After Tus

Karen23

I've posted on this forum before about being on Tus , I've really enjoyed my placement and my employer is very happy with my work and we have both being looking into ways I can be kept on there when my contract finishes in early January.

My employer doesn't have funding to take on as a new employee , hence their reason for Tus participation. I did 2 years on CE about 5 years ago and finished as I was under 35 but I will turn 35 two weeks after my contract runs out.

Does anyone know if my employer could take me on when I turn 35 as a CE worker.

Also I know you have to be unemployed for 12 months to qualify for CE and technically on Tus I haven't been unemployed but it is a government funded scheme and JobBridge allow time spent on Tus to count towards eligibility.

As Tus is a pilot scheme I don't know if time on Tus has even been considered yet for CE eligibility.

Thanks for any replies

StillWaters

I can't answer whether tus counts towards eligibility, sorry.

But the first thing to do is find out if your employer has a CE scheme, and if there are any vacancies coming up on it, ie if anyone is coming to the end of their year.

If there isn't already a CE scheme there, I would caution you not to be optimistic, there was a cap put on the schemes, and it is nigh on impossible to get sanction for a new one.

Maggie 2

Your employer must be a public body if you working for him on TUS. It's a 12 month placement and in order to get the best out of you, he's encouraging you by saying he's happy with you. CE schemes have changed their criteria recently they also provide training, where I think TUS doesn't. Unless he can pay for you himself, you have no hope of being kept on. I'll bet he has someone lined up to replace you already! That is no reflection on either you or him, but it's the way the system works. Let someone else get the advantages you've enjoyed.

StillWaters

That's not true Maggie. Community and voluntary sector bods host Tus, which are not state bodies. They represent the third sector.

Maggie 2

What I meant was, that they are not avaiIabIe in the private sector

Karen23

[Quote=Maggie 2;81315272 Let someone else get the advantages you've enjoyed.[/Quote]
Thats all well and good but when an employer has spent the last ten month's training you in a job and you've put a lot of hard work into it surely there's nothing wrong with trying to find ways to stay on rather than going back on the dole.

Maggie 2

Unfortunately, Karen, that's the way these schemes work! There are plenty more waiting in the wings!

Karen23

I understand that but it just seems pointless to have spent the year there to go back to signing on and someone else going in and starting from scratch again. I just wonder what was the point.

Maggie 2

Karen23 wrote: »

I understand that but it just seems pointless to have spent the year there to go back to signing on and someone else going in and starting from scratch again. I just wonder what was the point.

The point is to give someone who may have been out of the workforce for some time, experience in the workplace and hopefully gear them up for meaningful employment.

Karen23

Which is exactly what the bumf says but taking me out of a job to put me on the dole is more likely going to be the outcome rather than meaningful employment. I'll be just swapping places with someone else.

Maggie 2

You're not being taken out of a job. Your term of work experience has come to an end and another unemployed person is being given the same chance. I'm glad you liked the placement and hopefully you'll be better placed for new employment in the future. You might consider returning to education as an alternative to full time dole. You're too late for this year, but if things continue as they are, you'll be eligible next year. The Institutes of Technology have some fantastic coursed, starting at Level 6 and upwards.

scientist

I'm 3 months away from finishing my year on the Tus scheme. I'm just wondering about something. My supervisor takes me out of my job sometimes to sub in for this other girl in a different job whenever she decides to take a half day or something. Basically when the sun comes out. What are my rights as a tus scheme worker. Can I refuse to go to this other place for the day. I hate it.

wmpdd3

Is she on the TUS scheme or is she paid?

scientist

She's on another scheme, rss or something.Is there any support for people on these schemes like there would be with a real job, such as A Union or Human resourses or something. Surely if I'm willing to do my own job , they can't make me go there? I feel really put upon. Bad enough to have to work for feck all pay but then to be at this ones beck and call aswell? I never got a contract or anything, no list of what my rights are as an employee. It all seems wrong. I feel they are taking advantage of my quiet personality , my situation and lack of info on my rights. Where could I get such info ? There are 3 or 4 scheme supervisors working together and they are apparently all my bosses. Then there is my boss in the place I work. She isn't there most of the time and I don't know if she would be much help.

scientist

http://www.ginokenny.com/TUSscheme.html

Check this out. I've been on tus for the year and am just coming off it. It was a total waste of my time. I had to pay out 15 euro for my prsi cos I was claiming for my kids and husband. Then get in and out to work, another 20. What a joke. I am a positive person and I went in with an optimistic attitude. But reality hits and its just slave labour at the end of the day. It is designed to be intimidatory.