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31-10-2012 12:16pm#1
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Well that seems like a pretty obnoxious way to conduct yourself on a public forum.
Indeed.
Wasn't trying to be obnoxious just gave an opinion as you would on a forum and got verbal abuse back. I had to defend myself in some way.
I like many people Im sure who have had situations at bus stops, there were many times where I have ran for the bus and got to the door and had the door closed in my face and ingored. I guess thats ok as well.
Dont have a personal gripe against bus men/women as i have a couple of friends who are bus drivers and there sound people, I just felt for the person who had probably just waited 20 minutes for a bus to get to work and be told after 8 people getting off that he couldnt get on, I can understand his frustration.
For the people who beleive life is just black and white and rules are stook to by everyone, I find that quite funny. There are many situations in life where people shall we say bend the rules slightly if it suits but when we have disussions like this being right is all that counts and human empathy goes out the window.
Anyway I apologise for sounding a bit obnoxious or arrogant in this instance, was defo not trying to be.
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I like many people Im sure who have had situations at bus stops, there were many times where I have ran for the bus and got to the door and had the door closed in my face and ingored. I guess thats ok as well.
For the people who beleive life is just black and white and rules are stook to by everyone, I find that quite funny. There are many situations in life where people shall we say bend the rules slightly if it suits but when we have disussions like this being right is all that counts and human empathy goes out the window.
In the course of a normal working week,I would regularly be in a position of having to dynamically manage my passenger load.
Depending upon the vehicle I'm driving,my pasengers could well have to distribute themselves back almost 12 metres and over 90 seats as well as various nooks and crannies to stand or lean against.
This invariably takes some time to happen,particularly with the single door operation,which is why I am a BIG (6`7"
) fan of multiple door operation.
For me,driving a bus is the easiest part of the job,the real work revolves around short-circuiting the vast propensity of most people to ignore the basic principle of Public Transport.....it's for The Public...as many of them as possible,which makes it downright devious and selfish to board a bus and immediately clamp oneself onto the luggage pen,thereby forcing every other passenger,boarding or alighting,to squeeze past you.
Added to this is the reluctance of folks to head upstairs when that location is empty,preferring to crowd around the bottom of the stairs to ensure that nobody else gets to enter the viewing lounge either.
These elements and more all conspire to ensure that I will leave several intending passengers goldfishing at some stops,but that,s the nature of the beast I'm afraid.
Unfortunately,capacity issues are now cropping up on many routes as the effects of a fleet reduction of c.200 vehicles and 350 drivers finally percolates through.
If those 200 buses were available for peak requirements it would provide a spot capacity of c.14,800 people.
It's now noticeable that the collapse in passenger numbers has slowed,if not stopped altogether,with many routes now drifting back to 3-bells (ie: Full Bus) during peaks.
It also appears that Government is unaware of the correlation between the recession,Public Transport and sustainability,as the message remains very firmly one of NO expansion in terms of routes,resources or ethos.
It's worth noting the seating capacity of the new GT class @ 68 as against the 72 of the RV's now being rapidly withdrawn....downsizing being taken to it's limits ?Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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In the course of a normal working week,I would regularly be in a position of having to dynamically manage my passenger load.
Depending upon the vehicle I'm driving,my pasengers could well have to distribute themselves back almost 12 metres and over 90 seats as well as various nooks and crannies to stand or lean against.
This invariably takes some time to happen,particularly with the single door operation,which is why I am a BIG (6`7") fan of multiple door operation.
For me,driving a bus is the easiest part of the job,the real work revolves around short-circuiting the vast propensity of most people to ignore the basic principle of Public Transport.....it's for The Public...as many of them as possible,which makes it downright devious and selfish to board a bus and immediately clamp oneself onto the luggage pen,thereby forcing every other passenger,boarding or alighting,to squeeze past you.
Added to this is the reluctance of folks to head upstairs when that location is empty,preferring to crowd around the bottom of the stairs to ensure that nobody else gets to enter the viewing lounge either.
These elements and more all conspire to ensure that I will leave several intending passengers goldfishing at some stops,but that,s the nature of the beast I'm afraid.
Unfortunately,capacity issues are now cropping up on many routes as the effects of a fleet reduction of c.200 vehicles and 350 drivers finally percolates through.
If those 200 buses were available for peak requirements it would provide a spot capacity of c.14,800 people.
It's now noticeable that the collapse in passenger numbers has slowed,if not stopped altogether,with many routes now drifting back to 3-bells (ie: Full Bus) during peaks.
It also appears that Government is unaware of the correlation between the recession,Public Transport and sustainability,as the message remains very firmly one of NO expansion in terms of routes,resources or ethos.
It's worth noting the seating capacity of the new GT class @ 68 as against the 72 of the RV's now being rapidly withdrawn....downsizing being taken to it's limits ?
I hate the clampers who block everyone, I tend to try and drop the shoulder slightly into them as I go past accidentally.
With regard to the downstairs standees, I have to say I used to hear drivers say quite regularly - seats upstairs, please move upstairs - but haven't heard that in ages, suppose with the proliferation of ipods/mp3 players they mightn't be heard now.
Do you think the new buses with the monitors at the bottom of the stairs have helped in that regard? Or have you not had a new bus yet?
Also if the middle doors were being opened at all it might discourage people from congregating near them.0 -
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Special mention must go to those who neglect to take off a backpack while boarding/standing on the bus.For me,driving a bus is the easiest part of the job,the real work revolves around short-circuiting the vast propensity of most people to ignore the basic principle of Public Transport.....it's for The Public...as many of them as possible,which makes it downright devious and selfish to board a bus and immediately clamp oneself onto the luggage pen,thereby forcing every other passenger,boarding or alighting,to squeeze past you.
Added to this is the reluctance of folks to head upstairs when that location is empty,preferring to crowd around the bottom of the stairs to ensure that nobody else gets to enter the viewing lounge either.
I noticed signs forbidding this in Bratislava (or maybe it was Budapest) 0 -
Nobody's saying it is.Wasn't trying to be obnoxious just gave an opinion as you would on a forum and got verbal abuse back. I had to defend myself in some way.
I like many people Im sure who have had situations at bus stops, there were many times where I have ran for the bus and got to the door and had the door closed in my face and ingored. I guess thats ok as well.
I'm very familiar with the feeling, believe me.Dont have a personal gripe against bus men/women as i have a couple of friends who are bus drivers and there sound people, I just felt for the person who had probably just waited 20 minutes for a bus to get to work and be told after 8 people getting off that he couldnt get on, I can understand his frustration.
I will repeat that you know nothing of the reasons for the bus driver in question doing what he did.For the people who beleive life is just black and white and rules are stook to by everyone, I find that quite funny. There are many situations in life where people shall we say bend the rules slightly if it suits but when we have disussions like this being right is all that counts and human empathy goes out the window.
Thanks for apologising. Of course I shouldn't have resorted to personal abuse, but I find it immensely frustrating when people make comments like "should be struck for a day without pay". It's just really not your place to pass down judgements like that. Where's the "human empathy" in your jumping to conclusions about the motivation of the driver? Also, I'm not a bus driver, nor do I know any. Accusations of that nature are extremely childish and demonstrate a very poor capacity for debate.Anyway I apologise for sounding a bit obnoxious or arrogant in this instance, was defo not trying to be.0 -
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