Humax HDR FOX T2

Souriau

I bought a new HDR and surprised to see subtitles on RTE channels when their subtitles are not DVB format
This box is build to UK D Book spec so how come it can received Teletext subtitles?
Never the less, I am happy that it can show and record RTE subtitles.
I see no issue with EPG with the two systems, Freeview and Saorview

I will list any others points and issue here if I see any

BBC HD, UTV HD and CH.4 HD is very good
along with RTE2 HD, all transmitting in 1080i

Souriau

While playing around with the menu system to get to know it better
I was doing a manual tune for RTE Cairn Hill, E47 and then I click on Network search and start the search
What I saw next was that it start on E47, 682000 kHz then search for other frequency in the following order
198500 kHz
177500 kHz
184500 kHz
191500 kHz
205500 kHz
212500 kHz
209500 kHz
then it goes into UHF frequency but I stop it there as the first UHF is 21 474000, and that is Divis frequency for D3&4
so it seem this STB does have VHF tuner but I can't directly access the VHF tuner in the manual searcn, the lowest E number is 21 or 474000 kHz.
Then again I am not sure it got a working VHF tuner as I am not in a VHF signal area so maybe someone in Dublin or other area that is transmitting VHF could try to see it that work...

As for the time, I don't see any issue but the STB was set up having the correct time installed, so wait and see when the time change and then I will know maybe when summer time finish this month, or maybe it is an issue next year when GMT end and summer time start, I have to wait and see

Recording from Saorview and Freeview by using EPG
so far all is good, recording any programs I asked for from EPG and having using two tuners, 1 for recording RTE2HD and the other was recording BBC1HD
loading the EPG data when on Freeview was already there but none from Saorview
when scroll down to 800 where RTE channels are and no data for any channels from Saorview, just press enter and the data load up quickly while in EPG.

No serial link recording yet on Saorview

Souriau

Software version - FHTCP-1.02.29

Iderown

Also have HUMAX HDR-FOX T2. Located in Bangor, County Down.
Accessible transmitters here are: Divis, Black Mountain (for NIMUX), Clermont Carn and Bangor.
Software version is FHTCP 1.02.26 - not updated (yet).

It performs fine. Seems to place the stronger detected signals in the main part of the EPG. Divis happens to be fractionally weaker than Bangor relay just here. Divis duplicate channels get put in the 800s along with RTÉ channels from CC.

Would prefer to totally wipe out Bangor MUXes and use Divis only. Trying to do this results in annoying popups informing of "more services available - re-scan now?". Herself did a re-scan and deleted all her scheduled recordings. Not happy.

Would like to know how to stop this popup.

It would probably be nice to know how to disable any "over the air" updating of the software.

mrdtv2010

Iderown wrote: »

Also have HUMAX HDR-FOX T2. Located in Bangor, County Down.
Accessible transmitters here are: Divis, Black Mountain (for NIMUX), Clermont Carn and Bangor.
Software version is FHTCP 1.02.26 - not updated (yet).

It performs fine. Seems to place the stronger detected signals in the main part of the EPG. Divis happens to be fractionally weaker than Bangor relay just here. Divis duplicate channels get put in the 800s along with RTÉ channels from CC.

Would prefer to totally wipe out Bangor MUXes and use Divis only. Trying to do this results in annoying popups informing of "more services available - re-scan now?". Herself did a re-scan and deleted all her scheduled recordings. Not happy.

Would like to know how to stop this popup.

It would probably be nice to know how to disable any "over the air" updating of the software.

This is all in the installation menus: use manual tuning for Divis and CC. Wipe the receiver completely and do manual tuning. The popups will stop in two weeks time on 7th November. Its a known issue with the HDR T2 that if you autoretune you lose all the timers. Take a look at myhumax.org.uk

After doing manual tuning of Divis and CC, switch network search to OFF in the manual tuning field. No more autorescans.

Millsy47

I have a hd fox t2 and would like to upgrade to an hdr, but would like to know if you can record a Freeview program and a Saorview program from the EPG at the same time. Do both programs record.
I have heard that the Sony hdr cant do this.

Thankyou in advance.

Mr. Rabbit

Millsy47 wrote: »

I have a hd fox t2 and would like to upgrade to an hdr, but would like to know if you can record a Freeview program and a Saorview program from the EPG at the same time. Do both programs record.
I have heard that the Sony hdr cant do this.

Thankyou in advance.

I have both the HD fox t2 and the HDR fox t2 (1GB model)

No problems with Saorview or Freeview on either, other than not necessarily putting the strongest freeview channels in the correct order after a rescan. I receive both Divis and Carnmoney Hill (off a C.C. aerial), but a manual scan solves the problem.

I have recorded Saorview programmes and viewed Freeview and it does this with no problems. I'll try doing what you've suggested (i.e. record both Saorview and Freeiew) and see if there are any issues.

It certainly shouldn't be a problem with the NI mux.

Mr. Rabbit

Its a known issue with the HDR T2 that if you autoretune you lose all the timers

This seems to be a problem with most Freeview PVRs.

Mr. Rabbit

Would prefer to totally wipe out Bangor MUXes and use Divis only. Trying to do this results in annoying popups informing of "more services available - re-scan now?". Herself did a re-scan and deleted all her scheduled recordings. Not happy.

A manual tune resolves this issue and will put Divis at 1,2,3,4, etc. and Bangor in the 800's (above Saorview.). Simply do a manual retune and then press save. It'sa a simple as that.

You shouldn't get any more "more channels available" messages after you do this.

mrdtv2010

Mr. Rabbit wrote: »

A manual tune resolves this issue and will put Divis at 1,2,3,4, etc. and Bangor in the 800's (above Saorview.). Simply do a manual retune and then press save. It'sa a simple as that.

You shouldn't get any more "more channels available" messages after you do this.

You must also set network search to off as I posted upthread.

Iderown

Thanks, folks. Did a "Factory install". Seems to have done the trick. Did auto scan without power to the group C/D (Clermont Carn) masthead amp. Followed by manual scan of E52 only with amp powered. Then put "Network search" to off.

Millsy47 said, "but would like to know if you can record a Freeview program and a Saorview program from the EPG at the same time. Do both programs record."

Yes, both will record simultaneously. There are restrictions concerning which channels you can watch while the recordings are in progress. You can watch only channels which are on the same multiplexes as the pair that you are recording.

Thanks again. Norm

Millsy47

To Iderown thanks for that.
Humax seems to be the best of the bunch, real slick compared to the rest. Fast to respond, EPG populates quickly.
Comes at a price premium but i think its worth it.

dbcool

hi i hope yo buy the fox hdr and all you've said on this thread has helped me - but there's one thing i'd like to know and i hope you could check it for me - can the fox hdr pause live radio? i often like to listen to talksport and being able to pause it would really make this a perfect purchase! could you check and see if you can pause channel 723 talksport and play it again from the paused point after about 5 seconds?

Iderown

dbcool wrote: »

can the fox hdr pause live radio? i often like to listen to talksport and being able to pause it

Yes, dbcool. The HUMAX FOX T2 recording facilities have the same features on radio as on television channels.
You can see an overview of the PVR here. There is a link to the full owner's manual which can be downloaded.

One thing which delighted me about this kit is the ability to move video files from the internal hard drive to a flash drive in the USB port. These fies are then playable/editable in Windows Movie Maker.
LIkewise, computer generated files in WMV format can be copied on to the HDD and played on the HUMAX again via a flash drive in the USB port.
I have no interest, financial or other, in HUMAX products.

dbcool

thanks mate!

its the pausing radio glithly or is it 100% ?


i'm really grateful for this info!


i have a poland satellite card and it will let me add the talksport commentary to the picture!

dubmick

OP, do you mind me asking where you bought this box? Not seeing any availability online

stanley1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humax-HDR-FOX-T2-Freeview-Recorder/dp/B004BMB2XC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351513296&sr=8-1

Free delivery, nice piece of kit.

dubmick

stanley1 wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humax-HDR-FOX-T2-Freeview-Recorder/dp/B004BMB2XC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351513296&sr=8-1

Free delivery, nice piece of kit.

thanks for that, the one I am looking for has no DVR function

stanley1

ebay.de have a few, 161+ 24 delivery.

Iderown

We got the HUMAX-FOX T2 at PC World.

mstewie

Bought this box for the parents last Christmas and it has been great. I inherited their old Sagemcom RTI90 PVR box and it is terrible. Apart from it being very slow, the epg channel info doesn't work and Irish characters in the epg itself don't display properly.

Souriau

dubmick wrote: »

OP, do you mind me asking where you bought this box? Not seeing any availability online

Amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004NEKNEM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Mr Cumulonimbus

Souriau wrote: »

loading the EPG data when on Freeview was already there but none from Saorview
when scroll down to 800 where RTE channels are and no data for any channels from Saorview, just press enter and the data load up quickly while in EPG.

Bought of these today and noticed this too. If you are on a Saorview channel when in the EPG, the EPG is blank for Freeview channels until you select one. After doing this the EPG then goes blank for the Saorview channels.

Not a major issue for me though. It's a very nice box.

Souriau

Yes, it is not an issue for me but the main thing is that it can record from either EPG data given to the program.
Saorview and Freeview can be record without any problem

zg3409

Have you tried selecting say a Saorview program in say 6 days time, then put the box only on a freeview channel and then go to EPG. As the EPG for Saorview would be blank would the recording still work?

I.e. Does it save the date and time of the recording for use days later even if it does not have any EPG info on the channel at the time will it still record reliably?

Also similarly if recording set and left on Freeview channel will it come out of standby to record at the right time?

Mr Cumulonimbus

zg3409 wrote: »

Have you tried selecting say a Saorview program in say 6 days time, then put the box only on a freeview channel and then go to EPG. As the EPG for Saorview would be blank would the recording still work?

I.e. Does it save the date and time of the recording for use days later even if it does not have any EPG info on the channel at the time will it still record reliably?

Also similarly if recording set and left on Freeview channel will it come out of standby to record at the right time?

I set a recording in both Saorview and Freeview for programmes about 10 minutes or so ahead in the EPG. When flicking between both, the EPG goes blank on one and then the other as already stated, but the recording timing indicator is still there on the EPG when you return to either Saorview or Freeview. The box is now recording. I'll update the post after checking to see if they were recorded successfully.

Souriau

I will try that
I am recording some program on Freeview and will end shortly, it will go into standby and hope it will kick in to record The Bill on RTE2 in few hours time when the tuner was last connected to Freeview EPG

Mr Cumulonimbus

The programme I set to record on BBC1 at 22:45 (David Meade, Make Believe) recorded successfully.

However the recording I set on RTE2HD (News at 22:50) failed to record. There's a message: "Recording failed: unable to track programme".

What does this mean?

Souriau

that's strange as none of my recording on Saorview had failed.

Mr Cumulonimbus

Interesting. It seems to be an issue though. Thread over on Digital Spy that discussed it. Seems to be a problem with a feature called Accurate Recording.

Fix seems to be to set a start padding and an end padding time. Just means you get the box to start and finish the recording before and after the times in the EPG.

Can be accessed via Menu>Settings>Preferences>Recording.

Mr Cumulonimbus

Heres another link to a forum called "hummy tv". Its a detailed post about accurate recording, padding etc.

Souriau

I checked the Humax this morning and see that it had recorded The Bill on RTE2 successfully from standby.
Last night setup was to record Attack Force on Channel 5, Freeview EPG and then The Bill on RTE2, Saorview EPG.
Both was set up via the EPG then the box was put into standby.
This morning I find both programms was successfully recorded so I can't see any issue yet.

Mr Cumulonimbus

Souriau wrote: »

I checked the Humax this morning and see that it had recorded The Bill on RTE2 successfully from standby.
Last night setup was to record Attack Force on Channel 5, Freeview EPG and then The Bill on RTE2, Saorview EPG.
Both was set up via the EPG then the box was put into standby.
This morning I find both programms was successfully recorded so I can't see any issue yet.

Good to hear. Reading through the DS thread, it seems to be an intermittent issue. Some people were fine, while others had a whole series of failed recordings, but when they padded the recordings, the issue didn't occur again. I've set the padding on mine to start 2 minutes before the time in the EPG and to end 5 minutes after.

Souriau

Mr Cumulonimbus wrote: »

Good to hear. Reading through the DS thread, it seems to be an intermittent issue. Some people were fine, while others had a whole series of failed recordings, but when they padded the recordings, the issue didn't occur again. I've set the padding on mine to start 2 minutes before the time in the EPG and to end 5 minutes after.

Only problem you will face, IMHO, is that when the broadcaster change the time or delay it or extend the running time, the padded setting will ignore that and just do what you want, your start and end time setting
So you could be recording a program that is not what you want or only getting part of it, but mostly should be OK

I'm no expert but could this problem some people having is due to poor signal quality, i.e over amplified or single too weak, just on borderline...?

Mr Cumulonimbus

Souriau wrote: »

Only problem you will face, IMHO, is that when the broadcaster change the time or delay it or extend the running time, the padded setting will ignore that and just do what you want, your start and end time setting
So you could be recording a program that is not what you want or only getting part of it, but mostly should be OK

I'm no expert but could this problem some people having is due to poor signal quality, i.e over amplified or single too weak, just on borderline...?

Reading the DS thread no single cause is/was identified. One that popped up though was the box taking its channels from 2 different masts, with the channels from a weaker Freeview source being duplicated in the 800's. It was said this could cause such issues. Here the Saorview channels would be in the 800's. Another was the broadcaster not transmitting the required signal to allow the box to prepare to record.

I wouldn't be too worried about the padded setting causing a delayed or moved programme being missed. I dont record that much, maybe the odd Premier Soccer Saturday or Match of the Day. I have cancelled my Sky subscription (ends Dec 16th), so I wanted a twin tuner PVR that could record from Saorview and Freeview.

Souriau

Serial link is working on Humax HDR-FOX
RTE1+1 and RTE jr

Souriau

Humax Country setting
I was able to change to Ireland and get the VHF tuner online
But there is no EBU teletext on TV3 or TG4, worth a try...

Souriau

I have notice that EBU teletext come up when playing back recording of TV3 and TG4 but not able to access Teletext during live transmission

swoofer

to get text on tv3 and tg4 you set the humax remote to control your tv, then when watching tv3 change remote to tv and press the opt+ button just above text and voila, works on tg4 as well. and if you press a few other buttons on remote it will mimic the tv remote, ie you have to experiment. I think I posted this elsewhere but cant remember.

Souriau

GBCULLEN wrote: »

to get text on tv3 and tg4 you set the humax remote to control your tv, then when watching tv3 change remote to tv and press the opt+ button just above text and voila, works on tg4 as well. and if you press a few other buttons on remote it will mimic the tv remote, ie you have to experiment. I think I posted this elsewhere but cant remember.

I tried your way above but nothing at all
but then I recalled Watty once said that HDMI stripped EBU Teletext from the picture transmission so I then got my old 21pin Scart lead and plug that it.
the EBU Teletext does work thru the Scart but not thru the HDMI on a live picture.
So after all this work, the TV3 Teletext is not worth the hassle to read, no good content on it for me to read and TG4, well, I can't read Irish so it is no big loss to me.

Newryrep

Like this PVR generally but am about to send back the 5th unit ! for noise issues. Intermttant disc drive noises are apparent withing 5 mins of switching on. Humax just keep sending me crap with the same problem despite repeated correspondance.

Unit 1 returned - noisey intermetant disc drive
Unit 2 - returned - as above
Unit 3 - worked fine for 3 months then packed in
Unit 4 - retruned noisey intermttant disc drive
Unit 5 - jut about to return - noisey intermittant disc drive

Has there been any noise issues with the 0.5 GB model ? I have the 1 TB one

Souriau

Have 2RN change something regarrding the LCN?
My Humax Fox T2 used to put 2RN Mux1 channels in the 800 range.
This week they are renumber now in the 300 range.
Have anyone else notice this?