cost of replacing water tank

Dublin_Mom

Hello,

Is 320 euro a good price to replace a water tank in an attic? That is supply and fit, but not take the old one away, as that would need to be cut up as it is too large to fit through the attic opening.

This is for my parents, so just want to be sure its a good price.

Any ideas?

Thank you

sanbrafyffe

just leave your old tank to one side in your attic unless you need it for flowers:D

im in the country so my price would differ
first of all id go to a plumbing store and see how much they are
it will not take a good plumber long to change one over,,,unless he drags it out,,,,,myself,,,i would have it done well under two hours,,,id allow 30-40 euro for the fittings,,,ballvalve,,350's etc,,,,and 40 for myself,,,,so lets say thats 80,,,,,so that leaves 240 for the tank,,,,god id come up and do it myself for that money:D

price your tank and add on 40 for the fittings and see how much it comes to,,,,my advice

Dublin_Mom wrote: »

Hello,

Is 320 euro a good price to replace a water tank in an attic? That is supply and fit, but not take the old one away, as that would need to be cut up as it is too large to fit through the attic opening.

This is for my parents, so just want to be sure its a good price.

Any ideas?

Thank you

browner85

In my opinion its a good price id be chargin about €350-€400

anthonyos

i charge 350 cash for doing them 90 for tank 40 for gear lagging etc 30 for a sheet of 3/4 ply for platform plus 2x3s for under it ...

dpofloinn

It would be fair enough but at the same time it would be towards the upper end of what one would expect to pay, materials would be anywhere from 150 to 250 incl VAT depending on the size of the tank and number of connections

anthonyos

sanbrafyffe you say 40 for yourself as in 40 for labour ????

spireland32

Was at one recently, same thing 300euro nixer king... no base for the tank. Tank buckled/twisted with the heat in the attic and fell between the joists where it was unsupported. All the old fittings and ballcock used. No pipes lagged. No lid (9 times out of 10 no lid is fitted). No tank jacket. Expansion hanging down no clips in sight. And regularly see the heating f&e tank sitting on top of the domestic tank with the sides falling in with the weight.

A legitimate company has to pay tax, insurance, pension, diesel, paye, prsi, etc etc. I could not do it for 320€. You get what you pay for I suppose

sanbrafyffe

yes,,,and also,,,there might be ply there and old armflex on the pipes (even better than the new crap),,,so no need to buy and fit in the price new stuff:D:D:D:D:D

anthonyos wrote: »

sanbrafyffe you say 40 for yourself as in 40 for labour ????

anthonyos

ye seen one last week in a house there was a 2x3 at both ends of the tank and in the middle was a few sticks the likes of which you would use for kindling in a fire ...the tank was sagging in the middle...

anthonyos

40 euro you cant be for real lad i wouldnt change a ballvalve for 40 euro never mind tanks ha ha your having me on:)

sanbrafyffe

i think a lid is important but as for a tank jacket well that depends on where the tank is positioned,,,up high and close to the apex,close to a roof with poor insulation id say yes to a jacket,,,but if it was well away from these and in a well insulated attic it should be ok

great thing bout in the country is when the fire chest?chimney goes straight up throught the house and through the attic it can realese good heat off even throught the chimney brick and keep the attic at a nice temp:D

spireland32 wrote: »

Was at one recently, same thing 300euro nixer king... no base for the tank. Tank buckled/twisted with the heat in the attic and fell between the joists where it was unsupported. All the old fittings and ballcock used. No pipes lagged. No lid (9 times out of 10 no lid is fitted). No tank jacket. Expansion hanging down no clips in sight. And regularly see the heating f&e tank sitting on top of the domestic tank with the sides falling in with the weight

sanbrafyffe

and where you from again,,,,lol,,,is it any wonder the country is broke lol,,,jokin,,,well thats my price here in the local town and i know half of them,,,i dont know what price id have in dublin,,,i change a ballcock for 20,,,fitted,,,not supplied etc,,,for me to do a shower its 40 aswell...change a hot water tank its 50 etc,,,kitchen sink is 30,,,,all is fitted ,not supplied

anthonyos wrote: »

40 euro you cant be for real lad i wouldnt change a ballvalve for 40 euro never mind tanks ha ha your having me on:)

K.Flyer

spireland32 wrote: »

.... And regularly see the heating f&e tank sitting on top of the domestic tank with the sides falling in with the weight

And I bet the overflow warning pipe from the F&E was just left hanging over the main storage tank as well.

anthonyos

small town prices i understand but i still wouldnt sell my services as a skilled trades man for less than minium wages...your a dole trader id say aswell

K.Flyer

sanbrafyffe wrote: »

... i change a ballcock for 20,,,fitted,,,not supplied etc,,,for me to do a shower its 40 aswell...change a hot water tank its 50 etc,,,kitchen sink is 30,,,,all is fitted ,not supplied

Are those your cash in hand prices or with / without vat and a receipt issued price?

spireland32

sanbrafyffe wrote: »

and where you from again,,,,lol,,,is it any wonder the country is broke lol,,,jokin,,,well thats my price here in the local town and i know half of them,,,i dont know what price id have in dublin,,,i change a ballcock for 20,,,fitted,,,not supplied etc,,,for me to do a shower its 40 aswell...change a hot water tank its 50 etc,,,kitchen sink is 30,,,,all is fitted ,not supplied

You change a cylinder for 50euro... that's not even a nixer price

anthonyos

i bet he is up to his eye with work

sanbrafyffe

lads come on now,,,,,dont be hitting on me with nasty comments,,,we all have to make a living,,,just cause my prices wont be beaten,,no need to tackle me

anthonyos

are you on the dole... i cant believe your prices iv never heard the likes of it ...you need to charge decent money for job otherwise bills dont get paid kids go hungery and your lifesyle is that of a plumber living in cambodia

sanbrafyffe

no i work as an instrument pipefitter,,,,when i served my time in dublin i took on houses myself to earn extra cash,,,still a bit rusty on the plumbing these days:D,,,just do bits when home for friends etc

anthonyos wrote: »

are you on the dole... i cant believe your prices iv never heard the likes of it ...you need to charge decent money for job otherwise bills dont get paid kids go hungery and your lifesyle is that of a plumber living in cambodia

shane0007

anthonyos wrote: »

small town prices i understand but i still wouldnt sell my services as a skilled trades man for less than minium wages...your a dole trader id say aswell

anthonyos wrote: »

are you on the dole... i cant believe your prices iv never heard the likes of it ...you need to charge decent money for job otherwise bills dont get paid kids go hungery and your lifesyle is that of a plumber living in cambodia

Although I completely agree with all of your arguments against Sanbrafyffe, I don't think it is correct to accuse him of being on the dole and working at the same time for low fees. God knows I think most of his advice here is far from useful but I think those comments are unfair. His standards of workmanship/knowledge could well be questionable and therefore his standards but it does not mean that he claiming the dole.

anthonyos

shane0007 wrote: »

Although I completely agree with all of your arguments against Sanbrafyffe, I don't think it is correct to accuse him of being on the dole and working at the same time for low fees. God knows I think most of his advice here is far from useful but I think those comments are unfair. His standards of workmanship/knowledge could well be questionable and therefore his standards but it does not mean that he claiming the dole.

i have drawn the dole and worked myself shane i have nothing againist it at all in fact i was doing better on the dole and working....im just curious to how he can charge such "competitive" prices he obviously isnt running a legit business and how it is affecting legit plumbing businesses ..how would you feel if he was operating in your town??? and the locals where saying your very expensive compared to Sanbrafyffe????

shane0007

anthonyos wrote: »

i have drawn the dole and worked myself shane i have nothing againist it at all in fact i was doing better on the dole and working....

I can't see your argument if you are admitting to drawing the dole and working at the same time. It is ok for you to do but not for somebody else.
He has told you he works as a pipe fitter. He could be employed by somebody else and doing a few nixers. Either way, it is none of our business. If he is genuinely doing a good job for that money, he will be a busy fool. Judging by his advice, I think he is not doing to the correct standards.

anthonyos wrote: »

how would you feel if he was operating in your town??? and the locals where saying your very expensive compared to Sanbrafyffe????

He is!
However, I do not think I have to call an Emergency Meeting to plan how I can save the business from work being swiped away from us by Sanbrafyffe. If he wishes to do a good job for that kind of money, good luck to him. If he is doing a crap job for that money, he won't last long.
My motto is if I do a bad job, the client will tell 20 people but if I do a good job, they will only tell 1 person, so I have to cherish the one referral I do get.

anthonyos

small town lads i went to fas with them just interested to see how they operate as im from the city myself i was taken back by his prices shane im not going to lose a nights sleep over it a man has got to do what a mans got to do more luck to him:)

pistolero

Hi, In a moment of inspiration I decided to replace my attic storage tank- it been in the house since built in the early 1950's- it was a galvanised tank. My attic is a nightmare for access and the replacement turned in a very messy job with sections of the ceiling being cut out in order to get a coffin tank in. As it turned out the original tank was on its last legs. I used a guy from Dublin Pumps.ie- ( Paul),excellent.
No issues - tank he brought with him- (even after see the job, was too big - went got smaller one, raised the head height - emptied and cleaned the old tank which had to stay up there. I can't imagine what it would have been like to get this done as an emergency job (as usual- probably would have leaked on Christmas morning). Trust me- if you have an old galvanised tank and it is not leaking- get it replaced if you at all possibly can- €400/€450, money well spent if as awkward as mine.