Ikea bath taps--ok for Irish water presure??

paddy147

Are Ikea bath/basin taps ok for Irish water pressure?

http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/categories/departments/bathroom/20724/



Kinda like this tap,but Im a bit unsure about buying it.

http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/20177781/

Would it work ok?

Any suggestions??


Thanks.:)

LIFFY FISHING

Rule of thumb, 1/2 connections ok, all other connections need pump pressure

paddy147

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Rule of thumb, 1/2 connections ok, all other connections need pump pressure

Do you mean anything with a 1/2 inch pipe feed?

Like a bathroom sink tap?


Thanks.:)

Joey the lips

ikea taps are designed for all pressures so they say. You just change the aeriator for high and low pressure. However they are factory fitted high pressure so its important you have the aeriator.

I have never seen anyone with the taps yet to comment on them although if a pressre of a tap fails its usually on bath shower mxrs

paddy147

Thanks for the advice Joey.:)

paddy147

Joey the lips wrote: »

ikea taps are designed for all pressures so they say. You just change the aeriator for high and low pressure. However they are factory fitted high pressure so its important you have the aeriator.

I have never seen anyone with the taps yet to comment on them although if a pressre of a tap fails its usually on bath shower mxrs

I had that problem allright with my bath mixer shower tap.

Took the tap apart,cut the spring down to size and installed a lighter mixer knob and its working perfectly now.:)

DublinDilbert

I bought an ikea kitchen sink tap there a few weeks back. It was set up for 15mm pipe, so I just changed over the olives to 1/2 inch ones and it was fine. I'm sure a few DIYer's would be caught out by this...

The tap section had an "ask member of staff" for details, the girl just asked me if my house had normal water pressure. I've no idea what "normal" is, cause it varies so much from place to place.

Joey the lips

On kitchen sinks its not the cold that gives you the trouble. Its the hot.

Berberis

Installed a set of these bathroom taps from ikea last night.
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/80144165/

€75 a pair and the water pressure is brutal on them.
Cold is really bad and hot slightly better.
Ended up not using any of the aeriators as the pressure is slightly better without them.
Spent every night this week installing the washbasin and the plumbing. delighted with meself when I finished last night and then turned on taps and bummer

LIFFY FISHING

Berberis wrote: »

Installed a set of these bathroom taps from ikea last night.
http://www.ikea.com/ie/en/catalog/products/80144165/

€75 a pair and the water pressure is brutal on them.
Cold is really bad and hot slightly better.
Ended up not using any of the aeriators as the pressure is slightly better without them.
Spent every night this week installing the washbasin and the plumbing. delighted with meself when I finished last night and then turned on taps and bummer

The fittings sold in Ikea are designed for pressurised water systems requiring a minimum of 1 bar pressure in other words a pumped supply, it needs pressure to operate, it has nothing to do with airators, you are going to need a pump if you want these fittings to work, allways check when buying fittings the minimum working pressure they work on, if the seller cant tell you that move on to someone else who can.

paddy147

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

The fittings sold in Ikea are designed for pressurised water systems requiring a minimum of 1 bar pressure in other words a pumped supply, it needs pressure to operate, it has nothing to do with airators, you are going to need a pump if you want these fittings to work, allways check when buying fittings the minimum working pressure they work on, if the seller cant tell you that move on to someone else who can.

I asked an Ikea staff member to open a box and let me look at the fittings/flexis on them

They are narrower/smaller than normal flexis here in Ireland.The tap holes where the flexis enter are also narrower too.

I decided to avoid buying them,as I was unsure about them,after seeing them.


Had a look at the booklet and no mention of operating pressure in it,or on the box either.

Berberis

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

The fittings sold in Ikea are designed for pressurised water systems requiring a minimum of 1 bar pressure in other words a pumped supply, it needs pressure to operate, it has nothing to do with airators, you are going to need a pump if you want these fittings to work, allways check when buying fittings the minimum working pressure they work on, if the seller cant tell you that move on to someone else who can.

Yea I can see that now Liffy Fishing:mad:
Pity I never knew earlier, that taps could be different other than the look of them.
Ah well at least when ther tap is left running by mistake in the future, there won't be as much waste as before

Berberis

Brining the taps back to Ikea at the weekend to get a refund, no way is it possible to live with such poor pressure.
Spotted these taps on internet and thinking of buying these, The specs say they are suitable for gravity feed and minimum pressure of 0.2bar, Would these be ok would anyone know

LIFFY FISHING

Berberis wrote: »

Brining the taps back to Ikea at the weekend to get a refund, no way is it possible to live with such poor pressure.
Spotted these taps on internet and thinking of buying these, The specs say they are suitable for gravity feed and minimum pressure of 0.2bar, Would these be ok would anyone know

.2 bar is 6ft head pressure, so u should b ok,
btw Ikea are under no complement to refund you as there is nothing wrong with the product, they are fit for purpose, & it was up to you to check they were suitable, mot been bolshie with you but you need to know your rights before returning goods.

Berberis

Yea I understand thanks about the ikea thing and asked last week and because i still have the origional packaging they will at least give me a credit note.
In fairness to me though there is not much info given in ikea on the taps only really that they are suitable for both high and low pressure and to change the airator depending on which pressure I have, so really they did not give me much info.
Thanks for the info by the way, and if I could ask another question, is their a lower bar than 0.2 and if so would you know where I might source them

LIFFY FISHING

Berberis wrote: »

Yea I understand thanks about the ikea thing and asked last week and because i still have the origional packaging they will at least give me a credit note.
In fairness to me though there is not much info given in ikea on the taps only really that they are suitable for both high and low pressure and to change the airator depending on which pressure I have, so really they did not give me much info.
Thanks for the info by the way, and if I could ask another question, is their a lower bar than 0.2 and if so would you know where I might source them

I hope this will help you;

1bar pressure is =14.5 psi or =10 meter head pressure.(30ft head pressure)
So 0.1 bar = 1meter head or roughly 3ft head pressure.
Imagine the height from the cold water storage tank to your tap, average ceiling height roughly 3meter so taking onto consideration the height that your basin is off the ground on the upstairs of your house you should have 3meter - 1 meter ( height of your basin) you should have .2 bar pressure at your basin.

The tap you are looking at looks pretty unrestricted so you should have a good flow.
Just keep one thing on mind, if you see tap or shower fittings check the minimum working pressure, ie is it suitable for gravity or a pressurised system, if its pressurised you need a minimumof 1 bar pressure, so you will need to buya pump to operate it properly...god I think I might have a pint after that

Berberis

Cheers for that, everything should be good to go they with these ones, touch wood.
Enjoy your pint

Berberis

Just to update if anyone else in the same boat. Ikea gave full refund as taps were in origional packaging and the new taps purchased work a treat.
Thanks to everyone who gave advice

phelixoflaherty

Looks like I've joined an exclusive club, or have membership purchased by herself.
Installed it over weekend and the same low pressure problem.
Looked at the long 10mm pipe and there seems to be a non return valve in the 1/2" fitting end.

I suppose removing this would be a no no.
Or removing it and fitting a larger non return valve in line.


Any opinions.

jimmy180sx

phelixoflaherty wrote: »

Looks like I've joined an exclusive club, or have membership purchased by herself.
Installed it over weekend and the same low pressure problem.
Looked at the long 10mm pipe and there seems to be a non return valve in the 1/2" fitting end.

I suppose removing this would be a no no.
Or removing it and fitting a larger non return valve in line.


Any opinions.

I think you might be reffering to the quarter turn ball valve. This isolates the sink/basin/wc and will allow you to disconnect from the system.

Any pics?

phelixoflaherty

No Jimmy
The long copper pipe that came with the tap, I can only blow one way.
The one way valve in it looks like a piece of rubber.