NCT Question

mickey mac

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4054075 http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4065403


Both these cars are 2003 and both were NCT'ed in October 2012, but one has a cert till Jan 14 and the other to Jan 15.

Can someone explain how this can happen?

Thanks.

Yawns

New rule that cars over 10 years only get a 1 year cert.

EDIT:
Bleh just looked at dates. They were done within days of each other. Dunno how 1 got a 2 year nct tbh. Looks like the guy with the 2 year cert got lucky. Should have just got a 1 year cert. It's all automated afaik so dunno how.

Also removed most of original post as re-reading it doesn't make much sense.

mickey mac

The cars were tested within 3 days of each other, 17th and 14th of Oct.12

Yawns

Ya I saw that so edited. It's weird. They both should have gotten a 1 year cert. Some mix up that gave 1 guy a 2 year cert. Afaik it's all done via computer. Once a car passes, the tester prints a page without imputing much if anything at all. The next due date is already assigned.

corktina

2003 car is only 9 yrs old innit? 2 year cert then

CiniO

corktina wrote: »

2003 car is only 9 yrs old innit? 2 year cert then

No it isn't.
NCTs which were done on those cars are 10th years first registration anniversary NCTs, so therefore cert should be for one year.

It must be a mistake of NCT centre issuing the discs, or otherwise fake disc.

mickey mac

CiniO wrote: »

It must be a mistake of NCT centre issuing the discs, or otherwise fake disc.

I'm not suggesting that it's a fake or a mistake, I thought maybe there may some anomalie in the NCT system.

RustyNut

Possibly the one with one year cert was fires reged on 01/01 and other on 30/12 same year. Just a guess.

Yawns

corktina wrote: »

2003 car is only 9 yrs old innit? 2 year cert then

Nope, as said already both cars are first registered in January so it would been 10th year.

Possibly the one with one year cert was fires reged on 01/01 and other on 30/12 same year. Just a guess.

Noe both regged in middle of January. The one with the 2 year cert is first regged on 9th January with the other first regged on 13th. Generally you look at the NCT valid til / due date and it's the very next day is when the car was first registered.

CiniO

Yawns wrote: »

Nope, as said already both cars are first registered in January so it would been 10th year.



Noe both regged in middle of January. The one with the 2 year cert is first regged on 9th January with the other first regged on 13th. Generally you look at the NCT valid til / due date and it's the very next day is when the car was first registered.

Exactly.
If someone still have doubts, you can go to NCTS website and try to book any of those cars for NCT providing first registration date of 09/01/2003 for Skoda, and 13/01/2003 for Hyundai.

Obviously NCT can't be booked at this stage, because none of those cars are due inspection, but if they were due, anyone could log in and book, reschedule or cancel NCT appointment.

That's why displaying NCT discs on ads in not a great idea.

CiniO

mickey mac wrote: »

I'm not suggesting that it's a fake or a mistake, I thought maybe there may some anomalie in the NCT system.

By mistake I meant something like incorrectly working computer system at NCT center, or maybe just genuine NCT tester mistake.
I don't know how their system works.

RustyNut

Doh bad guess

Yawns

CiniO wrote: »

That's why displaying NCT discs on ads in not a great idea.

But a lot of people wouldn't be showing close up images of an NCT disc in the ads if it was out of date or close to expiry. It's shown close up in pics because people want to show off the fact that they have a long period to go til the next NCT.

CiniO

Yawns wrote: »

But a lot of people wouldn't be showing close up images of an NCT disc in the ads if it was out of date or close to expiry. It's shown close up in pics because people want to show off the fact that they have a long period to go til the next NCT.

I still wouldn't display it for public, the same way as I don't display my passwords or pin numbers
Info from NCT disc gives access to my private account on NCT website, so why would anyone want to display it to public.

Avns1s

CiniO wrote: »

I still wouldn't display it for public, the same way as I don't display my passwords or pin numbers
Info from NCT disc gives access to my private account on NCT website, so why would anyone want to display it to public.

Prob best to take it off your windscreen too then!!

CiniO

Avns1s wrote: »

Prob best to take it off your windscreen too then!!

I was trying that already.

Yawns

CiniO wrote: »

I was trying that already.

Not much help but if you really want to cut down on it a tiny bit, you could attach the disc display holder upside down on the windscreen visor. That way it's out of the way facing inside the car and you can simply put it down for a guard to read at a checkpoint. He will most likely moan and tell you you need it to be in a certain spot by law but you really don't, it just has to be displayed. It however means you'd need to flip it down and display it whilst parked in public.

But privately you won't need to have it on display.

CiniO

Yawns wrote: »

Not much help but if you really want to cut down on it a tiny bit, you could attach the disc display holder upside down on the windscreen visor. That way it's out of the way facing inside the car and you can simply put it down for a guard to read at a checkpoint. He will most likely moan and tell you you need it to be in a certain spot by law but you really don't, it just has to be displayed. It however means you'd need to flip it down and display it whilst parked in public.

But privately you won't need to have it on display.

Hahaha
Great idea, but I was first:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056585261

Yawns

It was indeed here I read it, didn't realise it was yourself.

corktina

I assume the one with the two years was imported and thus due a NCT in 2012 =rather than 2013 in which case it would be 9 years old when due the NCT and thus get two years.

mickey mac

corktina wrote: »

I assume the one with the two years was imported and thus due a NCT in 2012 =rather than 2013 in which case it would be 9 years old when due the NCT and thus get two years.

Both cars have 3 digit numbers in their regs, which usually means the car wasn't imported.

CiniO

corktina wrote: »

I assume the one with the two years was imported and thus due a NCT in 2012 =rather than 2013 in which case it would be 9 years old when due the NCT and thus get two years.

If NCT was due in 2012, then no way disc could be valid untill 01/2015.

However it would be possible, that car was f.e. first registered in May 2003 in UK. Then imported to Ireland in January 2011. NCT due in Janurary 2013, and therefore this NCT could be already done with next due date January 2015. (as at the due date 01/2013 car would be only 9 years and 9 months so less than 10).

But in this particular case of this skoda it isn't the case.
Car wasn't imported.

HAMMERCURRENT

Maybe the guy with the Skoda (best car ever built, FACT!) is just lucky, after all he was expecting 1 baby and gets 2 babies, similarly he was expecting 1 years NCT but got 2.


"MY WIFE IS 21 WEEKS PREGNENT TODAY AND WE JUST FOUND OUT 2 DAYS AGO THAT WE ARE EXPECTING TWINS"

mickey mac

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4135641


Here's another example of 1 year's test. The reason I asked the question is I'm interested in buying a 2003 car, and the NCT expires on January 7th 2013, the car will be tested before this, so I will know within the next few weeks will it get a 1 or 2 year NCT. In my opinion it should be 1 year, but the Skoda ad got me thinking.

Yawns

It should get 1 year as you think but please do let us know either way. It would be interesting to see if a 2 year cert gets issued.

CiniO

mickey mac wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4135641


Here's another example of 1 year's test. The reason I asked the question is I'm interested in buying a 2003 car, and the NCT expires on January 7th 2013, the car will be tested before this, so I will know within the next few weeks will it get a 1 or 2 year NCT. In my opinion it should be 1 year, but the Skoda ad got me thinking.

It will get one year test.
Skoda must be a mistake.

corktina

mickey mac wrote: »

Both cars have 3 digit numbers in their regs, which usually means the car wasn't imported.

imported some time ago maybe, when nearly new and thus first registered HERE in other than 2003?

mickey mac

corktina wrote: »

imported some time ago maybe, when nearly new and thus first registered HERE in other than 2003?

Thanks for the input, but I don't understand the point you are making.

buzzing147

Hi

My cars due nct in april 2013, its a 2003 car. I was wondering if i booked the car in early, would i get a 2 year cert?

Thanks

Stheno

buzzing147 wrote: »

Hi

My cars due nct in april 2013, its a 2003 car. I was wondering if i booked the car in early, would i get a 2 year cert?

Thanks

No. You'll get a cert for April 2014 if you do it ninety days in advance of the 2013 expiry date

buzzing147

Stheno wrote: »

No. You'll get a cert for April 2014 if you do it ninety days in advance of the 2013 expiry date

Cheers was thinking that.

Its all a money racket if you ask me.

Kenny Logins

buzzing147 wrote: »

Its all a money racket if you ask me.

It's not..

Stheno

buzzing147 wrote: »

Cheers was thinking that.

Its all a money racket if you ask me.

Eh, your car is 10 years old on the date of it's next NCT.

Cars ten years and older have to be tested every year.

buzzing147

Kenny Logins wrote: »

It's not..

Why did they change it from 2 years down to 1 year? The test is thorough enough for the cars to be safe on the roads for 2 years. Money is the reason. Simple.

CiniO

buzzing147 wrote: »

Why did they change it from 2 years down to 1 year? The test is thorough enough for the cars to be safe on the roads for 2 years. Money is the reason. Simple.

No test is through enough to make sure car will be safe enough the next day, not mentioning 2 years.
Car deteriorate pretty quickly.
When I see what kind of bangers some people drive, even though they still have NCT, I'm truly for annual testing even of newer vehicles.
NCT costs 55 euro.
It's really one of the lowest costs related to motoring.

djimi

buzzing147 wrote: »

Why did they change it from 2 years down to 1 year? The test is thorough enough for the cars to be safe on the roads for 2 years. Money is the reason. Simple.

A lot can change in a 10+ year old car in two years; after the first year the valid NCT doesnt really mean a whole lot in terms of how safe/roadworthy the car is.

buzzing147

I say bring back the days when there were aulde 1981 opel kadetts etc flying around the roads with woeful engines and bald tyres...people are too posh nowadays, these big cars and most of them owned by the bank

Kenny Logins

buzzing147 wrote: »

Why did they change it from 2 years down to 1 year? The test is thorough enough for the cars to be safe on the roads for 2 years. Money is the reason. Simple.

...because the car is older?

Do you really believe if you pass the NCT your car is 'grand' for the next two years?

CiniO

Kenny Logins wrote: »

...because the car is older?

Do you really believe if you pass the NCT your car is 'grand' for the next two years?

I believe many people do believe that

buzzing147

Kenny Logins wrote: »

...because the car is older?

Do you really believe if you pass the NCT your car is 'grand' for the next two years?

Havnt had to put a part in my car since got it 3 years ago, its 100%. id take a 4 year cert if they offered

CiniO

buzzing147 wrote: »

Havnt had to put a part in my car since got it 3 years ago, its 100%. id take a 4 year cert if they offered

What about oil and oil filter? Did you not need to put new ones as well?

Kenny Logins

buzzing147 wrote: »

Havnt had to put a part in my car since got it 3 years ago, its 100%. id take a 4 year cert if they offered

Are you confident in that? How, do you do periodic checks yourself?

buzzing147

yes oil filter brake discs and pads all changed when needed, what i mean is, i dont see any reason why they cancelled the 2 year disc and reduced it to 1 year, apart from money that is, because the celtic tiger didnt show up.

Kenny Logins

buzzing147 wrote: »

yes oil filter brake discs and pads all changed when needed, what i mean is, i dont see any reason why they cancelled the 2 year disc and reduced it to 1 year, apart from money that is, because the celtic tiger didnt show up.

You honestly can't see that it's because older cars are more prone to corrosion and electrical faults etc.?

djimi

buzzing147 wrote: »

yes oil filter brake discs and pads all changed when needed, what i mean is, i dont see any reason why they cancelled the 2 year disc and reduced it to 1 year, apart from money that is, because the celtic tiger didnt show up.

Ive seen 10-15 year old cars that are barely roadworthy 2 months after the NCT, let alone 2 years. A year is more than long enough to declare a car of that age to be roadworthy.

€50 and a couple of hours inconvenience for the owner is a more than fair price to pay if it keeps the kind of heaps of junk off the roads that we used to see pre-NCT.

mullingar

Just to throw a spanner in the works here and to use a link that was first highlighted on this forum to see if a car has a valid NCT:

http://www.carsireland.ie/add.php

The Skoda 03WW679 has no expiry date detailed for its NCT
The Hyundai 03KK621 has an expiry date Jan 14.

I know the database is not 100% accurate, but every car I tried in that link has proved correct that if there is no expiry date detailed on that website, there is no current valid NCT on it, so make 100% sure the cert is not a forgery as there are too many of them out there.

Be careful out there folks!

mickey mac

mickey mac wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4135641


Here's another example of 1 year's test. The reason I asked the question is I'm interested in buying a 2003 car, and the NCT expires on January 7th 2013, the car will be tested before this, so I will know within the next few weeks will it get a 1 or 2 year NCT. In my opinion it should be 1 year, but the Skoda ad got me thinking.

Car tested and passed today, till Jan 14 (as expected) beginning to think there's something dodgy with the Skoda.