Lar Corbett Autobiography

ohyesthefinest

Out tomorrow it seems, extract in the Sindo. I'll definately be buying, despite what happened this year hes a legend in my eyes.

ohyesthefinest

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Out tomorrow it seems, extract in the Sindo. I'll definately be buying, despite what happened this year hes a legend in my eyes.

Read the extract there. Larry doesnt hold back or at least not regards to Babs anyhow and good for him because Babs is a meglomaniac and a spoofer.

From a Tipperary fans perspective i am concerned that this book might be counter productive for next year. I felt he was too soft on the outgoing banana brigade who ran the setup. How they were convinced that the deployed tactic of Lar following Tommy would be sustainable is beyond me. On top of that the greater issues were ignored. Kilkenny got too much time, freedom and space on the ball and that was the real core issue that needed dealing. It certainly didnt require having your best scoring forward man mark their wing back as a remedy.

Davin Stand

i don't think this book is a good idea from a Tipperary point of view. Could it be that Lar intends to hang up his boots when Sarsfields' Munster or All Ireland campaign is over. The way he played last Sunday would make you think that his heart is not in the game any more.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

Can never understand sportspeople writing books when their career isn't even over.

Lar comes across as fairly hungry for money these days tbh.

dirtyden

Deleted User wrote: »

Read the extract there. Larry doesnt hold back or at least not regards to Babs anyhow and good for him because Babs is a meglomaniac and a spoofer.

From a Tipperary fans perspective i am concerned that this book might be counter productive for next year. I felt he was too soft on the outgoing banana brigade who ran the setup. How they were convinced that the deployed tactic of Lar following Tommy would be sustainable is beyond me. On top of that the greater issues were ignored. Kilkenny got too much time, freedom and space on the ball and that was the real core issue that needed dealing. It certainly didnt require having your best scoring forward man mark their wing back as a remedy.

It is crazy to think that was a predefined tactic. Having a hurler of the year lethal in the full forward line, man marking the oppositions wing back. Also even stranger was the fact that only half the panel (the forwards) were made aware of this tactic, or at least that was the impression the article gave me.

With that attitude/preparation they were beaten before they started. Declan Ryan and Tommy Dunne are smart guys which is what makes this more surpising to me. They obvioulsly lacked confidence in the ability of the team to just hurl with kilkenny.

He did not hold back on Babs either. The bit about Babs discussing rounds of golf he played with Padraig Harrington as some kind of motivational tool was pretty amusing .

Both pieces do show the importance of a good managment team to success.

Davin Stand

Davin Stand wrote: »

i don't think this book is a good idea from a Tipperary point of view. Could it be that Lar intends to hang up his boots when Sarsfields' Munster or All Ireland campaign is over. The way he played last Sunday would make you think that his heart is not in the game any more.

That would be my concern also. However apparently Eamon O'Shea is set to have one to one talks with all the hurlers next month before assembling a preliminary squad for training.

Pete Campbell wrote: »

Can never understand sportspeople writing books when their career isn't even over.

Lar comes across as fairly hungry for money these days tbh.

Firstly in fairness to him i suppose he is an amateur athlete at the end of the day and perhaps he is right to cash in and make a few quid for himself but look i think from the point of view on focusing on his game he has cashed in perhaps to the point where he has completely taken his eye off the ball.

I dont agree with writing a book either while your still playing. Its a distraction and could cause tension in the camp.

Clareman

I can't understand when sportsmen write books before they finish playing, even assuming that he's finishing up once his club is finished, he would have been in the process of preparing the book while the championship was going on.

dirtyden

dirtyden wrote: »

It is crazy to think that was a predefined tactic. Having a hurler of the year lethal in the full forward line, man marking the oppositions wing back. Also even stranger was the fact that only half the panel (the forwards) were made aware of this tactic, or at least that was the impression the article gave me.

With that attitude/preparation they were beaten before they started. Declan Ryan and Tommy Dunne are smart guys which is what makes this more surpising to me. They obvioulsly lacked confidence in the ability of the team to just hurl with kilkenny.

He did not hold back on Babs either. The bit about Babs discussing rounds of golf he played with Padraig Harrington as some kind of motivational tool was pretty amusing .

Both pieces do show the importance of a good managment team to success.

For two men who were scoring forwards themselves during their playing days it shocked me to think they would use such a negative tactic.

As for Babs, his ego and sense of self importance is off the scale. He is a self centred media-whore.
The gas thing is he probably honestly believed that this bulls*it motivated the players, and if it went over peoples heads (which it did) then its because 'The young lads of today cant do as they are told...bla bla bla'

Whoever made the alleged comment about Philip Maher 'putting too much butter on the spuds' whether true or false is quite frankly despicable. Philip Maher deserves huge credit to come back and don the blue and gold after sustaining a career threatening Cruciate Knee ligament injury in 2003

If it was our old flower Mr Keating who made this comment then he should take a good long hard look in the mirror for himself

Martin567

Having read the extract in today's paper, Babs surely has a serious rival for the biggest spoofer in Tipperary. Utter, utter tripe and deluded tripe at that.

Eamon O'Shea's first task as manager must be to sit Lar down and tell him to cut out the publicity hunting or else give him the boot.

hawkwing

It's all gone to his head it seems and has been like that for a couple of years.It's embarrassing at this stage what he comes out with.Everything seemed to revolve around his upcoming battle with Jackie Tyrell and basically sounds like he wasn't up for it so a group of them gather to come up with a ridiculous plan so that he wouldn't have to have Jackie marking him at any cost.This seems to have been more inportant than anything or anyone else involved in the match.
After the display again last Sunday he would be best to just go at this stage as he is becoming a laughing stock within the county as well as outside. Although maybe there is some great tactical reason for his performances with Sars this year too,or just blame Babs again perhaps.

WumBuster

He strikes me as a strange guy, hard to work him out and i wont be paying 10 quid or whatever it is to find out.

i_steal_sheep

A great hurler in his day. The standard of his writing would want to be a little more developed than, say, his column in the Irish Independent. That was poor enough at times. At the end of the day, he's yet another amateur sportsman who is not immune to financial pressures. Having said that - the timing is all off and he may have complicated things for himself even more now with this book.

TheNap

What was the story with his performance last Sunday ?

Did he want the ball even ?

Seemed to be just running around the middle 3rd enjoying the view


Seems like a strange character

randd1

I'm not sure bringing out a book is going to him, or Tipp, much good if he's going to continue playing inter-county hurling, I wouldn't be a fan of current players bringing out books when their still in action.

I know Cusack did it a couple of years ago, but he was and always has been hugely loved in Cork despite everything, Lar just doesn't garner the same level of respect amongst his own supporters, especially after the AI last year and this years SF antics. Even at that Cusack got a bit of stick over some of his comments in it which caused a bit of a stir, especially whenever Cork play Kilkenny.

I wouldn't surprised if Lar's going to retire for good to be honest, he got some seriously unwarranted abuse after the SF, the return from retirement hasn't worked out, he's over-shadowed the Tipp panel this year with his media profile and in truth he hasn't done what was needed of him when he's played this year, even for the Sars according to my Tipp friends (though I stand to be corrected on that one).

Perhaps the book release is going to come in close proximity timewise to a retirement announcement? Very shrewd move if it is. And if it is to be, then thanks Lar for the memories.

If not, this could cause bother down the line for Tipp, especially if there's anything really controversial in it about other counties that could blow up in their face.

eyescreamcone

Pete Campbell wrote: »

Can never understand sportspeople writing books when their career isn't even over.

Lar comes across as fairly hungry for money these days tbh.

And this is bad???

eyescreamcone

randd1 wrote: »

I'm not sure bringing out a book is going to him, or Tipp, much good if he's going to continue playing inter-county hurling, I wouldn't be a fan of current players bringing out books when their still in action.

I know Cusack did it a couple of years ago, but he was and always has been hugely loved in Cork despite everything, Lar just doesn't garner the same level of respect amongst his own supporters, especially after the AI last year and this years SF antics. Even at that Cusack got a bit of stick over some of his comments in it which caused a bit of a stir, especially whenever Cork play Kilkenny.

I wouldn't surprised if Lar's going to retire for good to be honest, he got some seriously unwarranted abuse after the SF, the return from retirement hasn't worked out, he's over-shadowed the Tipp panel this year with his media profile and in truth he hasn't done what was needed of him when he's played this year, even for the Sars according to my Tipp friends (though I stand to be corrected on that one).

Perhaps the book release is going to come in close proximity timewise to a retirement announcement? Very shrewd move if it is. And if it is to be, then thanks Lar for the memories.

If not, this could cause bother down the line for Tipp, especially if there's anything really controversial in it about other counties that could blow up in their face.

please explain

Hulk Hands

They write books at this stage because they are still in the public spotlight and it will sell. If Donal Og released his book now there wouldnt be half as much interest as there was a few years ago when he was still playing and fresh off the disputes

randd1

eyescreamcone wrote: »

please explain

The strikes which split opinion in the county and which didn't help Cork be as competitive as they could have been.

While the majority of Cork fans backed up the players, lot of Cork people didn't support the players the last two times there was a strike, especially the third time, and were critical of the leaders of those players like Cusack.

Despite that, Cusack still has a level of popularity amongst his own that Lar doesn't.

That's my explanation.

Martin567

Martin567 wrote: »

Having read the extract in today's paper, Babs surely has a serious rival for the biggest spoofer in Tipperary. Utter, utter tripe and deluded tripe at that.

Eamon O'Shea's first task as manager must be to sit Lar down and tell him to cut out the publicity hunting or else give him the boot.

Yeah i agree with that tbh. Its gone out of control at this stage.

Couldn't understand his defence of the tactics tbh. Id have roasted both Ryan and Dunne (constructively of course ) tbh. Is he being loyal or does he genuinely think the tactics were a good idea i honestly dont know.

As for what he perceived to be rough stuff from Kilkenny and Jackie T in particular sure he took the bit of flaking but when he steps out on the field he should just be prepared to be marked with that bit of venom. Stand up for himself if needs be and do his best to create space, that is if your coaches dont have you in a tactical strait jacket. I think thats the real issue here. Im sure Kilkenny let him feel their presence in 2010 also but the only difference is that Lar wasnt stuck to the one spot that day.

I think he may also have been harsh on PJ Ryan in stating 'he would have saved them with the cheeks of his arse in 2009'. Yes he had a good day at the office in 2009 but there was more then just luck involved. His save from Callanan was at full stretch and quite frankly it was magnificent. I couldnt believe it was saved that day i was gobsmacked. It was superb and was one of many top class saves he made

Christy Ring used get flaked big time but he just got on with it. Its out of Lar's control as its up to the officials to spot these things but unfortunately they dont.

The timing of the book is sheer madness. Everyone is entitled to their own side of the story but Lar should leave his hurling do the talking first and when he does hang up the boots only then he should give his account of things.

I suppose in his defence, the media dictate the game to a certain degree. The heroes and the villains. So when there is money on the table in a tough economic climate then perhaps he may have a point in cashing in even if it is detrimental to the cause.

I felt in last weekends performance, Lar let his teammates down, he let his mentors down and more importantly he let himself down. Fact of the matter is Ronnie Corbett would have had more presence in the game.

Granted he is a human being first and foremost but his performance didnt do his talent justice. When Jim Corbett, his Sars teammate and namesake was taken off all i could think was, 'Wrong Corbett manager, wrong Corbett'

If Tipperary are to fulfill any of the potential shown then we just have to cut the passengers loose. They are just luxuries we cant afford any more.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

eyescreamcone wrote: »

And this is bad???

I wouldn't begrudge any man a few quid but for the couple of years he has left in the game he should IMO have kept his head down and concentrated on his hurling. Plenty time for books then. Sure if they win the AI next year he'll have to write a sequel!!!

Tombo2001

Clareman wrote: »

I can't understand when sportsmen write books before they finish playing.

I remember Stephen Roche talking about how in 1987 just after he won the tour de france, he'd have all these Irish businessmen and companes phoning saying that he ever wanted some work when his cycling career was over to give them a shout........but that when he was calling them 7 or 8 years later none of them were interested.

Right now, Lar is one of the best known hurlers in the country. Its now or never, if he wants the book to sell well.

A Dan Shanahan book or a Ciaran McDonald book would have sold a lot more five years ago than it would today.

Luca Brasi

Martin567 wrote: »

Having read the extract in today's paper, Babs surely has a serious rival for the biggest spoofer in Tipperary. Utter, utter tripe and deluded tripe at that.

Eamon O'Shea's first task as manager must be to sit Lar down and tell him to cut out the publicity hunting or else give him the boot.

1. Keating has been recognised as a bluffer for sometime now. His type of hurling is history and he really has nothing to offer. I would venture to say that if he didnt have the nickname "Babs" we would never hear of him. Afterall how many people can name many of the other 14 players he played with in 1971. Just grabbing at any bit of delayed glory he can.

2. Lar is just a symbol of many of the present GAA players who believe their own publicity and are trying to maximise income while they can. They might as well because it wont last. The days of the handy company rep jobs are gone. I am convinced that if certain Dublin players forgot about the commercial possibilities and concentrated on football they would have been better off this year.

Luca Brasi

Luca Brasi wrote: »

1. Keating has been recognised as a bluffer for sometime now. His type of hurling is history and he really has nothing to offer. I would venture to say that if he didnt have the nickname "Babs" we would never hear of him. Afterall how many people can name many of the other 14 players he played with in 1971. Just grabbing at any bit of delayed glory he can.

2. Lar is just a symbol of many of the present GAA players who believe their own publicity and are trying to maximise income while they can. They might as well because it wont last. The days of the handy company rep jobs are gone. I am convinced that if certain Dublin players forgot about the commercial possibilities and concentrated on football they would have been better off this year.

Firstly i dont like Babs Keating, i think he is arrogant and obnoxious to be quite honest. But i have to bow to his achievements in the game both as Tipperary player (All Irelands 1964, 1965, 1971) and manager (all irelands 1989 and 1991) and he did come up with the Tipperary supporters club which is a good fund raising initiative to be fair. That all said i think his behaviour against his own fellow hurling people such as Liam Sheedy and Lar Corbett is quite frankly disgraceful.

If we were all in Lar's position i suppose it would be hard to turn down the money so i cant be too critical. Ive met Lar on one or two occasions and i find him to be a gent. I really want his Tipperary career to go out on a high but half the battle lies with Lar's hunger and drive itself

eyescreamcone

Pete Campbell wrote: »

I wouldn't begrudge any man a few quid but for the couple of years he has left in the game he should IMO have kept his head down and concentrated on his hurling. Plenty time for books then. Sure if they win the AI next year he'll have to write a sequel!!!

Make hay while the sun shines etc...IMO

Davin Stand

I wonder does a player make much money from writing a book like Lar is after doing. IMO it will sell poorly even here in Tipperary and I can't see any great demand in other counties. It will be in the bargain bin before too long.

eyescreamcone

Davin Stand wrote: »

I wonder does a player make much money from writing a book like Lar is after doing. IMO it will sell poorly even here in Tipperary and I can't see any great demand in other counties. It will be in the bargain bin before too long.

That's still more than you get for 1000 training sessions in the rain

MfMan

What's he going to use as fill for the years between '02 and '09?

ReacherCreature

dirtyden wrote: »

It is crazy to think that was a predefined tactic.

Declan Ryan admitted so in a post-game interview.

Declan Ryan and Tommy Dunne are smart guys which is what makes this more surpising to me.

Didn't translate to coaching. Like you said:

Having a hurler of the year lethal in the full forward line, man marking the oppositions wing back. Also even stranger was the fact that only half the panel (the forwards) were made aware of this tactic, or at least that was the impression the article gave me.

They obvioulsly lacked confidence in the ability of the team to just hurl with kilkenny.

There was little back up to the woeful tactics employed even when it was clear that plan A was not working. This should have happened, allow them to hurl when the gameplan has collapsed.

Both pieces do show the importance of a good managment team to success.

Absolutely. There's excitement for Eamon O' Shea around the county that's rarely seen.

randd1 wrote: »

Lar just doesn't garner the same level of respect amongst his own supporters

After his performances vs. Kilkenny and then up until 2011 AI he was easily the most popular hurler in the county and to some extent after Walsh marked him but when he retired he lost support quickly.

the return from retirement hasn't worked out

Still in the air from a playing standard. The couple of games he was in he was fairly decent, turning provider and cleaning up a lot of ball. The league and SF are non-entities. It's still a developing issue for evaluation, the Thurles Sarsfields game doesn't bode well though.

sasta le

Seems to be going ok today
On a serious note i think Lar suffers from depression or bi polar maybe,even the title of the book has a deeper meaning i feel

buck65

Great goal today, some nice touches but was AWOL for spells too, Pa Bourke is a good player.

Dayor Knight

The book is a damn good read, imo. Given the amount of rumour and general crap that has been floated around about Lar, I reckon he's entitled to get his story out there. And good luck to him if he makes a few bob on it. I agree in general about writing a book while still involved, but having read it I don't see any downside for Tipp, if anything I'm feeling more positive about next year (as a Tipp man of course). Lar has given us some great days, and I really hope for his own sake that he gets a few more good ones. He owes us nothing. Good for you, Larry, have a good 2013.

shawnee

Dayor Knight wrote: »

The book is a damn good read, imo. Given the amount of rumour and general crap that has been floated around about Lar, I reckon he's entitled to get his story out there. And good luck to him if he makes a few bob on it. I agree in general about writing a book while still involved, but having read it I don't see any downside for Tipp, if anything I'm feeling more positive about next year (as a Tipp man of course). Lar has given us some great days, and I really hope for his own sake that he gets a few more good ones. He owes us nothing. Good for you, Larry, have a good 2013.

Read the Sindo parts from the book and from my experience these are the best parts. What a load of rubbish . Fine hurler lar but if you're buying the book to support Tipp Hurling fine but he even tries to justify why he followed Tommy Walsh around Croker for 70 mins.... he's back hurling and I hope he sticks to it.:D

Dayor Knight

Who said anything about buying the book to support Tipp hurling? You're entitled to your opinion about the book, but you'd at least want to read it to comment on it. Relying on extracts to make a judgement is likely judging a movie by watching the trailers (why bother going, they're usually the best bits.....). In the book he gives an honest account of his life to date including the ups and down of his hurling career. Take it or leave it, you don't have to agree, but in my opinion the book is a good read. Anyone who comes at it with an open mind and actually reads it may or may not agree.....

ohyesthefinest

Got this as a present today. As far as page 84, great read so far, cant wait to go back to it after the dinner.

frizzy

I have finished reading this book and it truly is a good read!Some interesting views on Tipperary management over the past decade as well as entertaining tales of the various characters who have played for Tipp over the years! Lar definitely has a story to tell-it was an insightful read of the life of an inter county hurler and I would recommend it to hurling fans (particularly Tipperary followers)

premierstone

frizzy wrote: »

I have finished reading this book and it truly is a good read!Some interesting views on Tipperary management over the past decade as well as entertaining tales of the various characters who have played for Tipp over the years! Lar definitely has a story to tell-it was an insightful read of the life of an inter county hurler and I would recommend it to hurling fans (particularly Tipperary followers)

Thanks Lar

ohyesthefinest

Jackie Cahill tweeted this article. I found it interesting. http://thescore.thejournal.ie/lar-corbett-tipperary-725510-Dec2012/?utm_source=twitter_self

Wanderer2010

I did read a few chapters of the book out of curiosity but he is a bit young to be releasing a book like this, he is jumping on the bandwagon of almost every 25-35yr old sports star who thinks releasing an autobiography is an essential thing to do. Although its a slightly interesting read, I think Corbett needs a bit more of a sense of humour, he comes across a very very serious chap in tv and media interviews for his age..