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Waterford Airport Destination poll

  • 10-11-2012 4:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    Since the news that the Airport is in disscusions with companies about Routes starting back at Waterford again we want to help them make make their choices of routes that will have the demand and be profitable to the airline aswell as being competitively priced.

    Me or whoever else will send this to them by email or Facebook.

    We just want to help them out to increase chances of opening new routes and saving the airports future.

    I want everyone possible to send this to their friends, family to vote on this to get some votes.

    Start voting! :)

    Which Destination do you want to go to? 320 votes

    London Luton
    0% 0 votes
    London Gatwick
    14% 45 votes
    London Stansted
    18% 59 votes
    London Southend
    8% 28 votes
    Edinburgh
    5% 19 votes
    Bristol
    15% 49 votes
    Manchester
    2% 7 votes
    Glasgow
    16% 53 votes
    Liverpool
    3% 12 votes
    Newcastle
    9% 31 votes
    Cardiff
    2% 9 votes
    Exeter
    2% 8 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Interesting results so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭.Henry Sellers.


    Voted Gatwick,Manchester and Edinburgh, covers most bases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    LTN, LGW, MAN & EDI here..

    Would be nice to get the regulars back up for sale and a new EDI & LGW if possible..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    b757 wrote: »
    LTN, LGW, MAN & EDI here..

    Would be nice to get the regulars back up for sale and a new EDI & LGW if possible..

    Good choices, looks like gatwick and Edinburgh are quite popular in this poll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    So far we have, gatwick on 9 with Edinburgh behind on 7 with Manchester catching up on 6.

    Liverpool on 4 with Luton on 3 and then the rest below that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭wendydoll


    I think LGW would be the best investment. Gateway to the US and mainland Europe.

    Where did you hear that they are in discussions with airlines for new routes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    I honestly cant see anything other than London being profitable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Gatwick still in the lead with 22 votes out of the 35 people who so far voted, holding a 62.86% share.

    With Edinburgh behind with 17 votes holding a 49% share.

    Manchester very close to Edinburgh with 16 votes.

    With Liverpool at 11 and Luton at 10, these two are currently against eachother one another getting ahead sometimes of the other.

    Didn't know Liverpool would be popular as the vote is saying. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭Trotter


    Gatwick would suit me great. I used it during the year and it was a good place to land in London for access.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Gatwick still in the lead with 22 votes out of the 35 people who so far voted, holding a 62.86% share.

    With Edinburgh behind with 17 votes holding a 49% share.

    Manchester very close to Edinburgh with 16 votes.

    With Liverpool at 11 and Luton at 10, these two are currently against eachother one another getting ahead sometimes of the other.

    Didn't know Liverpool would be popular as the vote is saying. :)

    I'd guess Liverpool would be popular with Soccer fans maybe? Not exactly a great reason to start flights but it'd be handy for me, lol!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    I'm biased as I work in Gatwick but it really is the best airport in London. Transport links are great, you'll get in and out if the airport quickly and connections from Gatwick open up the whole world.

    Would absolutely love it if a Waterford route opened up, I'd use it all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    I'm biased as I work in Gatwick but it really is the best airport in London. Transport links are great, you'll get in and out if the airport quickly and connections from Gatwick open up the whole world.

    Would absolutely love it if a Waterford route opened up, I'd use it all the time.

    I totally agree, I think I have used gatwick on every travel to London since 2008 possibly, I even used gatwick to fly to Orlando,Florida in 2009.

    The train station is great also with great links down to the coast and into central London and beyond.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    I just think the Airport and Flybe are missing out on an opportunity to create a very profitable route it's clear that a gatwick is in high demand not just from the poll but from messages left on their Facebook page in the past aswell.

    I swear if Flybe set this route up they will not regret it it's so clear it's in their faces but they won't grab this chance to make this one very profitable route.

    It doesent even have to be Flybe, any airline that comes along should do it.

    Also even the Edinburgh route looks profitable, this route has been in demand for YEARS as far as I can remember.

    And don't forget Manchester which has been very popular.

    Three good routes = Profit and keeping Waterford airport afloat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    RobitTV wrote: »
    I just think the Airport and Flybe are missing out on an opportunity to create a very profitable route it's clear that a gatwick is in high demand not just from the poll but from messages left on their Facebook page in the past aswell.

    I swear if Flybe set this route up they will not regret it it's so clear it's in their faces but they won't grab this chance to make this one very profitable route.

    It doesent even have to be Flybe, any airline that comes along should do it.

    Also even the Edinburgh route looks profitable, this route has been in demand for YEARS as far as I can remember.

    And don't forget Manchester which has been very popular.

    Three good routes = Profit and keeping Waterford airport afloat.

    Sure is, Arann had it down to a tee a few years back. After stobart came in, they wanted to do their way which messed things up a bit. Flybe would be looking at up to 100,000 , (if not more) passengers if they brought in a good London route with good times.

    London (LTN/LGW), Manchester and Birmingham (and possibly EDI, if they ever see the demand).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    No Norwich, therefore poll is invalid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    kensutz wrote: »
    No Norwich, therefore poll is invalid.

    You will probably be the only passenger flying there if that ever happens :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭old gregg


    Gatwick would be fine by me too. Mostly I just want somewhere where I can connect easily with a flight to Berlin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    I really just hope they find an airline that will take on new routes Such as Gatwick or Luton and Manchester or Edinburgh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    There is no point in voting for London Gatwick. It will not happen unless an A319/20 can operate from Waterford. LGW are pushing carriers like BE out of LGW as they want 150 seaters + to operate from there. Flybe have closed tehre base and have dropped routes and reduced current ones. They will pull out of LGW before a WAT route will be considered. It costs Flybe over £1000 to land at LGW and then you have ground handling charges, passenger charges, stand charges, departure charge etc. If you want LGW then be prepared to pay a lot to fly there.

    Best to stick with what does well and thats LTN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    There is no point in voting for London Gatwick. It will not happen unless an A319/20 can operate from Waterford. LGW are pushing carriers like BE out of LGW as they want 150 seaters + to operate from there. Flybe have closed tehre base and have dropped routes and reduced current ones. They will pull out of LGW before a WAT route will be considered. It costs Flybe over £1000 to land at LGW and then you have ground handling charges, passenger charges, stand charges, departure charge etc. If you want LGW then be prepared to pay a lot to fly there.

    Best to stick with what does well and thats LTN.

    Sadly you have just hit the nail on the head. :P

    Even though Gatwick would be a Dream come true and its certainly not impossible but its unlikely due to you what you have just explained.

    Flybe also made a half-year loss of £1.3m and they said they will now only expand in europe due to high sky tax's in the UK.

    Flybe said the cost of fuel had increased by 22.7% from £55.9m in 2011 to £68.6m this year, which it had not passed on to its customers Incredibly.

    And Flybe announced a cost-saving plan for 2013, so it looks like all airlines are struggling. :(

    But hey i hope they make the right decisions in opening new routes in Waterford, a bit of research may help them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,362 ✭✭✭Trotter


    RobitTV wrote: »
    But hey i hope they make the right decisions in opening new routes in Waterford, a bit of research may help them.

    I suppose its up to Graham and his team now to show Flybe how Waterford will help increase their profits, not their difficulties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Woah! 75 votes already! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,245 ✭✭✭old gregg


    RobitTV wrote: »
    Woah! 75 votes already! :)

    That's your first flight organised :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    old gregg wrote: »
    That's your first flight organised :)

    Yeah true :)

    Ill wait a while to send this to Them see if we can get a few more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭wellboytoo


    pity Eddie Stobarts/Aer Arran did not do a poll like this and take heed of it they would not be in the state they are now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭tankbarry


    aer arann have no Idea how to run a business examples


    luton with a atr 72 and decent pricing was nearly full most of the time

    Manchester nearly full or at least paying its way with decent pricing

    lorient full nearly every time in the summer why stop it .


    they had birmingham it started to do well on 4 days a week and then they pull it.

    add that an constant breakdown on there aircraft = shambles

    they could not run a piss up in the exchange even with cheap drink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Elbows22


    kensutz wrote: »
    No Norwich, therefore poll is invalid.


    Your invalid!


    Makes no sense i know - im just that bored :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    Look at that tumbleweed blow past....... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    Amsterdam & Malaga would be great!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,096 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    b757 wrote: »
    You will probably be the only passenger flying there if that ever happens :P

    No, I could definitely use the Norwich link too, if Southend goes it will revert to being practically the most difficult place in the UK to get to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Elbows22


    kensutz wrote: »
    Look at that tumbleweed blow past....... :pac:


    Boredom is a killer :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,200 ✭✭✭kensutz


    FlyBe used to do Dublin to Norwich and always full then they pulled it for no reason. The closest I get is East Midlands or Stansted. Luton is a nightmare for public transport because you need to go into London to come back to Norwich.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Nearly 100 votes woop! :D

    But hopefully the Airport and the airlines will take this seriously this should of been done many years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭tankbarry


    what about a paris route


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    But hopefully the Airport and the airlines will take this seriously this should of been done many years ago.


    Let me see..The poll says London, then Manchester (it would say Birmingham third if that was on it) and then whats next most popular..Edinburgh..and what were the airport pushing strongly for earlier in the year having already secured the top three..yes it was Edinburgh. And why did they push for Edinburgh..hmm...i wonder might they have had a poll to find out what destinations were most popular.

    I admire your enthusiasm..i really do..and i share it, but do you seriously think that this is the first time a poll like this has been thought of or done?!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Teebor15 wrote: »
    Let me see..The poll says London, then Manchester (it would say Birmingham third if that was on it) and then whats next most popular..Edinburgh..and what were the airport pushing strongly for earlier in the year having already secured the top three..yes it was Edinburgh. And why did they push for Edinburgh..hmm...i wonder might they have had a poll to find out what destinations were most popular.

    I admire your enthusiasm..i really do..and i share it, but do you seriously think that this is the first time a poll like this has been thought of or done?!!

    If there was a poll done Aer lingus would still be here at the Airport today they refused to listen to passengers demands and then they stupidly set up a route to Southend which according to this very poll is Unpopular, so it's very unlikely a poll was done because this poll is telling us the routes they currently offered were not very popular.

    Southend was a bad idea and then they cut the Luton route which gave them the most profit.

    You would have to be stupid do to what they did and they ended up facing the consequences.

    Also the airport wasn't pushing for Edinburgh, they said you could fly to Birmingham via Flybe from Waterford TO Edinburgh. So you had to go to Birmingham to get to Edinburgh.

    You said they done a poll to find what was most popular, they didn't ever, never ever. If they did a poll they wouldn't of left and made a sustainable profit to stay at Waterford.

    How did they think their current routes were profitable when they weren't popular? This poll also tells the truth.

    Aer arann have no idea how to run a business they offered dead-end routes at over the top prices, they did Not do a poll under any circumstances unless they are so stupid beyond belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    If there was a poll done Aer lingus would still be here at the Airport today they refused to listen to passengers demands and then they stupidly set up a route to Southend which according to this very poll is Unpopular, so it's very unlikely a poll was done because this poll is telling us the routes they currently offered were not very popular.

    Have you not been listening at all in the last week. First of all it was'nt Aer Lingus who "set up Southend" it was Aer Arann. (Waterford Aer Lingus franchise services came later). Aer Arann were forced by their new majority shareholder, Mr Eddie Stobart to switch the very successful early morning/ late evening Waterford and Galway flights from Luton to Southend. This was done by to promote his newly developed Southend airport to other airlines. Waterford airport, AerArann management, the waterford public, the dog on the street knew this was a terrible idea doomed to failure. But for Mr. Stobart it served its purpose, soon after he had a big contract with Easyjet to fly from Southen to around Europe so his Aer Arann pawn had served its use. The Waterford Southend route struggled badly intially but this year actually improved.

    Aer Arann have i believe their own financial difficulties. Even after Stobart bailed them out they are back in trouble again. No one will invest in them now so the only way they can get out of trouble is to sell an aircraft, which i belive is one of their newer AT75. The then decided to take the Waterford AT43 to replace the sold aircraft which is why they are pulling the Waterford services. I believe Aer Lingus actually requested Aer Arann to go back to the old Luton services but they flatly refused as it would show Southen to be the failure that it was. The Stobarts would not want that now would they.

    It has F**k all to do with a poll!!
    Southend was a bad idea and then they cut the Luton route which gave them the most profit.

    Go way..really?!!
    You would have to be stupid do to what they did and they ended up facing the consequences.

    You dont say!
    Also the airport wasn't pushing for Edinburgh, they said you could fly to Birmingham via Flybe from Waterford TO Edinburgh. So you had to go to Birmingham to get to Edinburgh.

    Haha..The airport has been pushing for a direct link to Edinburgh for the last couple of years. When it did'nt happen this year (although it was very close)then obviously they will promote the next next best thing which is to fly with Flybe through BHX.
    You said they done a poll to find what was most popular, they didn't ever, never ever. If they did a poll they wouldn't of left and made a sustainable profit to stay at Waterford.

    Tell you what..email the airport CEO Graham Doyle and tell him you have school project to do about the airport and would it be possible to access some of their market research that they have carried out in the last few years. Bring a trailer cause you will need it to carry all the files home with you!

    By the way
    so it's very unlikely a poll was done
    then
    they didn't ever, never ever
    which is it?..or did you find out new information half way through writing your post!!
    How did they think their current routes were profitable when they weren't popular?

    See above
    This poll also tells the truth.

    Quick..get the white house to hold a press conference..this is the bigger than Lance Armstrong!
    Aer arann have no idea how to run a business they offered dead-end routes at over the top prices, they did Not do a poll under any circumstances unless they are so stupid beyond belief.

    I do agree that they have no idea how to run a business they are widely renowned as being the most mismanaged airline out there. But the facts are they offered one dead end route and yes there price can sometime be abit exorbiant. That is due to the smaller aircraft (less cheap seats) and the franchise fee to Aer Lingus which was passed on to the pax. Plus unless your a proper low cost carrier like Ryanair or EasyJet then you will always pay that bit extra for convience.

    Look..as i said earlier i really do admire your enthusaism, more of it i say! But some of your wafflings had to taken to task. So its nothing personal. Great to see such a supporter of the airport.

    By the way one more thing can you eloborate on "Michael O'Learys hate of regional airports" Where are you getting this from..since they fly into regional airports all over europe!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Teebor15 wrote: »
    Have you not been listening at all in the last week. First of all it was'nt Aer Lingus who "set up Southend" it was Aer Arann. (Waterford Aer Lingus franchise services came later). Aer Arann were forced by their new majority shareholder, Mr Eddie Stobart to switch the very successful early morning/ late evening Waterford and Galway flights from Luton to Southend. This was done by to promote his newly developed Southend airport to other airlines. Waterford airport, AerArann management, the waterford public, the dog on the street knew this was a terrible idea doomed to failure. But for Mr. Stobart it served its purpose, soon after he had a big contract with Easyjet to fly from Southen to around Europe so his Aer Arann pawn had served its use. The Waterford Southend route struggled badly intially but this year actually improved.

    Aer Arann have i believe their own financial difficulties. Even after Stobart bailed them out they are back in trouble again. No one will invest in them now so the only way they can get out of trouble is to sell an aircraft, which i belive is one of their newer AT75. The then decided to take the Waterford AT43 to replace the sold aircraft which is why they are pulling the Waterford services. I believe Aer Lingus actually requested Aer Arann to go back to the old Luton services but they flatly refused as it would show Southen to be the failure that it was. The Stobarts would not want that now would they.

    It has F**k all to do with a poll!!



    Go way..really?!!



    You dont say!



    Haha..The airport has been pushing for a direct link to Edinburgh for the last couple of years. When it did'nt happen this year (although it was very close)then obviously they will promote the next next best thing which is to fly with Flybe through BHX.



    Tell you what..email the airport CEO Graham Doyle and tell him you have school project to do about the airport and would it be possible to access some of their market research that they have carried out in the last few years. Bring a trailer cause you will need it to carry all the files home with you!

    By the way then which is it?..or did you find out new information half way through writing your post!!



    See above



    Quick..get the white house to hold a press conference..this is the bigger than Lance Armstrong!



    I do agree that they have no idea how to run a business they are widely renowned as being the most mismanaged airline out there. But the facts are they offered one dead end route and yes there price can sometime be abit exorbiant. That is due to the smaller aircraft (less cheap seats) and the franchise fee to Aer Lingus which was passed on to the pax. Plus unless your a proper low cost carrier like Ryanair or EasyJet then you will always pay that bit extra for convience.

    Look..as i said earlier i really do admire your enthusaism, more of it i say! But some of your wafflings had to taken to task. So its nothing personal. Great to see such a supporter of the airport.

    By the way one more thing can you eloborate on "Michael O'Learys hate of regional airports" Where are you getting this from..since they fly into regional airports all over europe!

    Michael O' Leary said he hates regional airports in Ireland very clearly indeed search it up.

    Also if it has "eff all to do with the poll" then why make a big deal? What's with the JFK speech?

    I have continued to say they didn't do a poll and will, because it's pretty much obvious.

    We agree aer arann are a airline that has destroyed themselves but it's pretty clear they done little research into route development. And stobart made it worse!

    I'm on about aer arann by the way not the airport, the airport is not at fault here.

    Also I think you know what I mean by very unlikely And never ever, there both practically the same and both = No.

    I appreciate your contribution but a little less of the cringe-worthy sarcasm would be helpful on this disscusion Were all being serious here but no need for the cheek on every sentence. Thank you :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    Michael O' Leary said he hates regional airports in Ireland very clearly indeed search it up.

    Did a search? found nothing to say Michael O'Leary hates regional airports. I did find a peice in the Munster where he said he feels Waterford, Galway, Sligo and Donegal have no future but that has more to do with the fact that their runway cannot except his aircraft so course he is going to run them down. But certainly does hate them! He flies into every other regional airport in Ireland.

    Did find this though..which suggests the complete opposite.

    Ryanair career

    O'Leary was deputy chief executive of Ryanair between 1991 and 1994. In January 1994 he was promoted to chief executive of Ryanair. Under O'Leary's management, Ryanair further developed the low-cost model originated by Southwest Airlines.[4] O'Leary may have described the inauguration of the ancillary revenue movement during a 2001 interview in The Sunday Times.[5] "The other airlines are asking how they can put up fares. We are asking how we could get rid of them." The business model envisioned by O'Leary uses receipts from on board shopping, internet gaming, car hire and hotel bookings to replace the ticket revenue from selling airline seats. Savings are also made by negotiating discounts with airports for reduced landing fees. In many cases, regional airports have made no charges so as to secure flights that bring passengers and wealth into their area.
    Also if it has "eff all to do with the poll" then why make a big deal?

    Its because it has F**k all to do with some poll that i'm making "a big deal" of it. Your spoutin Sh**te..i rarely post on anything at all but on this i feel obliged to call you up on it.
    What's with the JFK speech?

    I was attempting..unsuccesfully by the looks of it to inject humour into your revelation of the century!
    I have continued to say they didn't do a poll and will, because it's pretty much obvious.

    Your totally missing the point..as i have explained in my last post a poll has f**k all to do with it. Everyone knew and still knows which are the routes they should be flying. Your poll as fun as it is..is telling nobody anything new. May i suggest you read the first part of my last post again to see why the routes were changed from LTN to SEN.
    We agree aer arann are a airline that has destroyed themselves but it's pretty clear they done little research into route development. And stobart made it worse!

    Yes i do believe they are poorly run and would not be surprised to see them fold in the next few years though i certainly would not welcome it. But why do you say its clear they done little research into route development? I know how stobart made it worse. But pre stobart..explain this please, i'm genuinly curious.
    I'm on about aer arann by the way not the airport, the airport is not at fault here.

    Yes i know..but your on about sending your poll to the airport when done. Your just telling them what they all ready know. But as i have said i admire your efforts and you hearts in the right place.
    Also I think you know what I mean by very unlikely And never ever, there both practically the same and both = No

    No, one is very definite and the other is "id imagine they did'nt..but i really dont know" But i'll let that one lie. :)
    I appreciate your contribution but a little less of the cringe-worthy sarcasm would be helpful on this disscusion Were all being serious here but no need for the cheek on every sentence. Thank you

    Thanks..i appreciate your contribution too but a little less of the unfounded ramblings and more of the truth. Apologies for the sarcasm..though i think i've done it again..sorry! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Teebor15 wrote: »
    Did a search? found nothing to say Michael O'Leary hates regional airports. I did find a peice in the Munster where he said he feels Waterford, Galway, Sligo and Donegal have no future but that has more to do with the fact that their runway cannot except his aircraft so course he is going to run them down. But certainly does hate them! He flies into every other regional airport in Ireland.

    Did find this though..which suggests the complete opposite.

    Ryanair career

    O'Leary was deputy chief executive of Ryanair between 1991 and 1994. In January 1994 he was promoted to chief executive of Ryanair. Under O'Leary's management, Ryanair further developed the low-cost model originated by Southwest Airlines.[4] O'Leary may have described the inauguration of the ancillary revenue movement during a 2001 interview in The Sunday Times.[5] "The other airlines are asking how they can put up fares. We are asking how we could get rid of them." The business model envisioned by O'Leary uses receipts from on board shopping, internet gaming, car hire and hotel bookings to replace the ticket revenue from selling airline seats. Savings are also made by negotiating discounts with airports for reduced landing fees. In many cases, regional airports have made no charges so as to secure flights that bring passengers and wealth into their area.



    Its because it has F**k all to do with some poll that i'm making "a big deal" of it. Your spoutin Sh**te..i rarely post on anything at all but on this i feel obliged to call you up on it.



    I was attempting..unsuccesfully by the looks of it to inject humour into your revelation of the century!



    Your totally missing the point..as i have explained in my last post a poll has f**k all to do with it. Everyone knew and still knows which are the routes they should be flying. Your poll as fun as it is..is telling nobody anything new. May i suggest you read the first part of my last post again to see why the routes were changed from LTN to SEN.



    Yes i do believe they are poorly run and would not be surprised to see them fold in the next few years though i certainly would not welcome it. But why do you say its clear they done little research into route development? I know how stobart made it worse. But pre stobart..explain this please, i'm genuinly curious.



    Yes i know..but your on about sending your poll to the airport when done. Your just telling them what they all ready know. But as i have said i admire your efforts and you hearts in the right place.



    No, one is very definite and the other is "id imagine they did'nt..but i really dont know" But i'll let that one lie. :)



    Thanks..i appreciate your contribution too but a little less of the unfounded ramblings and more of the truth. Apologies for the sarcasm..though i think i've done it again..sorry! :(

    Go and ask mr o Leary himself I'm sure he'll give you a straight answer :)

    This argument is as pointless as hell I think we both understand the reasons it's clear they messed up and we all know the routes we would love them to be flying but they only have themselves to blame.

    This poll is just to give an idea to the Airport of what routes could be popular in the future. Let's call it an "update" poll.

    Aer arann is gone now let them deal with their own issues and lets get other carriers in here.

    Also I wasn't on about pre-stobart when they done little research I was on about when stobart arrived, their lack of research or Actual progress has ruined the airline even further and it is of course disappointing.

    But I'm doing this poll just to see where people want to go on boards.ie Atleast, it maybe fun but hey maybe it is.

    Also don't feel obliged to post on here because of me post your own opinions without being encouraged by me or others, everybody has the right you know. I have a opinion that you don't agree with by the looks of it no need for swearing either. If your going to start swearing don't bother posting. While I hope I cleared things up now I hope we can both agree now. Please..? :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 506 ✭✭✭Teebor15


    Go and ask mr o Leary himself I'm sure he'll give you a straight answer

    So you could'nt find anything either..er..ok! See this is what i was talking about. Think before posting.
    This argument is as pointless as hell I think we both understand the reasons

    You did'nt ..thats why i felt compelled to post. But thankfully you do now.
    we all know the routes we would love them to be flying but they only have themselves to blame.

    All thanks to your poll! :D
    This poll is just to give an idea to the Airport of what routes could be popular in the future. Let's call it an "update" poll.

    I'm sure they are aware..but when your finished school your future is in marketing. Btw..the poll was abit of fun.
    Aer arann is gone now let them deal with their own issues and lets get other carriers in here.

    I agree.
    Also I wasn't on about pre-stobart when they done little research I was on about when stobart arrived

    But you just said the opposite here
    it's pretty clear they done little research into route development. And stobart made it worse
    But I'm doing this poll just to see where people want to go on boards.ie Atleast, it maybe fun but hey maybe it is.

    Yes it was fun.
    Also don't feel obliged to post on here because of me post your own opinions without being encouraged by me or others, everybody has the right you know

    Yes i felt obliged because of the reasons i stated earlier..and if you look at the beginning of this post i think im justified. I do and have posted my opinions on thing have a look back through my previous posts in my profile. But i dont feel the need to post about stuff that is just plain wrong!
    no need for swearing either. If your going to start swearing don't bother posting

    Your right on this. I just type the way i think. Apologies!
    While I hope I cleared things up now I hope we can both agree now. Please..?

    Dont think you have cleared things up the way you think you have and not sure what we are supposed to agreeing on but sure as i keep on saying , great to see your support for the airport which we both have in common. I'll leave you alone now. Cheers! :)










  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭RobitTV


    Teebor15 wrote: »
    So you could'nt find anything either..er..ok! See this is what i was talking about. Think before posting.




    You did'nt ..thats why i felt compelled to post. But thankfully you do now.



    All thanks to your poll! :D



    I'm sure they are aware..but when your finished school your future is in marketing. Btw..the poll was abit of fun.



    I agree.



    But you just said the opposite here



    Yes it was fun.



    Yes i felt obliged because of the reasons i stated earlier..and if you look at the beginning of this post i think im justified. I do and have posted my opinions on thing have a look back through my previous posts in my profile. But i dont feel the need to post about stuff that is just plain wrong!



    Your right on this. I just type the way i think. Apologies!



    Dont think you have cleared things up the way you think you have and not sure what we are supposed to agreeing on but sure as i keep on saying , great to see your support for the airport which we both have in common. I'll leave you alone now. Cheers! :)

    Well I could but I heard him say it so I couldn't be arsed :D

    Look nothing is wrong I just didn't state what you knew was right nobody else said anything so they have different views aswell :)

    Also I must clarify school plus marketing? Nah! :D

    And I totally respect the way you want to say stuff that's totally fine with me and with everyone else, no need to apologise either I totally understand we all want to get our points across and that's what everybody should start doing because nobody is speaking up anymore and it's ridiclious if you ask me, but hey it's up to the individual.

    Atleast we have clarification and agreement on Aer arann and stobart and we can leave it there and move on.

    Thanks and cheers! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    Are FLYBE a Birmingham-ese airline or do they operate from other cities in the UK?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    comeraghs wrote: »
    Are FLYBE a Birmingham-ese airline or do they operate from other cities in the UK?

    Operate from many UK airports, especially the smaller ones in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Growing speculation that Manx2 (rebraded Citywing from Jan) could be coming to Waterford. I realy hope it dosn't happen as they don't have the capacity to operate LTN. I can't see them being a good choise after ORK accident as people will still know. Largest aircraft has 17 seats which is not enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭b757


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Growing speculation that Manx2 (rebraded Citywing from Jan) could be coming to Waterford. I realy hope it dosn't happen as they don't have the capacity to operate LTN. I can't see them being a good choise after ORK accident as people will still know. Largest aircraft has 17 seats which is not enough.

    Me neither, it will be a disaster..

    Cityjet have dropped some routes for next year, could there be the possibility of a spare aircraft available.. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    I mailed the Waterford airport facebook page a few weeks ago - before the announcement about aer arrann pulling out. I was asking about flights as they hadn't shown up on the website yet (we know why now )

    I got a reply from them last week.

    " Shell, Aer Arann who are currently operating the Manchester service are ceasing to operate here from 6 January. We are discussing the Manchester route with other operators but it will be some time before there is news. Apologies."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 air2000


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    Growing speculation that Manx2 (rebraded Citywing from Jan) could be coming to Waterford. I realy hope it dosn't happen as they don't have the capacity to operate LTN. I can't see them being a good choise after ORK accident as people will still know. Largest aircraft has 17 seats which is not enough.

    Manx2 are not in discussions in relation to taking over Waterford routes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Manx2 are not in discussions in relation to taking over Waterford routes

    Well thats a good thing, as you seem so informed you could say what yuu know about this operator that needs to sort a few things out.


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