Can my g/f claim anything?

asherbassad

Is my girlfriend entitled to any kind of job seekers allowance?

I am working....she moved here to live with me. She has no work but obviously I provide a roof over her head. She is looking for work all the time. In the meantime is she entitled to receive any benefits/dole?

edellc

asherbassad wrote: »

Is my girlfriend entitled to any kind of job seekers allowance?

I am working....she moved here to live with me. She has no work but obviously I provide a roof over her head. She is looking for work all the time. In the meantime is she entitled to receive any benefits/dole?

If she has enough credits she can claim jsb if not she can be means tested against your income and may be entitled to some form if jsa

asherbassad

edellc wrote: »

If she has enough credits she can claim jsb if not she can be means tested against your income and may be entitled to some form if jsa

There's the question. She worked in fulltime employment in the UK up until 2002. Then she went freelance (self employed) in another country and so only paid tax in that country (EU) but no SS contributions. Do the "credits" up to 2002 count or are they way out of date?

asherbassad

I mean, what would the situation be if she was NOT my girlfriend...just a friend who I was letting crash until she found a place/job of her own?

schemingbohemia

You mean lie?

Esoteric_

asherbassad wrote: »

I mean, what would the situation be if she was NOT my girlfriend...just a friend who I was letting crash until she found a place/job of her own?

That situation is called fraud. Are you in a high or medium income job? If you're in a fairly low income job, she may be entitled to something. As a side note, her application for JSB would be based on tax contributions and earnings in 2010, so pre 2002 wouldn't count as far as I know.

Forest Demon

Residence requirements for social assistance in Ireland

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/social_assistance_payments/residency_requirements_for_social_assistance_in_ireland.html

mp22

She may apply for JSA but your income will be means tested against her claim.

Your spouse's, civil partner's or cohabitant's income from employment is assessed in the means test for Jobseeker’s Allowance.
Their income from work is assessed in the same way as your income from work (if any). To work out what your spouse's, civil partner's or cohabitant's means from work is:

• Deduct €20 per day from your spouse's, civil partner's or cohabitant's assessable earnings for each day worked up to a maximum of €60 (including Sunday)
• Next get 60% of the balance. This is assessed as his or her weekly means from work.

Assessable weekly earnings - €20 per day (maximum €60 for 3 days work) = total x 60% = weekly means from work.


http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html#lee4ad

edellc

asherbassad wrote: »

There's the question. She worked in fulltime employment in the UK up until 2002. Then she went freelance (self employed) in another country and so only paid tax in that country (EU) but no SS contributions. Do the "credits" up to 2002 count or are they way out of date?

2002 is well out of date so what she would be looking for is jsa which is means tested against your salary. she will need to go to the swo and speak to someone there, who will give her the necessary forms to fill out

have a look at the link below
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/jobseekers_allowance.html

as regards to the fraud mentioned above and her crashing on your sofa, dont be stupid as the inspectors are not

mrsbyrne

If she has recently returned to Ireland after being away for ten years or so, she is very unlikely to fulfill the Habitual Residence Condition which is part of the JSA process without a massive fight on her hands. Thats ever before they means test her against your income.
If she were not your girlfriend, and had just arrived back here unattached, she would have even less chance of passing the HRC.

Equality

If she is a friend who is staying at your place, she is unlikely to fulfil the habitual residence.

If she is your spouse/partner, then she shares her habitual residence with you, and as you are working that most likely solves her habitual residence issues. If you as her partner are habitually resident, then it means she is probably ok from that point of view.

However, the means test for JA takes your income into account, as described elsewhere.

Contributions up to 2002 count in order to meet the minimum number of contributions required. This applies if paid in Ireland or UK or EU or lots of places really.

What she is missing is 'recent' cons - cons from 2 years ago. Based on her being self employed, she is unlikely to qualify for benefit, as she does not have recent cons, so all that is left is a means tested payment.

mrsbyrne

There appears to be some confusion on this thread about what we mean when we talk about the Habitual Residence Condition.
We dont mean the house where you are currently resident, and your relationship, or lack of, with other housemates. It is far more complex than that. Please see below.
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/social_assistance_payments/residency_requirements_for_social_assistance_in_ireland.html

Nicky30

Unfortunately she would be entitled to nothing.

It would be fraudulent to try to pretend that your girlfriend is just a flatmate, and difficult to prove; a lot of questions were asked of my flatmate when he was applying for a payment, even though there are three of us here and three bedrooms, still had to prove I wasn't his girlfriend.

Your girlfriend may be entitled to means tested JSA; depending on your earnings. I was cohabiting last year and got 100 a week DA means tested on my ex's wages. It would be worth applying in any case.