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Peugeot 5008 from UK - questions to ask help!

  • 23-10-2012 7:02pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,
    I'm looking at buying a used approved automatic peugeot 5008 from the UK & was looking for some help with what questions I should bombard the sales man with on the phone tomorrow :) It was looked at (not driven & not mechanically looked at) today by a relative who said its very clean, doesn't smell of smoke & if its the make model we want looks like a good bet.

    The salesman seems to be fairly stuck on the price of £10995 as he dropped it by £500 recently after it was sold but the couple couldn't get finance (allegedly). It was a lease car if that makes a difference & has 35ish thousand miles on the clock. It's not taxed so if we were to drive it over we would have to pay 6 months tax which I gather will be about £100 cost to us. He has offered a free full tank of fuel or the cash equivalent.

    So the questions I know I want to ask is whether services were done on time & if the correct quality of oil was used.

    Whether the cruise control can be set using Kms, just curious as I don't ideally want to have to always remember what the miles equivalent is if I don't have to :)

    It doesn't have parking sensors so I want to know how much they would cost.

    I'm on here as I know there will be lots of questions I should ask but won't remember, also would you still get an AA/RAC check done on a used approved car?

    Any help you can offer is very much appreciated :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    If its one of those semi automatic jobbies I'd be very wary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    What year is the car?

    If it's more than 3 years old, I'd ask the following:
    • Full service history.
    • Proof of mileage
    • Get an HPI check done. If you can get the VIN or original UK reg no., this should be possible.
    • Have the AA inspect the car
    • Ask for a copy of the Cert of Export (from DVLA)
    • Proof the car's been inspected and VRT'd correctly.
    • Finally - Does the car have current (Irish) tax and NCT - proof?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Why would you pay UK tax of you are bringing the car to Ireland? The UK have better car check sites than us here, so spend the few quid and hopefully save you loads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    If its one of those semi automatic jobbies I'd be very wary.

    It is Colm but its is hard to avoid them these days esp in MPVs & I don't drive a manual so they are hard to avoid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    What year is the car?

    If it's more than 3 years old, I'd ask the following:
    • Full service history.
    • Proof of mileage
    • Get an HPI check done. If you can get the VIN or original UK reg no., this should be possible.
    • Have the AA inspect the car
    • Ask for a copy of the Cert of Export (from DVLA)
    • Proof the car's been inspected and VRT'd correctly.
    • Finally - Does the car have current (Irish) tax and NCT - proof?

    Sorry I should have said, it's a 2010 & is still in the UK. The approved used covers the proof of mileage & HPI check I believe.

    Thanks for the help :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    Why would you pay UK tax of you are bringing the car to Ireland? The UK have better car check sites than us here, so spend the few quid and hopefully save you loads.

    Would I not need it to get the car to the ferry?
    Do you mean the RAC checks or the likes of a HPI check or both?
    Thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,411 ✭✭✭ABajaninCork


    TwoMums2Be wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I'm looking at buying a used approved automatic peugeot 5008 from the UK & was looking for some help with what questions I should bombard the sales man with on the phone tomorrow :) It was looked at (not driven & not mechanically looked at) today by a relative who said its very clean, doesn't smell of smoke & if its the make model we want looks like a good bet.

    The salesman seems to be fairly stuck on the price of £10995 as he dropped it by £500 recently after it was sold but the couple couldn't get finance (allegedly). It was a lease car if that makes a difference & has 35ish thousand miles on the clock. It's not taxed so if we were to drive it over we would have to pay 6 months tax which I gather will be about £100 cost to us. He has offered a free full tank of fuel or the cash equivalent.


    If you're driving the car back, then make sure you're insured to drive the car back. You'll have to tax it for 6 months, but the cost will be refunded by the DVLA once the car's VRT'd and has Irish plates here.

    So the questions I know I want to ask is whether services were done on time & if the correct quality of oil was used.

    A FSH should show whether the service was done, whether full or part service and when. The correct quality of oil? Unless the car was smoking when you test drove it (I assume of course, you have), then the grade was probably correct. An AA/RAC check should show this up as well.

    Whether the cruise control can be set using Kms, just curious as I don't ideally want to have to always remember what the miles equivalent is if I don't have to :)

    Ask the dealer.

    It doesn't have parking sensors so I want to know how much they would cost.

    Ask the dealer.

    I'm on here as I know there will be lots of questions I should ask but won't remember, also would you still get an AA/RAC check done on a used approved car?

    Any help you can offer is very much appreciated :)

    Hope this helps!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    Hi ABajaninCork,

    The list are my questions for the dealer so I will be asking ;) I'm hoping for all the questions I should be asking that my baby brain can't find :p

    It's good to know we can claim the tax back thanks & of course we will be insured to drive it back (alternatively we might get it shipped). From my research I know the quality of oil is important & can cause problems with the turbo hence while I'll be wanting te service schedule :)

    It's not been test drove yet as we have just started the process :)


  • Administrators Posts: 54,417 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭serious3


    NVD will ship to your door for 279+vat cheaper than getting a ferry and flights fuel etc etc


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    serious3 wrote: »
    NVD will ship to your door for 279+vat cheaper than getting a ferry and flights fuel etc etc

    Have you used them? It is an option we are looking at due to having a young child :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭September1


    How are you going to pay for the car? Fly with cash or some sort of wire transfer?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    September1 wrote: »
    How are you going to pay for the car? Fly with cash or some sort of wire transfer?

    Not decided yet but not likely to be flying with cash! We can transfer money to a uk account if a draft from here is not ok so can work around those issues :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    I'm working that out as roughly €17,000 registered in Ireland and I reckon you'd probably get http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/5008/AUTOMATI/513230774490060/advert?channel=CARS for around the same price and less hassle.

    If you do go via the UK route you need to make sure the Speedo Clock has KM/h as well as MPH - if KM/h isn't on the clock you'll need to replace the clocks to get it registered. Could be cheap, could be expensive (up to €700 at a guess).

    You'll also need a European Certificate of Conformity to be able to register it in Ireland. These are usually issued at time of first registration, but it's highly unlikely the dealer has it on file so a new one would need to be applied for. Usually done through the local distributor in Ireland and it will cost you. Haven't requested one for a Peugeot but the last one we needed was €100!

    If it's a lease car it should have a full history, not just in the book but a print out from the lease company of their service information. If this isn't available from the dealer see if they'll tell you which lease company owned the car and get on to them to check the info.

    You'd be hard pushed to get a dealer to let you drive an untaxed car off the lot in the UK so if you are collecting then it will need to be taxed. If you can sort it all over the phone/e-mail then getting it collected via NVD is the easiest option, but you will need to organise somewhere for it to be transported to, that has enough space for a 9 cat transporter to turn around in.

    Lastly, and most importantly, try to get a test drive in an "automatic" 5008. I've driven a Grand Picasso and a 508 with that gearbox/engine combo and I could not live with it on a day to day basis. It's an electronically controlled single clutch set up so a computer decides when to change gear (badly) and then shifts between gears (slowly) for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,442 ✭✭✭September1


    According to UK regulations (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/35/made) it seems that all cars there must be able to give speed in mph and km/h so I'm really suprised that you got this clock problems. What car were you importing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭TwoMums2Be


    Thanks for all the info R.O.R.
    I've talked to that sales man & he doesn't have the car but can get it for me so I couldn't just drop in to look at it (as my dad was going to do for me) & despite being in contact via email neglected to tell me about the other 2010 on the forecourt until it was sold! My partner got the impression he is pushing that car for some reason as she also asked about the 2011 which he wasn't willing to move to far from the retail price 23,900 for cash but would give 2000 off for a banger for scrap yet the 2010 is cash for the scrappage price & she just didn't trust him by the end of the phonecall.

    I know the issues with the automatic but as an automatic driver I'm not sure what I can get as an alternative in that type of car. My partner drove a Picasso (same combo) & didn't feel it was a deal breaker.

    The dial has Kms on the clock :) so that's covered.

    The other info was all stuff I didn't know so thank you for that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    September1 wrote: »
    According to UK regulations (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/regulation/35/made) it seems that all cars there must be able to give speed in mph and km/h so I'm really suprised that you got this clock problems. What car were you importing?

    We've been ok with the cars we brought in, but I was looking at a couple of V70's for my good lady that came across from the UK. The clocks in those were MPH only, and I think new Audi's are the same. I know the Volvo's can display KM/h on the digital display, but whether that is good enough to be able to reg in Ireland, I don't know.

    We have had to change 2 sets of clocks for cars that went the other way (ROI to UK) to get MPH speedo's.
    TwoMums2Be wrote: »
    Thanks for all the info R.O.R.
    I've talked to that sales man & he doesn't have the car but can get it for me so I couldn't just drop in to look at it (as my dad was going to do for me) & despite being in contact via email neglected to tell me about the other 2010 on the forecourt until it was sold! My partner got the impression he is pushing that car for some reason as she also asked about the 2011 which he wasn't willing to move to far from the retail price 23,900 for cash but would give 2000 off for a banger for scrap yet the 2010 is cash for the scrappage price & she just didn't trust him by the end of the phonecall.

    I know the issues with the automatic but as an automatic driver I'm not sure what I can get as an alternative in that type of car. My partner drove a Picasso (same combo) & didn't feel it was a deal breaker.

    The dial has Kms on the clock :) so that's covered.

    The other info was all stuff I didn't know so thank you for that :)

    That's a bit of a bummer with the dealer, it's not good when you end up not being able to trust them, but I'd definately make sure you work the figures out properly on the UK car and see what you can get off an Irish car, before going ahead.

    No negotiation in price with UK dealers, but a good bit of room for negotitation with Irish dealers so it might end up being cheaper to buy local, and it saves a hell of a lot of hassle as well.


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