Laundered diesel

ci985

So my reliable diesel supplier has gone into liquidation! Filled up
next door and the diesel is doing no mileage at all! Has anyone out there any idea of a source of good proper road diesel in the louth monaghan area as so many stations local are only selling laundered fuel and i'm sick at the thoughts of costly breakdowns at the hands of fooking gangsters!!

MugMugs

We can't tell you where is selling bad diesel but can tell you where we top up.... Are you north Louth? Dundalk?

ci985

Yeah not far from dundalk!! I dont want to know where the s##t fuel is only the good!! Thanks

Big Nasty

I know there are exceptions, especially in that neck of the woods, but as a general rule of thumb stick to franchised stations.

MugMugs

ci985 wrote: »

Yeah not far from dundalk!! I dont want to know where the s##t fuel is only the good!! Thanks

Rule of thumb is if the price is too good to be true it generally is.

I only ever use Top on the Carrick Road or the two Applegreens at Castlebellingham on the M1 ..... Personally....

rugbyman

the sort of filing station on the lisdoo road has a very good name for playing straight.

Rugbyman

Nissan doctor

I just wouldn't fill up anywhere in Louth.:eek:

ci985

Its gone to some pitch when you can not trust any filling station in the whole county!!
What a bunch of crooked toerags!! Is everyone just playing bingo as far as fuelling cars and vans go??
There must be a straight oil man somewhere but clearly they are hiding themselves very well!!
Think if I were selling good fuel i would be shouting it from rooftops!!!!

Bearcat

Nissan doctor wrote: »

I just wouldn't fill up anywhere in Louth.:eek:

Is it genuinely that bad as in the county awash with crap?

mdebets

ci985 wrote: »

Think if I were selling good fuel i would be shouting it from rooftops!!!!

I presume you would then get some visits at night from some balaclava wearing guys.

exador

This extends way past Louth. There has been a huge increase in problems relating to this and in particular in the past few weeks.

Stheno

exador wrote: »

This extends way past Louth. There has been a huge increase in problems relating to this and in particular in the past few weeks.

Is it really that widespread?

exador

In the past week or so I know of at least 6 cases where everthing points to bad fuel. All have had samples sent away to be tested.

tayto lover

You should be safe enough with Applegreen. Big companies would have too much to lose by selling laundered diesel.
On that point, how come with all the illegal diesel plants being discovered there has hardly been a garage prosecuted for selling it?
The customs should name and shame these outlets.

ABajaninCork

:eek: Does this extend to petrol as well as diesel??

Should I be worried, living in the South?

uck51js9zml2yt

I was reading today(or yesterday) that 25% of the diesel in NI is laundered.
sorry..dont have the link

exador

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be safe enough with Applegreen. Big companies would have too much to lose by selling laundered diesel.
On that point, how come with all the illegal diesel plants being discovered there has hardly been a garage prosecuted for selling it?
The customs should name and shame these outlets.

You would like to think so !!!!

Pdfile

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be safe enough with Applegreen. Big companies would have too much to lose by selling laundered diesel.
On that point, how come with all the illegal diesel plants being discovered there has hardly been a garage prosecuted for selling it?
The customs should name and shame these outlets.

one cannot simply name and shame them... but its weird even in dublin where when one customer complains about being short chaned either through dodgey fuel or not getting what they paid for... the garage has a sign up for a day or two " electronic error with the pumps, due back in serivce from xx/xx/12 "

its a nice con lads, think ill open a fruad shop soon.

RnR

Unknowingly bought dodgy diesel, in garage on Bolton Street Dublin 1.
Garage was unable and or unwilling to issue a vat receipt.
Wasn't a main brand.

Car repair bill over €600. Ouch.
Garage denied they would engage in such practice!
They no longer sell fuel.
Seems Revenue and Customs paid them a visit and shut the fuel selling down. Stick to the well known brands.

Tea 1000

mdebets wrote: »

I presume you would then get some visits at night from some balaclava wearing guys.

That's the problem. Scum.

ABajaninCork wrote: »

:eek: Does this extend to petrol as well as diesel??

Should I be worried, living in the South?

Apparently petrol is being found with excessive doses of ethanol in it too. Petrol won't be laundered because it's not dyed anywhere, but you can be sure there's different quality stuff.

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be safe enough with Applegreen. Big companies would have too much to lose by selling laundered diesel.
On that point, how come with all the illegal diesel plants being discovered there has hardly been a garage prosecuted for selling it?
The customs should name and shame these outlets.

Not always fair to name and shame, some decent fellas are being cornered into a position where they feel they have no choice. Catch the scum at the source I say.

Deise Vu

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Catch the scum at the source I say.

The simplest, most cost effective, cleanest and bloody pobvious solution is:

Don't put the friggin dye in there in the first place!!!!

The only people who gain legitimately from the current system are farmers. They are well capable of figuring out some other way to get compensated. Meantime, we wouldn't be funding the scum of the earth, polluting our environment, wrecking good engines and wrecking good haulage and diesel retail businesses nor wasting Garda and Custom time.

Simple and easy but a farmer might say boo to a TD so it won't happen.

langdang

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Apparently petrol is being found with excessive doses of ethanol in it too. Petrol won't be laundered because it's not dyed anywhere, but you can be sure there's different quality stuff.

Methanol I think - less checks on methanol I suppose, ethanol is probably scrutinised more to prevent people faking Vodka etc, duties due on bulk ethanol but not on methanol??? Guesswork on my behalf rather absolute "FACT!"

tayto lover

Pdfile wrote: »

one cannot simply name and shame them... but its weird even in dublin where when one customer complains about being short chaned either through dodgey fuel or not getting what they paid for... the garage has a sign up for a day or two " electronic error with the pumps, due back in serivce from xx/xx/12 "

its a nice con lads, think ill open a fruad shop soon.

Tea 1000 wrote: »

That's the problem. Scum.

Apparently petrol is being found with excessive doses of ethanol in it too. Petrol won't be laundered because it's not dyed anywhere, but you can be sure there's different quality stuff.

Not always fair to name and shame, some decent fellas are being cornered into a position where they feel they have no choice. Catch the scum at the source I say.

Naming and shaming would give any garage owner who is under pressure a great opportunity to get out from the clutches of these crooks. They could just tell them they are being inspected weekly and that would stop the practice.

cadaliac

Deise Vu wrote: »

The simplest, most cost effective, cleanest and bloody pobvious solution is:

Don't put the friggin dye in there in the first place!!!!

The only people who gain legitimately from the current system are farmers. They are well capable of figuring out some other way to get compensated. Meantime, we wouldn't be funding the scum of the earth, polluting our environment, wrecking good engines and wrecking good haulage and diesel retail businesses nor wasting Garda and Custom time.

Simple and easy but a farmer might say boo to a TD so it won't happen.

This.

tayto lover

cadaliac wrote: »

This.

How come farmers are the only people who gain from this.
The farmers are a very pampered lot with all the grants they get from this Govt and from Europe.
I know a few hauliers who are only barely surviving and they get no grants from the Govt. I know a lot of ordinary folk who could do with getting petrol cheaper too. Why do you have to be a farmer to get things on the cheap.

sligono1

what can the customs do with these stations,should you spend more time doing random checks on the stations and be more severe with the penaltys if caught,
a well known fuel supplier down my way was caught he got a fine and i think closed for two or three days,if they were closed for a month and heavy fines perhaps this murkey trade could be left less lucrative,and might go away

MugMugs

exador wrote: »

You would like to think so !!!!

Yes, you would.... I refuse to believe that any of their pumps could be questioned.

nice_guy80

tayto lover wrote: »

How come farmers are the only people who gain from this.
The farmers are a very pampered lot with all the grants they get from this Govt and from Europe.
I know a few hauliers who are only barely surviving and they get no grants from the Govt. I know a lot of ordinary folk who could do with getting petrol cheaper too. Why do you have to be a farmer to get things on the cheap.

the farmers get grants because most of them cannot make a profit on their farms and to keep them producing food
simple as

dgt

ABajaninCork wrote: »

:eek: Does this extend to petrol as well as diesel??

Should I be worried, living in the South?

After this happened to me, I bought very little petrol in the south after that

ci985

Methanol and kero in petrol washed diesel with god only knows what acids left in it!!
4-5000 euro fine if im caught driving on green! Good whitfe diesel as rare as hens teeth!
Another week gone a car and a van to fill and no idea where to go!! Reckon i will try tesco
see what its like!! Mileage has always been down with applegreen!! Does anyone know can diesel
bought direct from the port in dublin in say 1 to 2000 litre amounts?

dgt

ci985 wrote: »

Methanol and kero in petrol washed diesel with god only knows what acids left in it!!
4-5000 euro fine if im caught driving on green! Good whitfe diesel as rare as hens teeth!
Another week gone a car and a van to fill and no idea where to go!! Reckon i will try tesco
see what its like!! Mileage has always been down with applegreen!! Does anyone know can diesel
bought direct from the port in dublin in say 1 to 2000 litre amounts?

I work in Tescos and my goodness I'd run away from their fuel! Everyday Value Diesel anyone? :pac::pac::pac:

Texaco or Esso I find to be fairly good down here

MidlandsM

tayto lover wrote: »

You should be safe enough with Applegreen. .

god no, that crowd have a reputation for bad diesel......

Ronnie Beck

dgt wrote: »

I work in Tescos and my goodness I'd run away from their fuel! Everyday Value Diesel anyone? :pac::pac::pac:

Texaco or Esso I find to be fairly good down here

I don't use anything except texaco or esso diesel.

Nissan doctor

mdebets wrote: »

I presume you would then get some visits at night from some balaclava wearing guys.

This is the issue, laundered diesel is a way of making money for other organisations in most cases, especially around the boarder counties and its very much the case that some station owners are getting told that they are selling this fuel by people they dare not cross.

pa990

Amara Petite Suds wrote: »

I was reading today(or yesterday) that 25% of the diesel in NI is laundered.
sorry..dont have the link

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1025/diesel-ian-paisley-jnr-northern-ireland.html

Dartz

I tried laundering some home heating diesel once, at home.


Blew the washing machine up, it did.

dgt

Who is selling the green diesel to the launderers in the first place? Regulating that might be a better first step!

Dartz wrote: »

I tried laundering some home heating diesel once, at home.


Blew the washing machine up, it did.

Diesel in a washing machine?

dgt

Yep, I'm an idiot, derp derp. I'll go back to bed

guttenberg

pa990 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1025/diesel-ian-paisley-jnr-northern-ireland.html

I'd take anything coming out of that mans mouth with a pince of salt. They calculate that figure based on drops in tax returns? can that accurately account for families cutting down on car use rather than opting for illegal fuel? Does it also accurately account for those who cross border to fill up(legally) because they get a better deal on exchange rates?

exador

MugMugs wrote: »

Yes, you would.... I refuse to believe that any of their pumps could be questioned.

Nobody questioned them..