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Cloud seeding (Chemtrailing) in China

  • 07-11-2012 9:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭


    Artificial snowstorm brings chaos to Beijing



    Chinese scientists have artificially induced the second major snowstorm to wreak havoc in Beijing this season, state media said, reigniting debate over the practice of tinkering with Mother Nature.


    After the earliest snow to hit the capital in 22 years fell on November 1, the capital has again been shrouded in white, with more snow expected in the coming three days, the National Meteorological Centre said.


    The China Daily, citing an unnamed official, said the Beijing Weather Modification Office had artificially induced both storms by seeding clouds with chemicals, a practice that can increase precipitation by up to 20 per cent.


    The office refused to comment on the report when contacted. On Tuesday, an official had said the storm was "natural".


    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-11-11/artificial-snowstorm-brings-chaos-to-beijing/1138460


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭optimistic_


    Conspiracy Theory forum is that-a way/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    This is factual. It stays here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Overflow


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    This is factual. It stays here.

    So where are the facts then ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭Overflow


    Just because you read something which you believe to be true does not make it factual:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtyYlAH0f_M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭summerskin


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    Artificial snowstorm brings chaos to Beijing




    The China Daily, citing an unnamed official, said the Beijing Weather Modification Office had artificially induced both storms by seeding clouds with chemicals, a practice that can increase precipitation by up to 20 per cent.



    Hardly makes it official. head to the CT forum and chat to RTDH.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Overflow wrote: »
    So where are the facts then ?

    Google is your friend. Say hello !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    The Beijing Weather Modification Office is a unit of the Beijing Meteorological Bureau tasked with weather control in Beijing and its surrounding areas, including parts of Hebei and Inner Mongolia.[1][2][3] The Beijing Weather Modification Office form a part of China's nationwide weather control effort, believed to be the world's largest; it employs 37,000 people nationwide, who seed clouds by firing rockets and shells loaded with silver iodide into them.[4] According to Zhang Qiang, head of the Office, cloud seeding increased precipitation in Beijing by about one-eighth in 2004; nationwide, similar efforts added 7.4 trillion cubic feet (210 km3) of rain between 1995 and 2003.[5]
    The work of the Office is largely aimed at hailstorm prevention or making rain to end droughts; they have also induced precipitation for purposes of firefighting or counteracting the effect of severe dust storms, as they did in the aftermath of one storm in April 2006 which dropped 300,000 tonnes of dust and sand on the city and was believed to have been the largest in five years.[2][6] Their technology was also used to create snow on New Year's Day in 1997.[7] Other proposed future uses for induced precipitation include lowering temperatures in summer, in hopes of reducing electricity consumption.[5] More prominently, they were enlisted by the Chinese government to ensure that the 2008 Summer Olympics are free of rain, by breaking up clouds headed towards the capital and forcing them to drop rain on outlying areas instead.[4] The office created a snowstorm in November of 2009.[8][9]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Weather_Modification_Office


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭SunDog


    Reported 3 years ago by ABC from a unnamed source...

    I trust it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Drakares


    Conspiracy Theory forum is that-a way/

    Why would it go to the conspiracy forum? Cloud seeding is a feat of scientific engineering that's been around for years..


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    This is factual. It stays here.

    So, it's not a general discussion topic?

    Weather forum would be better suited to this I reckon, if are looking for people with knowledge on such things to get input from.


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  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Drakares wrote: »
    Why would it go to the conspiracy forum? Cloud seeding is a feat of scientific engineering that's been around for years..
    Chemtrailing isn't a feat of scientific engineering however - it is a conspiracy theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Chemtrailing isn't a feat of scientific engineering however - it is a conspiracy theory.

    Kinda half right there.
    To document the movement and dispersion of aerosols in the atmosphere, we offer tracer technologies that enable you to release and track a variety of materials to considerable distances downwind. If the terrain is complex, we can provide numerical models to gain understanding of locally specific transport and dispersion.

    http://www.weathermodification.com/environmental-monitoring.php

    Wiki
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_modification

    China spends a shed load, could be over a $100/PA, on weather modification.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    squod wrote: »
    China spends a shed load, could be over a $100/PA, on weather modification.

    An entire €100 per annum? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    An entire €100 per annum? :pac:

    They buy all their shite off e-bay. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Chemtrailing isn't a feat of scientific engineering however - it is a conspiracy theory.

    If "Monkey Magic" has taught us anything, it's that the Chinese can control and summon clouds at will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    An entire €100 per annum? :pac:

    The props for rain dances aren't that expensive, really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Off topic; Interesting stuff from Lufthansa. Doing something useful with their aircraft.
    We design our aircraft so that climate research can be underway while they are in service.
    http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/themen/climate-research.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    For the tinfoils:
    Cloud seeding and Chemtrailing are different things.
    http://www.thetruthdenied.com/news/2011/11/24/cloud-seeding-is-not-chemtrails/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Wondering how much silver iodide is used like. Say 40 or 50 or more years worth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 422 ✭✭BensonSlide


    I always trust the word of an unnamed official.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    OP, the link is from 2009. Is a bit of snow in china that fell 3 years ago really worthy of a thread? You use of the word "chemtrailing" is in the title makes it look like it belongs on CT forum. When I saw that I though Run To The Hills posted it.


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