beef nuts for those that are on the thin side

best of luck though as everyone is in the same boat I'd say

jerdee

yes might give them a buzz although it mainly roches;)

every body in same boat but i have a neighbour who makes his suckler cows polish the concrete every year which i don t like.

jerdee

bogman_bass wrote: »

beet pulp isnt suitable for dry cows due to its high calcium content

i taught it would expand in side them filling them up......o well

mf240

jerdee wrote: »

yes might give them a buzz although it mainly roches;)

every body in same boat but i have a neighbour who makes his suckler cows polish the concrete every year which i don t like.

If your not going to restrict the silage you will save very little of it by giving the cows meal.

jerdee

I am restricting the silage at the moment hence the questions just wondering what others are doing to get through as I was talking to a few lads and they have enough till after santa but will be short .

bob charles

could you get the kids to ask Santy for Silage for the cows?

Farmer Pudsey

Soya hulls would be a good option as you can feed at high rates without virtually anything else except minerals. Another option is molasses ( if in Limerick you are near the importer in Foynes. There is a few versions but for cows the Nutri-Thrive or HiPro 50 should be suitable. They sell in IBC's these would be better than any Lucky bags you buy from a co-op or merchant. They also have the advantage that they make the silage more paletable. I think that they sell in the region of 200/ton ex-port.

Bodacious

bogman_bass wrote: »

beet pulp isnt suitable for dry cows due to its high calcium content

ive a few bulling heifers and they are to go out on rough dry grazing i was going to give them a bit beet pulp and barley rather than drawing silage to them ... would the pulp be a bad idea for one dry cow and heifers?

Black Smoke

Bodacious wrote: »

ive a few bulling heifers and they are to go out on rough dry grazing i was going to give them a bit beet pulp and barley rather than drawing silage to them ... would the pulp be a bad idea for one dry cow and heifers?

Got ton of 16% beef ration yesterday for €290. Southern Millers.
Would that make sense cost wise compared to pulp and barley?
I'm feeding a bit of that to cows and few in calf heifers so I can restrict silage. Calving starts February so I will stop meals early December. Not great economics feeding meal to suckler cows, but needs must this year.

razor8

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Soya hulls would be a good option as you can feed at high rates without virtually anything else except minerals. Another option is molasses ( if in Limerick you are near the importer in Foynes. There is a few versions but for cows the Nutri-Thrive or HiPro 50 should be suitable. They sell in IBC's these would be better than any Lucky bags you buy from a co-op or merchant. They also have the advantage that they make the silage more paletable. I think that they sell in the region of 200/ton ex-port.

where can you get soya hulls and how much are they?

Farmer Pudsey

razor8 wrote: »

where can you get soya hulls and how much are they?

Soya hulls usually sell at the same price as rolled barley in bulk. The advantage is that you can feed with very little extra fibre. This would be an advantage where you have no silage.It should cost arround 290/ton delivered if getting 3+ ton can also be got in half ton bags. If you have silage molasses is the cheapest at present and has the advantage of incresing palatibility of silage but beware if ragworth in silage.

Molassess can be got with protein added usually they use whey in the lower protein versions 10-21% protein. The most suitable is one called Molyprem which has an ME of over 11 and a protein of 14.5% on a Dry matter basis. It is 70% dry matter. If you convert it to the equivlent of a ration at 85%DM it is costing about 250/ton with the davantage that it would be better than a lot of bag rations. They is also other products that come in at over 20% protein.

razor8

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Soya hulls usually sell at the same price as rolled barley in bulk. The advantage is that you can feed with very little extra fibre. This would be an advantage where you have no silage.It should cost arround 290/ton delivered if getting 3+ ton can also be got in half ton bags. If you have silage molasses is the cheapest at present and has the advantage of incresing palatibility of silage but beware if ragworth in silage.

Molassess can be got with protein added usually they use whey in the lower protein versions 10-21% protein. The most suitable is one called Molyprem which has an ME of over 11 and a protein of 14.5% on a Dry matter basis. It is 70% dry matter. If you convert it to the equivlent of a ration at 85%DM it is costing about 250/ton with the davantage that it would be better than a lot of bag rations. They is also other products that come in at over 20% protein.

Thats very informative farmer P, thanks very much

ive heard of sheep farmers feeding soya hulls only (no silage/hay) to ewes prelambing with very good results. I have yet to speak to anyone directly

Have you any idea how much you would have to feed per sheep per day to twin bearing ewes

Has anyone on here fed soya hulls to ewes??