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Nuts.

  • 25-10-2012 1:12am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭


    Alrite fellas,

    I royally ****ed up changing a nut on a geetar of mine

    29721230948.jpg
    (I'm sure some of you just winced at that)

    Now there's a little bit missing there alrite but there seems to be quite enough wood there to get the nut in in a normal manor rather unaffected but probably best to get it fixed...

    What am I looking at to getting this nut sorted!?

    Fixing this guitar up so probably looking at a the nut sorted, a setup, 3 pups installed to a selector switch, jack, killswitch and 1 volume knob and that's about it really maybe a cover of clearcoat on the pickgaurd to save the design I have on it

    29721261476.jpg

    Any ballpark figures/recommendations on who can do a decent reasonable job!? Any experiences with getting a guitar pretty much sorted!? probably need a Luthier type fellow for it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭wild turkey


    you could always take a chisel to it & fit a gibson type nut something like the pacifica has

    something like in the page below

    http://www.saunalahti.fi/laxu/pics/yamaha_pacifica_812wx-06.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    wont affect the playability of the guitar one tiny little bit.

    pretty much every acoustic out there has a nut that just butts against the end of the fretboard rather than resting in a slot.

    don't sweat it, just get a new nut the right width and drop it in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    aye indeed my acoustic's the same usually falls off actually if i change the strings

    just wondering shud i fix it up and what would i be lookin at to get some work done ill ccheck around for some quotes n sh!t


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭steveone


    chisel it out and fit floyd rose locking nut. they bolt on thru two holes drilled into the neck....eh and it would lock your tuning...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Doc_Savage


    steveone wrote: »
    chisel it out and fit floyd rose locking nut. they bolt on thru two holes drilled into the neck....eh and it would lock your tuning...

    ....it would lock it out of tune.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    Harsh!!

    true, but harsh :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    I defo shoudn't chisel it out! Wasn't gona lock it but might go down the wilkinson trem route some stage but for now it's grand

    I have all the bits for it just a matter of sticking it together


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    golden rule,don't re-apply with super glue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    WHY NOT?

    Super glue would be PERFECT to reattach the parts. I use it for all sorts of jobs like this, as well as reattaching rosette parts, cracked nuts & saddles and holding in inlay dots on the fretboard.

    have a look at Stewmac.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    I think excessive super glue would be the key

    A teeny bit is prob ok!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    WHY NOT?

    Super glue would be PERFECT to reattach the parts. I use it for all sorts of jobs like this, as well as reattaching rosette parts, cracked nuts & saddles and holding in inlay dots on the fretboard.

    have a look at Stewmac.com

    Try take a nut off where it super glue has been applied and tell me the result.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    -=al=- wrote: »

    Fixing this guitar up so probably looking at a the nut sorted, a setup, 3 pups installed to a selector switch, jack, killswitch and 1 volume knob and that's about it really maybe a cover of clearcoat on the pickgaurd to save the design I have on it

    Any ballpark figures/recommendations on who can do a decent reasonable job!? Any experiences with getting a guitar pretty much sorted!? probably need a Luthier type fellow for it

    A luthier type would probably cost you a few bob to get it done. Get yourself a cheap soldering iron, bit of solder, and a few meters of wire and you'll get it done yourself for €30. Plus it will be way more rewarding, and you'll teach yourself how to fix pretty much any hardware issue which may arise on your guitars in the future.

    Granted it will probably take you a lot longer to get her sorted, but it will stand to you in the long run. FWIW I remember asking about getting pickups re-soldered and was quoted in the region of €50. That was only one guy though, I don't know if there is such thing as a going rate.

    Nice pickguard design BTW, throw up a few pics of the finished product when you get it all put together, whatever you decide to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭-=al=-


    Think i got them fixed for 30 quid before somewhere in the old muician inc but haven't got em changed in yonks

    The thing is I tried to give it a go myself but the soldering iron i have is a load of balls I've already f'd the thing up enough trying to do it myself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    Try take a nut off where it super glue has been applied and tell me the result.
    I do it all the time. Score around the join with a craft knife. Quick tap with a fret hammer. Nut pops off. Job done*.


















    *note: job only started....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,679 ✭✭✭hidinginthebush


    -=al=- wrote: »
    Think i got them fixed for 30 quid before somewhere in the old muician inc but haven't got em changed in yonks

    The thing is I tried to give it a go myself but the soldering iron i have is a load of balls I've already f'd the thing up enough trying to do it myself!

    Yeah that's the problem alright, I remember the first thing I soldered was when I did loads of mods to my epi valve junior. It ended up sounding incredible, but I had to revisit a few months later and nearly re-do every joint I did, when done poorly they're more a hindrance than anything. Have a gander at some online tutorials on how to solder, all you really have to remember is to get everything heated with the iron before you apply the solder.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    endacl wrote: »
    I do it all the time. Score around the join with a craft knife. Quick tap with a fret hammer. Nut pops off. Job done*.


















    *note: job only started....
    i find it very hard to believe you don't lift wood with the nut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    i find it very hard to believe you don't lift wood with the nut.
    It'll usually pop with a sharp tap. I use a small piece of hardwood to 'transfer' the tap. If it doesn't come off straight away I'll apply a little heat by dipping a piece of kitchen towel in boiling water, squeezing out ALL of the excess and pressing it to the nut for a few seconds. I never need to do this if the right amount of CA glue has been used in the first place. A small dot at each end of the nut is all that's needed to hold it in place (if any is needed at all -better if the nut slot has been cut to the right width in the first place...). The string tension does the rest.

    If the nut slot has been drowned in glue, its a little trickier. More heat and more taps. From all available angles. Gentle, persistent taps, mind! After a while the glue will give up and just kind of 'shatter'.

    Give it a try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭martinedwards


    superglue isn't ACTUALLY that strong, especially to lateral shock.

    what was described above is spot on.


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