Offensive? Jack Lukeman - The 27 Club

amdublin

I've just seen an ad for a tv program to be shown next Saturday night (I think).

Jack L will be singing songs from singers who are part of "The 27 Club".

Am I the only person who thinks this is a bit sick?? A bit like getting publicity from a person's death?

I wouldn't mind if it was geared as some sort of a "tribute" but the way he was pitching it just didn't sit right with me.

Anyone else see it? What did you think?

amdublin

Btw for anyone who doesn't know the 27 club:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

Mr E

Just a bad ad I guess... how can it be anything other than a tribute?

amdublin

Hmm I don't know MrE. Bad ad yes....but bad concept overall IMO.

Happyman42

This singer is too reverential of his own ego, as is the Irish media. He's a two bit, two a penny caberet singer, a little fish in a little pond. He treats his audience with complete disdain and astonishing arrogance, not suprised that he would be involved in something offensive and in as bad taste as this.

MagicMarker

No it's not offensive in the slightest.

Also Starring LeVar Burton

Haven't seen the ad, but the concept doesn't sound offensive to me at all.

amdublin

I just think that you'd never put this singers in a show together. The absolute only connection is they all died when they were 27. It's a bit ghoulish IMO.

NIMAN

Amazing how many music stars died on the 27th.

I'm away off to Conspiracy Theories section to start a thread!

Heard his version of Ruby Tuesday this morning on the radio and its a 3/10 for me, very average pub singer style.

amdublin

NIMAN wrote: »

Amazing how many music stars died on the 27th.

Skid

I haven't see the live show but I am confident it is an homage to the artists concerned.

Jack L presented a very good Radio Series on the history of recorded music. He knows his stuff and I don't think there is anything wrong with paying tribute to those who went too soon in this way.

lertsnim

Offensive how exactly?

amdublin

lertsnim wrote: »

Offensive how exactly?

It's distasteful IMO:

amdublin wrote: »

I just think that you'd never put this singers in a show together. The absolute only connection is they all died when they were 27. It's a bit ghoulish IMO.

MagicMarker

amdublin wrote: »

It's distasteful IMO:

How?

SprostonGreen

Not sure if you should be offended? Take to the internet to make sure.

Lady Chatterton

Skid wrote: »

I haven't see the live show but I am confident it is an homage to the artists concerned.

Jack L presented a very good Radio Series on the history of recorded music. He knows his stuff and I don't think there is anything wrong with paying tribute to those who went too soon in this way.

I'm with Skid, I definitely feel that this is a celebration of the extraordinary talent of these musicians who unfortunately died way too young. I think it would be an even greater loss if other musicians felt they couldn't cover their music. It's is a good thing that the Club 27 members live on through their music.

A few years back Jack L released an album of Jacque Brel covers and introduced a whole generation of people to Brel's music. Personally, I thought Brel's music really suited Jack's voice.

I bought 'The 27 Club' album and having listened to it, it makes me want to listen to the original artists even more, surely that can't be a bad thing.

I'm a big Jack L fan, I like what he has done here but in many cases I prefer the originals better. Having said that, I am looking forward to hearing him sing these songs live in the next few weeks.

NIMAN

amdublin wrote: »

Oops.

I meant to say "died at 27".

Lady Chatterton

amdublin wrote: »

I just think that you'd never put this singers in a show together. The absolute only connection is they all died when they were 27. It's a bit ghoulish IMO.

I have to disagree with you on this one, Amdublin. Joe Dolan died during Christmas 2007 and within a couple of years there was a tribute show touring Ireland - "The Night Joe Dolan's Car Broke Down". No one complained about it all and why would they, it keeps Joe's music alive and it gives his fans a way of reliving the glory days. There is nothing ghoulish about celebrating someone's music.

FloatingVoter

A lot of interesting acts checked out when they were 27 - why not base a "concept" album of covers on it. There have been concept albums based on The Hobbit and the flight pattern of the bumblebee ffs.
My only gripe is that it is the talentless walking dirge that is Jack L that did it.

His sequel will probably be 33 (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_famous_people_died_at_age_33)

JonathanAnon

MrsD007 wrote: »

I'm with Skid, I definitely feel that this is a celebration of the extraordinary talent of these musicians who unfortunately died way too young.

Mrs D defending Jack L... Quel suprise... Those people who only have one letter in their surname all stick together..

Lady Chatterton

JonathanAnon wrote: »

Mrs D defending Jack L... Quel suprise... Those people who only have one letter in their surname all stick together..

:D:D

Especially for you JA

Skid

I haven't seen the advert in question, but this is how Jack L's website describes the show

http://www.jacklukeman.com/27/

Few musicians set out to become legends, even fewer succeed.
Yet by any standard musicians like Amy Winehouse, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and Kurt Cobain are legendary. Each left behind a lasting musical legacy, with songs that freeze forever a moment in time, speak for a generation, or simply give voice to the grief and grace of the human heart.

In so many ways these performers are nothing like each other. One is fabled for her throaty, gutsy singing style; another for his electrifying guitar riffs; a third for his rebellious, sensual stage presence. Some of these musicians sang the blues, some loved jazz, still others graced the pop, R&B, or alt charts.
Yet, as diverse as their lives and musical gifts were, every one of these performers shared the same final act: Each died when they were only 27 years old.

For some, the torments and triumphs of a short life were played out over Tumblr and Twitter, others died in obscurity, their star rising only after death. What few will argue is that no matter when they lived, how they died, or how diverse they were from each other, every one of these artists now share a common heritage: Each of them is, without a doubt, legendary.

He is celebrating their lives and music, not the fact that they passed away so young.

Here is a list of his upcoming gigs in case anyone wants to join amdublin's protest

http://www.jacklukeman.com/gigs/

Lady Chatterton

As part of Big Music Week, Jack L and the RTE symphony orchestra recorded a special concert of songs from 'The Club 27' album. It will be broadcast tonight on RTE Radio 1 from 11pm to 12am.

Also, next Saturday night on RTE 1 television @ 11:10pm

Vocalist: Jack Lukeman performs songs from his album, The 27 Club, celebrating the legacy of stars such as Janis Joplin, Amy Winehouse and Jimi Hendrix, who died at the age of 27.

Gina X

amdublin wrote: »

I've just seen an ad for a tv program to be shown next Saturday night (I think).

Jack L will be singing songs from singers who are part of "The 27 Club".

Am I the only person who thinks this is a bit sick?? A bit like getting publicity from a person's death?

I wouldn't mind if it was geared as some sort of a "tribute" but the way he was pitching it just didn't sit right with me.

Anyone else see it? What did you think?

I think Jack has made it very clear that this is a tribute to the musical legacy left behind by the wonderful artists who died so young. He is drawing attention to their songs, NOT their lives or the manner in which they died. I for one found it quite shocking that although I knew that Jim Morrison died young, when I thought about it and the others (there are more than the just the ones Jack has drawn attention to) they had done so much and created such great music in such a short length of time. They really were so young when they died. I have listened toJack's Album and really enjoyed it, I don't find it morbid. What I do find sad is Amy Winehouse's Back to Black album in the bargain bucket in HMV or how my nieces and nephews don't know any Janis Joplin or Jimi Hendrix tunes or how The Rolling Stones are regarded as old farts when at one time their music was so cutting edge. At least this is fitting tribute. I think the TV ad may just be bad, I haven't seen or heard it. Give it a chance amdublin and then decide, a short TV ad doesn't really give you a staggering insight. As for the other negative posts, really just sour grapes in my opinion.

lertsnim

amdublin wrote: »

It's distasteful IMO:

It's not really. You are over reacting to nothing.

NIMAN

Joe Dolan's dead:eek:

Lady Chatterton

NIMAN wrote: »

Joe Dolan's dead:eek:

lol

I'm so sorry you had to find out this way :D

raycre

Over reaction / sensitive... Its not offensive unless you want it to be

adox

It takes some effort in your head to think this is anyway offensive. I really do wonder sometimes.


As for Lukeman being a caberet singer, as someone suggest earlier, couldn't be further from the truth IMO. One of our most talented and under acknowledged musicians today. His voice really is quite something special live.

amdublin

Hmm well we'll just have to agree to disagree I guess.

I will reserve any further judgement until I see the program so :cool:

Knucklecracker

What channel is it on ?

Lady Chatterton

Knucklecracker wrote: »

What channel is it on ?

There is a Jack L Concert with the RTE Symphony Orchestra on RTE Radio 1 tonight at 11pm, the tv programme will air next Saturday night on RTE 1 at 11:10pm.

Go Harvey Go

Will he be singing "Rehab"? That would be quite interesting...

And if memory serves right, he's done Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" before as well.

Lady Chatterton

Go Harvey Go wrote: »

Will he be singing "Rehab"? That would be quite interesting...

And if memory serves right, he's done Kylie's "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" before as well.

No Harvey, he sings 'Love is a losing game' on the album. I love his version of 'Can't get you out of my head'.

Jack recently collaborated with the violinist, Vladimir on Cohen's 'Dance Me to the End of Love', I think it's a cracking tune.

Skid

amdublin wrote: »

I've just seen an ad for a tv program to be shown next Saturday night (I think).

Jack L will be singing songs from singers who are part of "The 27 Club".

Am I the only person who thinks this is a bit sick?? A bit like getting publicity from a person's death?

I wouldn't mind if it was geared as some sort of a "tribute" but the way he was pitching it just didn't sit right with me.

Anyone else see it? What did you think?

Just wondering if you watched the show, and what you thought about it, amdublin ?

I enjoyed it, I think Jack L genuinely admires and respects the artists he covered on the show.