turning up tractors hp?

f140

was talking to a fellow today about tractors and was telling him what tractors i had and i was saying that one was a fiat f140 and then he was telling me there a great bus and you would easily get 180+hp out of them. i then told him i had it since new and never went near it in that regard. how exactly are these tractors turned up? Is it only turboed tractors which can be turned up or can non turbo ones also be turned up? I also have a fiat 110-90 non turbo - could that be turned up? I have no intention by the way but am just interested as to how its done. Is it just a case that the tractor revs up more or what?

yellow50HX

I know that fellas round here in the 90's used to soup up seris 10 Fords by putting the pumps and injectors from the larger tractors. 8210 into 7610s tw15 into 8210 and so on. While the power went up so too did the fuel consumption. Some lads went a bit over the top and it fried some of them. Once saw the pistons melted on a 8210 after it was fitted it with tw35 equipment.

Conor556

I think it is just a few turns of a screw on the fuel pump.

freedominacup

Conor556 wrote: »

I think it is just a few turns of a screw on the fuel pump.

Can be done by skilled operator using a dynaometer. But even done by someone who knows what they are doing not usually a good idea. The engine may have more capacity than is being used. They don't usually use one block for only one engine output. But the rest of the tractor may not be able for the extra power, back end problems, gearbox trouble etc. One of the neighbours was at it wholesale in the nineties but it never ended well. He got more power but the tractors lifespan was significantly reduced usually ending in some sort of fairly spectacular engine or back-end failure requiring big spends to get the machine into some sort of condition to allow him to trade it.

pakalasa

Gearbox and drives are matched to the torque output of the engine. Upping this will overload all these. Not a good idea, I'd say.

Conor556

freedominacup wrote: »

Can be done by skilled operator using a dynaometer. But even done by someone who knows what they are doing not usually a good idea. The engine may have more capacity than is being used. They don't usually use one block for only one engine output. But the rest of the tractor may not be able for the extra power, back end problems, gearbox trouble etc. One of the neighbours was at it wholesale in the nineties but it never ended well. He got more power but the tractors lifespan was significantly reduced usually ending in some sort of fairly spectacular engine or back-end failure requiring big spends to get the machine into some sort of condition to allow him to trade it.

I didnt ever do it nor will I do it in the future, if I need more power ill buy a bigger tractor.

keep going

as a man that used to run alot of fords said"worst tool in any box is a thirteen spanner":D

freedominacup

keep going wrote: »

as a man that used to run alot of fords said"worst tool in any box is a thirteen spanner":D

It depends on what type of tool you're talking about and what it's up to in said box.:D

iverjohnston

A friend bought a Ford 8210, which had been fitted with a TW15 engine. Absolute beast to pull, but in 540 PTO mode, it would wring the shaft from the flywheel about every 6 weeks, or, for variety, chew the "teeth" off the clutch disks in the PTO pack. Not so bad in 1000 rev mode, but still happened every 6 months or so. Various bodges,like machining the shaft to fit into an air impact socket, which on turn was welded into the flywheel............ none were long term successfull. He still has it, but can't use on a mower conditioner or harvester. We are sick telling him to flog it and buy a real TW15, but its like talking to the wall........
He bought a Fendt, and has had 2 gearbox rebuilds and an enging rebuild. Sooner or later , Deere!
Iver in Cavan

yellow50HX

iverjohnston wrote: »

A friend bought a Ford 8210, which had been fitted with a TW15 engine. Absolute beast to pull, but in 540 PTO mode, it would wring the shaft from the flywheel about every 6 weeks, or, for variety, chew the "teeth" off the clutch disks in the PTO pack. Not so bad in 1000 rev mode, but still happened every 6 months or so. Various bodges,like machining the shaft to fit into an air impact socket, which on turn was welded into the flywheel............ none were long term successfull. He still has it, but can't use on a mower conditioner or harvester. We are sick telling him to flog it and buy a real TW15, but its like talking to the wall........
He bought a Fendt, and has had 2 gearbox rebuilds and an enging rebuild. Sooner or later , Deere!
Iver in Cavan

Yeah it's great for pulling. But not geared for pto work though. Have used that machining the shaft trick before, it's a lot cheaper then buying and fitting a new shaft.