The day may come when...

Pat Mustard

...you are alone, surrounded, outnumbered 10-1, out of fuel and out of ammunition. There has been no electrical power for the previous 12 months.

You were in an unfamiliar shopping centre looking for food, but zombies appeared and you fell back, inadvertently trapping yourself in a high-walled yard with a locked gate.

There's nowhere to run. Zombies are closing in fast. You have to fight.

What weapon(s) have you brought with you for this possibility?

The criteria are:
1. You have to be capable of buying it now, pre ZA.
2. It has to be legal to have in Ireland now (no grenades, no nukes).
3. You can buy it over the net if you want (post link).
4. No power, ammo, fuel left anymore, so electrical appliances, guns and flamethrowers are ineffective.
5. Misc. common-sense criteria (you have to capable of carrying it, etc.)

cyberwolf77

I have a bat, motorcross protective armor, and a good pair of boots. These cadavers are getting shredded

paulmclaughlin

Katana if I had training to properly use one. Only legal to hold in Ireland with a legitimate reason (being trained and for ornamental use).

Pat Mustard

This is based on a Chinese Dadao, last used against the Japs in the 1930s.

As demonstrated by the enthusiastic fat man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PQiaurIiDM

ScumLord

The Mustard wrote: »

...you are alone, surrounded, outnumbered 10-1, out of fuel and out of ammunition. There has been no electrical power for the previous 12 months.

You were in an unfamiliar shopping centre looking for food, but zombies appeared and you fell back, inadvertently trapping yourself in a high-walled yard with a locked gate.

Just to be pedantic, I don't expect to have any or much ammunition to begin with. Guns are few and far between in this country. Also, I doubt there's going to be any food left in a supermarket after a years worth of raiding.

But anyway, I have my trusty fubar and his cousin mr hammer. The fubar is a demolition hammer so it serves many purposes.

Pat Mustard

ScumLord wrote: »

I doubt there's going to be any food left in a supermarket after a years worth of raiding.

That makes sense. Well, I suppose people might risk breaking into shopping centres for other useful stuff that might still be stocked after a year; clothes, shoes, disinfectant, medicines from the pharmacy, etc.

ScumLord wrote: »

I have my trusty fubar and his cousin mr hammer. The fubar is a demolition hammer so it serves many purposes.

The Fubar is a solid 4lbs in weight, but has an overall length of only 18 inches. It's a versatile tool, but more of an improvised weapon rather than one which would be deliberately chosen for self-defence, in my opinion. If you had expected the above scenario to occur at some stage, would it be your first choice of weapon to defend you from a multiple zombie assault at close range, given the above constraints? Or the hammer?

Tzar Chasm

i'd have my pike, oh and black powder, bucket loads of black powder, I have been practicing making it, first few batches we we basicly plant food but a couple of the last ones worked

plus I wont run out of fuel, engine oil maybe but diesel is surprisingly easy to make


as for my ultimate weapon, well I plan on using stealth and avoidance so i hopefully wont end up in such a predicament

Pat Mustard

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

i'd have my pike,

The pike was effective at certain things, and it certainly had it's place in history, but if you are alone, surrounded and outnumbered by zombies at close range, I think it would be a poor choice, personally.

First, pikes are fairly long (10ft+). If the zeds got up close to you, like in the above scenario, you'd be in trouble.

Second, pikes were effective when used alongside other pikemen, creating a 'wall' of pike-heads to stop cavalry, for instance. In this scenario, you'd be alone.

Maybe you could use it to pole-vault over the wall.

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

oh and black powder, bucket loads of black powder, I have been practicing making it, first few batches we we basicly plant food but a couple of the last ones worked

I wasn't sure about this at first, so I looked it up. Seems plausible. The ingredients wouldn't be that difficult to source. Break out the old blunderbuss?

Tzar Chasm wrote: »

plus I wont run out of fuel, engine oil maybe but diesel is surprisingly easy to make

Do you mean biodiesel? I'm not convinced that diesel is easy to make. If it was, wouldn't it be widespread practise? Maybe post links to back up your statement.

Maybe you talking about running diesel engines on vegetable oil?

ScumLord

The Mustard wrote: »

That makes sense. Well, I suppose people might risk breaking into shopping centres for other useful stuff that might still be stocked after a year; clothes, shoes, disinfectant, medicines from the pharmacy, etc.

Mostly gone I'd say, although shopping centres would have many electric motors (the shutter doors) CCTV systems and plenty of scrap metal.

The Fubar is a solid 4lbs in weight, but has an overall length of only 18 inches. It's a versatile tool, but more of an improvised weapon rather than one which would be deliberately chosen for self-defence, in my opinion. If you had expected the above scenario to occur at some stage, would it be your first choice of weapon to defend you from a multiple zombie assault at close range, given the above constraints? Or the hammer?

The hammer would probably be a slightly better weapon, one strike to the head would drop a zombie. The fubar would be the same but also has the benefit of having a stabbing weapon at the other end in the nail bar. It will help prevent me getting trapped as I can use it to bust through doors/walls as well as having a one blow kill rate.

Pat Mustard

ScumLord wrote: »

The hammer would probably be a slightly better weapon, one strike to the head would drop a zombie.

That reminds me of this legend:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRBwvIX7Sao

Pat Mustard

cyberwolf77 wrote: »

I have a bat, motorcross protective armor, and a good pair of boots. These cadavers are getting shredded

Pretty much covers all the angles!

Remmy

I have a double bitted felling axe that I use for chopping down trees/chopping up firewood. It's pretty damn sharp and I have used it so much that it feels like a third arm. Only thing is that I'd feel guilty fcuking up the blade on a zombie skull so I'd probably nip down to Telfords and pick up up a beater one when the zombie apocalypse should arise.

ScumLord

Remmy wrote: »

Only thing is that I'd feel guilty fcuking up the blade on a zombie skull

Zombies shouldn't pose too much of a problem for it, especially after a few months. Bone may start to get soft or at the other scale brittle depending on exposure. Either way the skull probably won't be nearly as strong as when it was alive.

TheBegotten

Ah, the trusty titanium alloy crowbar, must have for survivors. In that situ however, I'd rely on my own little creation, two hammers with cheesewire threaded through the bottom of the shafts. Spin for longer ranges, cheesewire off appendages and smash bone with the hammers!
Alternatively, a few bolas are easy to make and can be quite proficiant, whether thrown or used at hand to hand combat.

Grizzly 45

The good ol traditional briar or slash hook.Cheap & cheerful and very sharp,and just needs a longer shaft if preferred,with a cross piece to prevent Z's running up the shaft to get at you.

BTW any of you have a look at www.zombiegoboom.com ??
They do some silly reviews of things that make Z's go well..boom!

Ms. Pingui

A spoon. :cool: