2013 History

SeanyboyQPR

I know everyone is going to say it's early and not to be thinking so far ahead, but I'm gonna ask anyway. What does everyone think are possible essays to come up this year?

The next few years and recent years gone by have been and will be very much anniversary based where Irish history is concerned, a prime example being The Eucharistic Congress of 22 which came up last year (2012). Personally I'm banking on The Lockout, but not having all my eggs in one basket at the same time.. I do believe it to be a strong possibility though. Wondering if anyone here/their teachers have made any predictions?

Another thing, which I'm not quite sure is frequently asked (please don't shoot me down) is whether a solid knowledge of the case studies is sufficient for the exam? With the exception of Parnell/Butt etc.

TheFlayedMan

A repeat student in my class had a list of the most likely essays to appear and he used it to correctly predict his questions last year (getting an A2). Of course, he studied others but the sheet proved correct.

When I get a copy, I'll post some predictions.

SeanyboyQPR

That'd be sweet, much appreciated.. Without some kind of educated guesswork it could be such a lottery..!

TheFlayedMan

On the topic, which books are you doing? I ask because my teacher opted to do Movements for Reform and Sovereignty and Partition in the Irish History side, so I don't know about this Eucharistic Congress.

phoenix999

The Congress is dealt with in the Sovereignty and Partition book. Check the following:

Www.multitext.ie

TheFlayedMan

Oh right. It's our final book, and we haven't even reached the War of Independence yet.

frenchie03

My teacher is banking on the strike and lockout 1913/ maybe Cumann na Ngadheal Gov because they were formed in 1923!
Hope that helps!

user.name

Im just going to study all case studies in detail with some knowledge surrounding them. You are always going to get at least one question on case studies. I have a strong feeling katanga will come up this year though

BrownBear11

Anyone think that they might be horrible and throw up India for the document question again? Hows that for unpredictability :pac:

0mega

BrownBear11 wrote: »

Anyone think that they might be horrible and throw up India for the document question again? Hows that for unpredictability :pac:

Not a big deal, just learn India to be safe. The document questions are grand - just know the main points, in a 2 page essay you don't need any great detail.

BrownBear11

0mega wrote: »

Not a big deal, just learn India to be safe. The document questions are grand - just know the main points, in a 2 page essay you don't need any great detail.

Yeah, I plan to So many won't though. It would be like English P2 all over again :pac: True, nicest question on the paper

frenchie03

Really doubt India will come up! I think Katanga will come up too.
What essays do you guys think will come up?

user.name

frenchie03 wrote: »

Really doubt India will come up! I think Katanga will come up too.
What essays do you guys think will come up?

I reckon this year is going to be a toughy, they most likely will put Katanga up, France is a bit too easy. I'd say they'll throw on sunningdale, the nuremburg rallies and the treaty negotiatons

last years leaving cert was nicer :pac:

TheFlayedMan

Katanga isn't too bad, I think India is the worst. But that's just personal opinion, the document questions are the least important on the paper anyway.

mossy95

India is shocking for me but I know some stuff, katanga is my best I love it and France dont have a clue

frenchie03

Katanga is grand, France dont totally understand it,, but just know the contextualisation questions really well and youll be fine! any one get history predictions sheet for 2013? Or what essays are you guys studying for the pre????

frenchie03

Do any of you guys have predictions for French/English/Irish,, I heard they were given out some hints at Xmas revision courses?

frenchie03

Do you guys have any predictions for higher level french/english/irish/business or home-ec ? I know some hints were given out at xmas revision courses? Help would be appreciated!

mossy95

So do we need to study india as it came up last year?

LostBoy101

mossy95 wrote: »

So do we need to study india as it came up last year?

No, and I don't see the logic behind it. Why put up India again when only 2 out of 3 documents come up in 2 year period? I'm certain that Katanga will come up because they can ask loads of questions on it and people have been talking about it on the television recently.

frenchie03

LostBoy101 wrote: »

No, and I don't see the logic behind it. Why put up India again when only 2 out of 3 documents come up in 2 year period? I'm certain that Katanga will come up because they can ask loads of questions on it and people have been talking about it on the television recently.

I totally agree! they have never repeated a case study over the years any way!
Just know a little backround as it can relate a bit to the other case studies!

LostBoy101

frenchie03 wrote: »

I totally agree! they have never repeated a case study over the years any way!
Just know a little backround as it can relate a bit to the other case studies!

Aye exactly it's not that hard to study if you just get your head around it.

0mega

India is still examinable though and there's enough content in it that they could easily put it up again but with a different angle and essay title.

If you're looking to do well, I'd cover all bases if you ask me tbh. They're trying to make the LC less predictable in recent years.

Scuid Mhór

TheFlayedMan wrote: »

A repeat student in my class had a list of the most likely essays to appear and he used it to correctly predict his questions last year (getting an A2). Of course, he studied others but the sheet proved correct.

When I get a copy, I'll post some predictions.

When you do, would you mind PMing me in case I miss it? It'd be much appreciated.

LostBoy101

0mega wrote: »

India is still examinable though and there's enough content in it that they could easily put it up again but with a different angle and essay title.

If you're looking to do well, I'd cover all bases if you ask me tbh. They're trying to make the LC less predictable in recent years.

To be honest you are given 3 case studies and they are done in a 2 year period. It doesn't make sense to do India again and the two other case studies are just a waste of time..

Kate_B7

I say katangas the most likely for the document anyways, france seems too easy!

0mega

LostBoy101 wrote: »

To be honest you are given 3 case studies and they are done in a 2 year period. It doesn't make sense to do India again and the two other case studies are just a waste of time..

You could say that for anything though. In English there will be poets that will come up two years in a row and a poet that won't come up for years. It might not 'make sense' but if the LC becomes too predictable it won't be an accurate representation of ability. They threw a few curveballs in last year to catch people out who were relying on predictions, so I'd just be wary of them this year.

iiHyPeRize

They always tend to ask the 'hardest' document the first year they're up, last year India came up, I thought India was the easiest but yeah... Katanga is probably going to appear his year, they don't really throw up the same document in successive years, but the leaving cert is becoming harder to predict every year, so you'd never know.

iiHyPeRize

Kate_B7 wrote: »

I say katangas the most likely for the document anyways, france seems too easy!

When I did my leaving cert the first time in 2011, before I had to repeat it was the last year of them documents. The three were The Sunningdale agreement, Coleraine University Crisis and the Apprentice boys of Derry.
Sunningdale came up the year before and the Apprentice boys was really easy, I mean really easy like the France one, everyone assumed Coleraine would come up, but hey, the threw up the easy one, the one nobody thought was coming up the Apprentice boys.
So be weary with predictions.

frenchie03

The France race relations document is actually in my opinion way harder than the Katanga one!!!

user.name

If anyone wants notes on Katanga I pretty much sumed up the whole chapter myself. I got an a with them in the documents they might be of some help to someone :P

elko994

Our teacher said that there's a good chance of the lockout and maybe James Craig and the Unionists because that was happening around 1913 too.

LostBoy101

user.name wrote: »

If anyone wants notes on Katanga I pretty much sumed up the whole chapter myself. I got an a with them in the documents they might be of some help to someone :P

If you can do that, it would be great help. Cheers!

user.name

LostBoy101 wrote: »

If you can do that, it would be great help. Cheers!

Sure just send me your email in PM:P

J_A

Does anyone think that the Eucharistic Congress and social differences North and South will come up on the mock? As either or both come up pretty much every year in the actual exam? Also, in the green book (don't have it to hand so I'm uncertain of its proper name) GAA, the Gaelic League and the Anglo-Irish literacy revival all come up as "cultural revival" pretty much every year, do you think learning those topics from the two Irish History books would be safe for the mocks? I'm running out of time to try learn every single chapter
Also, anyone and ideas of what might come up under dictatorship and democracy?

MrCraigButler

user.name wrote: »

If anyone wants notes on Katanga I pretty much sumed up the whole chapter myself. I got an a with them in the documents they might be of some help to someone :P

that would be sweet if you could send them on ! thanks

MrCraigButler

do we have to write 2 essays on ireland and one on Europe and the wider world , or vice versa

LostBoy101

J_A wrote: »

Does anyone think that the Eucharistic Congress and social differences North and South will come up on the mock? As either or both come up pretty much every year in the actual exam? Also, in the green book (don't have it to hand so I'm uncertain of its proper name) GAA, the Gaelic League and the Anglo-Irish literacy revival all come up as "cultural revival" pretty much every year, do you think learning those topics from the two Irish History books would be safe for the mocks? I'm running out of time to try learn every single chapter
Also, anyone and ideas of what might come up under dictatorship and democracy?

Eucharistic Congress is done to death in the real thing and if it came up on the mock I wouldn't be surprised because the mocks don't really give a real indication of whats coming up in June. Don't worry about the mocks too much.

shootie

My teacher says that it was be a travesty if India came up (she used them exact words) since it came up last year in both the mocks and the LC. She's 95% sure that it's either Katanga/France for the documents, France being the most likely of the two. I'm not taking any chances though.

Nice to see an Irish QPR fan, we are a rare breed.

Kate_B7

Anyone know in the northern ireland section how Civil rights & The welfare state could come up together? My teacher was hinting at it for the pres and dont know how to go about it!:/

Sucette!

Would anyone know the maximum amount of worlds needed for the History research project - extended? Mines about 1620 is that to much?

0mega

Sucette! wrote: »

Would anyone know the maximum amount of worlds needed for the History research project - extended? Mines about 1620 is that to much?

Nope, as long as you can fit it into the booklet that would be grand. Just write a bit smaller than you normally would maybe.

Sucette!

0mega wrote: »

Nope, as long as you can fit it into the booklet that would be grand. Just write a bit smaller than you normally would maybe.

Thank you

DonallFitz

Just assume the essays that came up last year will NOT be coming up this year. Best assumption anyone can make

Kate_B7

Anyone know the date the project has to be in for?:)

DonallFitz

Kate_B7 wrote: »

Anyone know the date the project has to be in for?:)

My teacher told me 23 April. Best be finished before that!

tracyc123

please do on <email address removed>

Please do not post email addresses. PM the OP if necessary

mixery

Does anyone now where can I find an A standard h.l history essay? No specific title, but from one of those books - democracy and dictatorship, pursuit of sovereignty, or movement for political and soc reforms.
I want to find out what I'm doing wrong, and in my class there is absolutely no one who gets remotely good grades. I'd really like to improve on my essays, as I would hate to come out of the exam knowing that I knew what to write, but not how.

user.name

mixery wrote: »

Does anyone now where can I find an A standard h.l history essay? No specific title, but from one of those books - democracy and dictatorship, pursuit of sovereignty, or movement for political and soc reforms.
I want to find out what I'm doing wrong, and in my class there is absolutely no one who gets remotely good grades. I'd really like to improve on my essays, as I would hate to come out of the exam knowing that I knew what to write, but not how.

I can scan my stalin essay from the mocks for u i got an a in it i think :P

mixery

If you could do that, that'd be great! I'll send you my e-mail in PM.