Overhead Pulling

pakalasa

Is it now illegal to pull high on a dropping ball in hurling? I was at a match recently and the ref pulled for it. Now to me it was a high, clean pull. In the old days, if the guy had his hand up, that was his problem. You were perfectly entitled to pull. It seems to have changed now. Anyone know the exact rule on it?

construct06

Was that at the Clare Co. final. I noticed the ref blowing for that alright. I dont think it is illegal and the ball was there, up to defending player to protect himself. Ref was v poor and didnt allow game to flow at all.

nice_guy80

definitely allowed
though the player has to track the ball in flight, and the follow through should never be down onto the opposing player (which is where the problems occur)

randd1

nice_guy80 wrote: »

definitely allowed
though the player has to track the ball in flight, and the follow through should never be down onto the opposing player (which is where the problems occur)

Aye, some guys tend to pull down on top of a guys head, a kind of downward slap if you will, which is where the confusion creeps in as that's a foul (to my knowledge anyway).

But when you pull on the ball, with eyes only for the ball and only the ball, then you're perfectly allowed to do so.

Unfortunately you can't account for fussy refs.

pakalasa

construct06 wrote: »

Was that at the Clare Co. final. I noticed the ref blowing for that alright. I dont think it is illegal and the ball was there, up to defending player to protect himself. Ref was v poor and didnt allow game to flow at all.

...That's exactly where I saw it. Bad refereering alright. No wonder Clare Hurling has gone so soft.

Clareman

You're allowed pull on the ball, but you aren't allowed "interfere" with an opponent, what happens in a lot of cases is when the ball is dropped 1 of the players will jostle their opponent to get some space, usually in the form of a frontal challenge.

To me pulling on the ball in the air is 1 of the best skills in the game, both for the person pulling and the person trying to defend themselves from the pull, everyone is thought to keep their eye on the ball when pulling and you won't forget to put your hurley up with your hand a second time (as I look down at my crocked fingers )

cat in the sack

its a skill that is gone out of the game thats why you see so many lads catching it now, there were some lovely stickmen who were great at it
JBM of Cork, big Christy with kilkenny, John Troy of offaly was sweet as a nut at it but its gone from the game now.

Squidgy Black

In recent years it's lead to a load of lads with broken fingers etc from poor protection and just lads completely missing the ball and hitting the player. At juvenile level they seem to be cutting it out, but I now see loads of lads never sticking the hurl behind the hurl which is silly carry on.

cormac halpin

Depends on where his balls are I guess.

SeaFields

In any matches I was playing in the refs, by and large, seem to be good at reading whether a fella genuinely was pulling on the ball or had the full intention of following through to do some damage.

tippman26

its the best lads who can inflict the damage while connecting with the ball,thats the real talent.nothing like seeing the opposing player look down at his hand when the ball has been cleared.

pakalasa

I've seen it a few times in local club games, with maybe 4 or 5 lads under a dropping ball, all standing there with theirs hands up trying to catch the ball. No one pulling. Not even a hurley up for protection. Big change from a few years back, where they'd take your hand off, if you did that.

Squidgy Black

There's was a beaut of an overhead pull in the Kilmacud and Oulart the Ballagh game, Kilmacud player went up for it and the Oulart player caught the ball cleanly. It's the dirty strokes like lads not going for the ball and just taking a fellas head and hand out of it that ruin it.