Warmcoat paint

nudger

Has anyone used this paint and is it any good.

I have a lot of condensation on the bedroom wall and was thinking of trying it out but at €75 a 5l tin it is expensive.

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Has anyone used this paint and is it any good.

I have a lot of condensation on the bedroom wall and was thinking of trying it out but at €75 a 5l tin it is expensive.

Theres been a few threads about it here on Boards.

The conclusion is to save the money and remedy the problem correctly.

Have a search for the threads on it.

nudger

Paddy, are you talking about drilling a vent as there isn't one in the room and slabbing the walls with 50 ml boards?

Have checked outside, no cracks, gutters fine, walls painted outside last year.

The only change is that I added extra insulation in the attic.

I could open the window a bit but you know how the girls like that.:(

Don't fancy replacing the double glazed with triple.

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Paddy, are you talking about drilling a vent as there isn't one in the room and slabbing the walls with 50 ml boards?

Have checked outside, no cracks, gutters fine, walls painted outside last year.

The only change is that I added extra insulation in the attic.

I could open the window a bit but you know how the girls like that.:(

Don't fancy replacing the double glazed with triple.

Yes you should have a mechanical vent in each room of the house.

You can buy air vents with angled slats in them that prevent lots of external noise comming into the room,but still allows fresh air to get in.

nudger

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes you should have a mechanical vent in each room of the house.

You can buy air vents with angled slats in them that prevent lots of external noise comming into the room,but still allows fresh air to get in.

When you say mechanical vent is that the normal vent that you would get in a diy store, circular external with louvered slats and some have a fly screen affect.

Then on the inside you can have the adjustable one.

Do you need to get a 4" core drill or could you get away with say 5 or 6 10ml drill holes?

danjo-xx

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes you should have a mechanical vent in each room of the house.

You can buy air vents with angled slats in them that prevent lots of external noise comming into the room,but still allows fresh air to get in.

Hi paddy, I'm interested in this, nothing came up on google, could you post an image if you can. tnks

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

When you say mechanical vent is that the normal vent that you would get in a diy store, circular external with louvered slats and some have a fly screen affect.

Then on the inside you can have the adjustable one.

Do you need to get a 4" core drill or could you get away with say 5 or 6 10ml drill holes?

Thats the type of vent indeed.

"Stadium" make white vents with flyscreens and an open/close slat too.

Any good builders providers will have Stadium vents in stock.

A Core drill bit or a 12-15mm SDS masonary drill bit and drill your hole that way.

Make sure you have a good SDS drill to do the drilling.;)

It will make the job that much easier.:)

paddy147

danjo-xx wrote: »

Hi paddy, I'm interested in this, nothing came up on google, could you post an image if you can. tnks

Grange Builders Providers in baldoyle had them in stock a while ago.

Basicly its a round plastic tube with baffle plates inside that makes the air go back and forwards on itself and it dampens down the external noise,yet still allows fresh air to enter the house.

nudger

paddy147 wrote: »

Thats the type of vent indeed.

"Stadium" make white vents with flyscreens and an open/close slat too.

Any good builders providers will have Stadium vents in stock.

A Core drill bit or a 12-15mm SDS masonary drill bit and drill your hole that way.

Make sure you have a good SDS drill to do the drilling.;)

It will make the job that much easier.:)

Do you mean going around in a circle 8-10 holes then Knocking out the centre?

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Do you mean going around in a circle 8-10 holes then Knocking out the centre?

Yep you can do it that way by drilling 10 holes in a circular pattern.Then use a lump hammer and chisel to knock it out.

Or you can hire out a 4 inch or 5 inch diamond core hole saw.

But these can throw up alot of masonary dust.

Either way you will create dust,I would cover the furniture/bed with a dust sheet and also put down a sheet on the floor too.

And make sure your drill is an SDS drill too.

Best of luck with it.:)

nudger

Going to open the small window a bit for now, que rows .

Don't have a SDS drill, managed to get by till now, feel a bit of man shopping coming on.

Wouldn't have a big need for the SDS drill as my buddy has most of the heavy stuff, but he is on a job down the country and won't be back for a few weeks.

So a cheap electric one might do the trick, B&Q brand or Worx might do for under €100.

Any reviews on cheap sds drills that last a bit, Aldi, lidl?

paddy147

nudger wrote: »

Going to open the small window a bit for now, que rows .

Don't have a SDS drill, managed to get by till now, feel a bit of man shopping coming on.

Wouldn't have a big need for the SDS drill as my buddy has most of the heavy stuff, but he is on a job down the country and won't be back for a few weeks.

So a cheap electric one might do the trick, B&Q brand or Worx might do for under €100.

Any reviews on cheap sds drills that last a bit, Aldi, lidl?

You will need an sds drill for using 12-15mm masonary drill bits and also for a masonary core hole saw.

You can hire one out from a builders providers/hire shop for 20-25 euro a day or you can buy one for around 50-60 euro in Argos or Lidl/Aldi.


I bought a Parkside SDS/Impact Hammer drill in Lidl for 40 euro a few months back.One hell of a drill for the money.:D

paddy147

Pic of Parkside SDS/Impact Hammer Drill.

Fantastic bit of kit for the money.:)

nudger

paddy147 wrote: »

Pic of Parkside SDS/Impact Hammer Drill.

Fantastic bit of kit for the money.:)

That's what I'd be looking for, cheers.

bbam

Would you not Consider having trickle vents fitted to the existing windows.

They give more controllable ventilation, little to no noise and fitted to a window in a few minutes.

Traditional "big hole in the wall" vents are noisy and draughty.

paddy147

bbam wrote: »

Would you not Consider having trickle vents fitted to the existing windows.

They give more controllable ventilation, little to no noise and fitted to a window in a few minutes.

Traditional "big hole in the wall" vents are noisy and draughty.

Interesting.

Can I ask how you would fit trickle vents into an existing Upvc frame??

Honest question here.

Thanks.:)

bbam

paddy147 wrote: »

Interesting.

Can I ask how you would fit trickle vents into an existing Upvc frame??

Honest question here.

Thanks.:)

Honestly.. I havent done it...
My sister had it done by munster a few years back
Here are some links though...

http://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/trickle-vents-easy-to-fit/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TmP3zmOmQ

http://shop.windowrepairshop.co.uk/Trickle-Vents

mad m

I serioulsy wouldnt rate trickle vents, people put blinds up and block the flow from the vents. IMO they will not give the room enough air anyway. The best method was suggested already with 4" vents.

paddy147

bbam wrote: »

Honestly.. I havent done it...
My sister had it done by munster a few years back
Here are some links though...

http://www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/trickle-vents-easy-to-fit/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TmP3zmOmQ

http://shop.windowrepairshop.co.uk/Trickle-Vents

Thats why I love boards.ie

You allways learn something new from other people.

Thanks.:):)

paddy147

mad m wrote: »

I serioulsy wouldnt rate trickle vents, people put blinds up and block the flow from the vents. IMO they will not give the room enough air anyway. The best method was suggested already with 4" vents.

Mind reader eh??:D^^^^^^^^^

In was just about to ask if trickle vents then mean that you dont need a 4 inch hole in the wall??

bbam

paddy147 wrote: »

Mind reader eh??:D^^^^^^^^^

In was just about to ask if trickle vents then mean that you dont need a 4 inch hole in the wall??

Well the regs for new builds allow them as an alternative to boring a 4" hole through a wall in every room.. And then moaning about the incessant wind, noise and draughts..

irelandspurs

Get your walls insulated.

mad m

bbam wrote: »

Well the regs for new builds allow them as an alternative to boring a 4" hole through a wall in every room.. And then moaning about the incessant wind, noise and draughts..

As far as i'm concerned the regs are wrong....Have yo ever gone back to see the amount of dirt that gathers around them after few years,it looks horrible, this happens to 4inch vents as well but not as bad. You can always get open and close vents if the noise bothers. If the 4 inch vents are done properly you wont have wind or noise. Sure you will get a draught through trickle vents as well.

Villaines

A big vent in an uninsulated wall is a disaster. Have a jumper to prove that!

As for the trickle vents, there's a crowd call brook vent in the north that sell white aluminium controllable ones with a concealed foam seal. Way better than the plastic ones.

And imo the hit and miss vent covers are crappy at reducing noise from wall vents.

Villaines

nudger wrote: »

Has anyone used this paint and is it any good.

I have a lot of condensation on the bedroom wall and was thinking of trying it out but at €75 a 5l tin it is expensive.

I have used it. Good at keeping the mould at bay for 6 months max. "Nasa paint" me bollix!

Dulux bathroom paint is as good, iced white.

nudger

Villaines wrote: »

I have used it. Good at keeping the mould at bay for 6 months max. "Nasa paint" me bollix!

Dulux bathroom paint is as good, iced white.

To be honest since I persuaded herself that she wouldn't freeze to death with the small window open a bit at night, the problem is sorted.

I have been airing the house too most days as we have people staying with us and they are never out of the shower.:mad:

I don't have a fan/vent in the upstairs bathroom so that's the next job, probably where the extra condensation was coming from, what's with 2 showers a day.

bbam

mad m wrote: »

As far as i'm concerned the regs are wrong....Have yo ever gone back to see the amount of dirt that gathers around them after few years,it looks horrible, this happens to 4inch vents as well but not as bad. You can always get open and close vents if the noise bothers. If the 4 inch vents are done properly you wont have wind or noise. Sure you will get a draught through trickle vents as well.

We have them four years...
Little noise, ventilation but no draughts at all..

IMHO, they are far superior

mastermind2005

nudger wrote: »

Going to open the small window a bit for now, que rows .

Don't have a SDS drill, managed to get by till now, feel a bit of man shopping coming on.

Wouldn't have a big need for the SDS drill as my buddy has most of the heavy stuff, but he is on a job down the country and won't be back for a few weeks.

So a cheap electric one might do the trick, B&Q brand or Worx might do for under €100.

Any reviews on cheap sds drills that last a bit, Aldi, lidl?

Bought this one myself after alot of research, its an sds plus.

http://www.jebbtools.ie/drills/sds-drill-230-volts-hitachi.html

rubywax

I used warmcoat paint last week. Put on 1st coat let it dry for 2days, put on 2nd coat let it dry for 2days. then after that the bloody paint is flaking, so i deffo think its a load of expensive rubbish. Oh & i have been painting for yrs & never had paint flake before