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Why don't we celebrate Guy Fawkes?

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  • 05-11-2012 10:22pm
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    Mint Sauce
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    Over in London at the mo, and there has been fireworks going off all weekend in the parks and commons, acompanied by bonfires in some.

    The above question was raised over lunch today, why dont we celebrate it. He was of course a catholic who tried to blow up the Houses of Parlament. I thought that kinda thing would be praised by some aspects of the irish community.

    :pac:


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    TheBody
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    Over in London at the mo, and there has been fireworks going off all weekend in the parks and commons, acompanied by bonfires in some.

    The above question was raised over lunch today, why dont we celebrate it. He was of course an Irish man who tried to blow up the Houses of Parlament. I thought that kinda thing would be praised by some aspects of the irish community.

    :pac:

    They burn an effigy of him.


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    maximoose
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    Fawke knows.


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    jam_mac_jam
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    Did somebody really ask you that? I don't think he was Irish anyway catholic but not Irish.


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    AgentOraiste
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    We irish dont give a Fawke


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    Mint Sauce
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    TheBody wrote: »
    They burn an effigy of him.

    That represents his execution though, thought we could have taken on celebrating his attempts to blow the place up though.

    :p


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    Scioch
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    He wasnt Irish and they aint celebrating him they are celebrating killing him and its primarily a "fcuk Catholicism" kinda thing.

    Not really our cup of tea I'd say.


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    MissFlitworth
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    The above question was raised over lunch today, why dont we celebrate it.He was of course a catholic who tried to blow up the Houses of Parlament. I thought that kinda thing would be praised by some aspects of the irish community.

    They're celebrating that he was stopped, caught, tortured and executed, not that he nearly got away with it


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    Lenin Skynard
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    Sure lets celebrate Bastille day and Thanksgiving while we're at it.


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    TheBody
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Did somebody really ask you that? I don't think he was Irish anyway catholic but not Irish.

    Wikipedia says he was born in York.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes


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    Sparks43
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    Because he was a Brit

    Case closed

    Thread=Damp Squib


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    jam_mac_jam
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    I sometimes wonder do English people know we are a different country? I was asked last year why we didn't get a day off for the royal wedding. They should learn a little of their history.


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    Seaneh
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    why dont we celebrate it.

    Because he was english and he failed?


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    philologos
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    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Because he was a Brit

    Case closed

    Thread=Damp Squib

    So was Patrick :)


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    Mint Sauce
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    Scioch wrote: »
    He wasnt Irish and they aint celebrating him they are celebrating killing him and its primarily a "fcuk Catholicism" kinda thing.

    Not really our cup of tea I'd say.

    I know it was to celebrate the killing off him, I was talking about an irish stance on the thing though. To correct my self though, got the religion/nationallty thing mixed up hence my quick edit.

    I should really say at this point, I dont support terrorism, this thread is purely tounge in check.


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    subway
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    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

    Its not really v for vendetta night...


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    steve9859
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    Scioch wrote: »
    its primarily a "fcuk Catholicism" kinda thing.

    Yes, because all school kids who stuff straw and old newspapers into some old clothes on 5th November are actually expressing their anti Catholicism.....


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    Seaneh
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    philologos wrote: »
    So was Patrick :)

    Patrick at least lived here and actually gave a toss about Ireland.

    Fawkes was just and English Catholic who supported a Catholic king.


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    Lapin
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    He was of course a catholic who tried to blow up the Houses of Parlament.

    2 perfect reasons not to celebrate the nutter.


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    jam_mac_jam
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    I know it was to celebrate the killing off him, I was talking about an irish stance on the thing though. To correct my self though, got the religion/nationallty thing mixed up hence my quick edit.

    I should really say at this point, I dont support terrorism, this thread is purely tounge in check.

    Why would we have any stance on it? Should we also celebrate the 8th May or Bastille day, its nothing to do with us.


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    candy-gal1
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    Watched this



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UtojJT8ts




    in celebration of today, only saw it first recently, awesome movie as hadnt a clue what to expect! :)


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    El_Dangeroso
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    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Because he was a Brit

    Case closed

    Thread=Damp Squib

    Interesting factoid: A squib is a firework, therefore the term 'Damp Squib' means a firework that doesn't go off. How apropos for the day that's in it.:)


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    Mint Sauce
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    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Why would we have any stance on it? Should we also celebrate the 8th May or Bastille day, its nothing to do with us.

    It wasn't a serious conversation, more of a p!sstake on the thing.


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    Sparks43
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    El_Dangeroso wrote: »
    Interesting factoid: A squib is a firework, therefore the term 'Damp Squib' means a firework that doesn't go off. How apropos for the day that's in it.:)

    Wow


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    Scioch
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    steve9859 wrote: »
    Yes, because all school kids who stuff straw into some old clothes on 5th November are actually expressing their anti Catholicism.....

    Kids are stupid, they like fires and noise. The celebration itself is simply the left over fanfare of an anti catholic/burn the traitor to the crown crap.

    Not really anything at all for Irish people to row in behind now is it ?.


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    El_Dangeroso
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    Sparks43 wrote: »
    Wow

    OK


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    Downlinz
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    It's threads like this that makes after hours insufferable these days. Why is this place so obsessed with Britain? Why does everything that country does have to be contexualised and examined for relevancy here? Why that one country and no place else on the planet?
    On the first two pages we've a thread about Poppie, a thread on Guy Fawkes, two on british footballers, another on Britains invasion history, one on a program about gambling in Britain, another on a British celebrity pedophile.

    It's pathetic and ongoing. Just rename this board "British culture discussion" and give the rest of us a social board to talk about relevant things.


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    An Coilean
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    irish-stew wrote: »
    Over in London at the mo, and there has been fireworks going off all weekend in the parks and commons, acompanied by bonfires in some.

    The above question was raised over lunch today, why dont we celebrate it. He was of course a catholic who tried to blow up the Houses of Parlament. I thought that kinda thing would be praised by some aspects of the irish community.

    :pac:

    Sounds like the kind of guy whos life should be celebrated :D


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    AgentOraiste
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    An Coilean wrote: »
    Sounds like the kind of guy whos life should be celebrated :D

    Many who did similar things are known as terrorists and got jobs in Stormount


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    asherbassad
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    TheBody wrote: »
    They burn an effigy of him.

    Same reason we don't celebrate Bastille Day. It's nothing to fcuking do with us.


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    gobnaitolunacy
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    Apparantly he was the only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions.


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