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America: Ordering the torture of innocent people and lying about it is fine, but...

  • 09-11-2012 8:58pm
    #1
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭


    ...have an affair and you're scum.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1109/cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns.html

    What
    The
    Fuck :confused::confused::confused:

    Now I accept that this particular guy took over in 2011 and wasn't directly involved in any of the major scandals. But I find it incredible that this man was forced to resign over a private family matter which is absolutely nobody else's business, while former CIA staff who presided over a reign of terror and criminality for almost a decade previous to his did not face the same fate.

    Two issues here. Firstly, why should a private matter such as this force someone to lose their professional job? Secondly, how in hell does one get away with the things the previous directors got away with, but get effectively fired over something like this (He resigned, but under pressure, so effectively one can say he was fired).

    Anyone else find this slightly messed up?


Comments

  • #2
    reginald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    I did'nt read any of the above but i tossed a coin and apparently you are right


  • #3
    ringadingding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭ringadingding


    More to this than meets the eye.
    Backhanded politics id say.

    Also maybe Obama wanted him out for a while and made his move ASAP after winning the election ?


  • #4
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    ringadingding wrote: »
    More to this than meets the eye.
    Backhanded politics id say.

    Also maybe Obama wanted him out for a while and made his move ASAP after winning the election ?

    I really hope so, if the face value of this incident is what actually happened it's extremely depressing.


  • #5
    The One Who Knocks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭The One Who Knocks


    ooooohh....controversial.


  • #6
    Maire2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭Maire2009


    So America should have voted for the rape guy? :pac:


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  • #7
    Big Bottom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    If you are will ing to cheat on your partner then it say a lot about you.

    Could you really trust someone who is a cheat?


  • #8
    Pottler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭Pottler


    I'm dumping the mistress at once and sticking to waterboarding people with beards. Thanks for the moral guidance OP:)


  • #9
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    In before 'Merica comment.


  • #10
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    Big Bottom wrote: »
    If you are will ing to cheat on your partner then it say a lot about you.

    Could you really trust someone who is a cheat?


  • #11
    sxt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭sxt


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    ...have an affair and you're scum.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1109/cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns.html

    What
    The
    Fuck :confused::confused::confused:

    Now I accept that this particular guy took over in 2011 and wasn't directly involved in any of the major scandals. But I find it incredible that this man was forced to resign over a private family matter which is absolutely nobody else's business, while former CIA staff who presided over a reign of terror and criminality for almost a decade previous to his did not face the same fate.

    Two issues here. Firstly, why should a private matter such as this force someone to lose their professional job? Secondly, how in hell does one get away with the things the previous directors got away with, but get effectively fired over something like this (He resigned, but under pressure, so effectively one can say he was fired).

    Anyone else find this slightly messed up?

    Yeah, it's all makey uppy political nonsense . The general public will not pay attenion to seeminly minute details .He will probably get paid a handsome pension for the rest of his life. I think it is pretty safe to say that David Petraeus made a VERY BIG MISTAKE that is covered up...


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  • #12
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    .............

    Two issues here. Firstly, why should a private matter such as this force someone to lose their professional job? Secondly, how in hell does one get away with the things the previous directors got away with, but get effectively fired over something like this (He resigned, but under pressure, so effectively one can say he was fired).

    Anyone else find this slightly messed up?

    An affair leaves him open to blackmail and as such is a complete no-no. A secret service agent lost his job recently for the same. It's nothing to do with "moral outrage" as such.


  • #13
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Nodin wrote: »
    An affair leaves him open to blackmail and as such is a complete no-no. A secret service agent lost his job recently for the same. It's nothing to do with "moral outrage" as such.

    Ding ding ding !!

    We have a winner !!


  • #14
    Emeraldy Pebbles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭Emeraldy Pebbles


    Well, apparently it is a no-no for an intelligence agent to have extramarital relations, because they might surrender sensitive information to their paramour.


  • #15
    admiralofthefleet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    in before you know who


  • #16
    Big Bottom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    No I dont know, who!


  • #17
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,174 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    So disappointed to hear about this. Petraeus was a fantastic general. Read a few books about him. Great leader of fighting men and women and awesome tactical leader. Everyone has their faults obviously


  • #18
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    Well, hope he doesn't go running for the hills;)


  • #19
    Johnny D. Mudd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Johnny D. Mudd


    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    in before you know who

    Urmmm.......Voldemort?


  • #20
    Rented Mule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Johnny D. Mudd wrote: »
    Urmmm.......Voldemort?

    Beetlejuce


  • #21
    Archeron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,417 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Beetlejuce

    .....beetlejuce.....


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  • #22
    Spiritual
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Spiritual


    Rented Mule wrote: »
    Beetlejuce

    Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

    Nope still no sign of him. Bummer. I'd really like to meet him.


  • #23
    Johnny D. Mudd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Johnny D. Mudd


    Spiritual wrote: »
    Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

    Nope still no sign of him. Bummer. I'd really like to meet him.

    I'm sorry. It's just I've been struggling to find my black and white three-piece suit and the dog is currently chewing on my left shoe. Just give us a few minutes and I'll get things sorted and make an appearance. Meanwhile the Head Shrinker is on his way there.


  • #24
    whatsthetime
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭whatsthetime


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    ...have an affair and you're scum.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1109/cia-director-david-petraeus-resigns.html

    What
    The
    Fuck :confused::confused::confused:

    Now I accept that this particular guy took over in 2011 and wasn't directly involved in any of the major scandals. But I find it incredible that this man was forced to resign over a private family matter which is absolutely nobody else's business, while former CIA staff who presided over a reign of terror and criminality for almost a decade previous to his did not face the same fate.

    Two issues here. Firstly, why should a private matter such as this force someone to lose their professional job? Secondly, how in hell does one get away with the things the previous directors got away with, but get effectively fired over something like this (He resigned, but under pressure, so effectively one can say he was fired).

    Anyone else find this slightly messed up?

    Could be who he had the affair with is the problem?


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