Public Sector Redundancies.

Papp9

Does anyone know if there will be a blanket redundancy offer for the public sector, or will it be a target scheme, were only certain sections of the public sector will be offered the deal.
Would it not be better to have a blanket offer were the big wage workers, with only a few years left, be left go and new workers takin in on the new pay scale be takin on. Rather then targeting sections with a over flow of people, would it not be better to cut the wage bill and the overflow.

Nody

Targeted only and the reason being the cost to hire a new person for the expensive roles (i.e. top roles would in general have a replacement on same or similar salary while paying pension and bonus to the person who retired).

Papp9

Was thinking that also, but, what it been said is that, there might be an offer to the high paid lads to get rid of the big wages and then take in people on new contracts with lower rates.

opti0nal

Papp9 wrote: »

Was thinking that also, but, what it been said is that, there might be an offer to the high paid lads to get rid of the big wages and then take in people on new contracts with lower rates.

There are fewer people on the bigger wages and, in some cases, say for example an IT director,, they're paid similarly to private sector.

The gains are to be made disposing of large numbers of surplus staff in lower grades and not hiring replacements, These would be found in useless quangos which were endowed on rural locations and who are difficult to redeploy due to no other public jobs nearby or lack of useful skills.

There's big public service quango office block in Spiddal that fits this description.

repsol

Papp9 wrote: »

Does anyone know if there will be a blanket redundancy offer for the public sector, or will it be a target scheme, were only certain sections of the public sector will be offered the deal.
Would it not be better to have a blanket offer were the big wage workers, with only a few years left, be left go and new workers takin in on the new pay scale be takin on. Rather then targeting sections with a over flow of people, would it not be better to cut the wage bill and the overflow.

It probably would be better which is exactly why the Government probably will do the opposite

Farmer Pudsey

Has the government not the right to retire PS who have full service for pension rights at sixt years of age. Why will it noy use this option and decide that any PS that are in area's there are excess staff to retire any staff that have full pension rights at sixty years of age.

deise blue

The mandatory retirement age for Public Sector employees employed pre 1/4/2004 is 65.

Employees may retire earlier but cannot legally be forced to retire until attaining age 65.

opti0nal

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Has the government not the right to retire PS who have full service for pension rights at sixt years of age. Why will it noy use this option and decide that any PS that are in area's there are excess staff to retire any staff that have full pension rights at sixty years of age.

The government could be found guilty of age descrimnation or constructive unfair dismissal. To make somone redeundant, you have to demonstrate that their job no longer exists and that the situation is not contrived to manouvere the person into a redundant role.

A voluntary redundancy or early retirement scheme avoids all of these risks.

To create genuine redundancies, the government would need, for example, to decide to repeal the Official Languages Act, thereby making the role of the Language Commissioner, his staff and his luxurious office in Spiddal redundant.

It's this kind of paring back, by government deciding to eliminate unnecessary work that leads to rationalisation of public sector numbers.