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Jobs in Dublin (no experience needed)

  • 12-10-2012 6:14pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17


    Hello! I am new here in this forum and from Germany. :)

    I will be finished with school next year, so me and a friend wanted to do a few work and travel months *6.5 in Ireland.

    We wanted to start in Dublin in the middle of March 2013 and stay there for a few months.

    However, due to the fact that I am still a student at High School I've had only one internship and unfortunately no work experience, either her.

    So, we thought about getting work at Cafes, Pubs, the supermarket, hotels, helping on farms etc.

    My question to you is> Can I only apply if someone is needed or is it possible just to go into a cafe and ask if it is possible to work there for about a month for about 28/30 hours a week, part time.


    It is really hard on the internet to find jobs for work and travellers. I have found a few pages but it is not much. Do you know any other?

    Thank You!
    :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭user.name


    Things may be good in Germany for work but here its the exact opposite. People are leaving this country everyday because they can't find work. People living here cannot find work. I'm not trying to put you off coming here but its almost impossible to find work here even in cafes and pubs etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    Mmh, I thought it would be at least fine to find some for just a few months... and then go back to G. and start Universtiy.

    Probably I will try to find some, it has only to be a little job in order to support a room in a shared apartment.

    Thx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Every job in a cafe/bar/resteraunt/supermarket probably gets several applicants, in cities like dublin each of those jobs would get 100+ applicants, many of them with college/university degrees.

    You could go in and just ask for a job but its unlikely it will work for you. I know people that have been constantly applying for jobs like you are looking for for several months and have not found anything.

    Your best option would be to try to look for call center/customer support jobs where a language is needed.

    Just for your information the hours you stated are full time in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nelly_Lemon


    Try call centres, they are always looking for German speakers and in most cases, no experience is necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    +1 for call centres, huge turnover in those places

    Your language skills are a plus

    Now you just need endless patience and the ability to take abuse!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    paypal and ebay always looking for German speakers.

    Plus going into a cafe/bar etc and telling them that you are looking for 28/30 hours per week won't work in Ireland. We don't operate in that way. As another poster said, that is practically full time hours. Most cafe's etc employ students on flexible part time hours - when they are busy you get hours, when they are not you get less. So in a coffee shop/ bar/ restaurant etc you will get a contract for a minimum number of hours (usually around 10 hours or so) and then everything after that is on a flexible basis. To guarantee 28/30 hours you will need to possibly get two jobs.

    And again, the student population in Ireland are struggling to get even one job, let alone two. The reason is because things are so bad here for employment that jobs that were traditionally taken by students are now experiencing strong competition from older and more experienced professionals because people are literally desperate for any work they can get.

    Also, even despite the recession, accommodation in Ireland is much more expensive than in Germany. Especially in city centre. 30 hours at minimum wage won't leave you much spare cash for any socialising or any extras.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    Yes you'r right, I have heard of the extreme crisis in Ireland.

    I guess the best is to safe as much money as possible before going to Ireland. Just in case I and my friend can't get a job.

    Let's say I would get one 10 h per week/ 5 days with a minimum wage of 6? Euros. That would make 240 Euros! It is impossible to survive on that because I have to pay for a room which is at least 300/350 Euros, then the Bus, Food ... :/

    But getting a call centre job is a good idea.
    What about working at McDonalds, are the many applicants?

    And I have also heard of working in a hostel and because of that you can get free accommodation.

    I also searched for hotel house keeper but they always want experienced ones.




    We chose Ireland because the flights to the USA and Australia are too expensive, as well about 4000-5000 Euros savings are needed for these countries.
    For sure all pupils who go there after Highschool want to practice their English in these countries and get to know other things different from you home country.

    And what about working in a Supermarket like Tesco? How are the chances there let's say full time.


    Thank You Again! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Waterlilie wrote: »
    Let's say I would get one 10 h per week/ 5 days with a minimum wage of 6? Euros. That would make 240 Euros! It is impossible to survive on that because I have to pay for a room which is at least 300/350 Euros, then the Bus, Food ... :/

    But getting a call centre job is a good idea.
    What about working at McDonalds, are the many applicants?

    And I have also heard of working in a hostel and because of that you can get free accommodation.

    I also searched for hotel house keeper but they always want experienced ones.




    We chose Ireland because the flights to the USA and Australia are too expensive, as well about 4000-5000 Euros savings are needed for these countries.
    For sure all pupils who go there after Highschool want to practice their English in these countries and get to know other things different from you home country.

    And what about working in a Supermarket like Tesco? How are the chances there let's say full time.


    Thank You Again! :)

    Minimum wage is €6.06 for an inexperienced worker.

    There are thousands of people looking for jobs in each McDonalds.

    You could try a few hostels, I would assume most of them have staff already.

    A relative is a manager of a nearby Tesco, they have had 15,000 applicants in 2012. Also managers in Tesco are not allowed to hire people anymore unless it is 100% necessary, every manager in Tesco has a max limit per month that they can spend on wages and it has been reduced quite frequently in the last few years.

    Most supermarkets in Ireland don't hire full time anymore, most staff are part time excpet managers. Part time in Ireland is < 21 hours per week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    The only reason anyone would have to hire you is that you can speak more than one language. For every other job there are plenty of experienced people willing to take the job.

    Things are so bad I know a teacher that's working selling ice cream and an accountant working at the tills in a supermarket. At an absolute minimum in Dublin there are 50,000 people looking for work a lot of these people have been looking for a long time, I've been looking for a job since june with no luck and I have 3 years experience in Managment and IT. So the best thing for you is probably to get the idea of finding a job in Ireland out of your head, you'll end up coming here and running out of money fast. The only real chance you have is finding a job that needs German. Other than that you would need to be very lucky to find a job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Waterlilie wrote: »
    Let's say I would get one 10 h per week/ 5 days with a minimum wage of 6? Euros. That would make 240 Euros! It is impossible to survive on that because I have to pay for a room which is at least 300/350 Euros, then the Bus, Food ... :/
    exactly...welcome to Ireland. Please send our regards to Angela Merkel ;)
    And unlike Germany, public transport is extremely expensive in comparison.
    What about working at McDonalds, are the many applicants?
    in recent years there have literally been queues of people a kilometer long for positions in McDonalds, and convenience stores.
    And I have also heard of working in a hostel and because of that you can get free accommodation.
    never heard of that - think it might actually be against labour laws, but it might be an unofficial thing. But even if you get your accommodation free, you will still have to pay for food and general expenses. Things are not cheap in Ireland, despite the fact that no one has any money!



    We chose Ireland because the flights to the USA and Australia are too expensive, as well about 4000-5000 Euros savings are needed for these countries.
    you will need about the same in savings for Ireland if you want to have a secure and safe place to stay, food in your belly and a decent social life.
    And what about working in a Supermarket like Tesco? How are the chances there let's say full time.
    again, the competition for these jobs is fierce. And again, in most retail or catering jobs you will find it difficult to get guaranteed full time. You will not be able to be certain of any hours above your contract which as I said before is usually about 10 or 15 hours per week.

    If you are looking to come, why not come for less time as an extended holiday? Or look into coming as part of an educational exchange programme? or possibly spend your money enrolling in a language school - they will then be able to arrange accommodation for you and you will also have set classes to assist you with improving your English. I would also say it is a much safer option for someone of your age.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Little Ted wrote: »
    never heard of that - think it might actually be against labour laws, but it might be an unofficial thing. But even if you get your accommodation free, you will still have to pay for food and general expenses. Things are not cheap in Ireland, despite the fact that no one has any money!

    Nope, its legal but you have to pay tax on your accommodation. Its called benifit in kind when you are paid with something other than money. Basically you pay the going rate of what it would have cost in tax even if its free.

    So if a hostel cost €100 per week (I have no idea what a hostel costs) but you get to stay free because you work there you then have to pay €21 per week in tax on your free accommodation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    :D Haha I will send regards to Angie

    Ok, You're probably right, I guess then I will just stay for 3 months until the end of June, as you said it is much safer.
    :)

    After that I will just do an internship back here in order to go through the time till Uni.

    I knew it was bad over there but not that bad :/ However it is good to hear some natives opinions, in order to know what to do :) so thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Nelly_Lemon


    If you do go for a job in a call centre, dont tell them its just for a few months, tell the recuiter you wish to stay for at least a year. Money is crap you'll probably get around 20000k per annum before tax, but its enough to get by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    I won't be able to stay for a year ... I will have to go to university!

    I just figured out before studying I have to do a 3 months internship. It is interior architecture and it is required. :D I just read it! Ok, so I won't be able to stay 6 months as I wanted to.

    So I can only stay for 3 months. April, May, June

    July, August, September - internship

    and October - University

    But I think I can "survive" 3 months on savings or at least most of it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭Shinaynay


    GarIT wrote: »
    Every job in a cafe/bar/resteraunt/supermarket probably gets several applicants, in cities like dublin each of those jobs would get 100+ applicants, many of them with college/university degrees.

    You could go in and just ask for a job but its unlikely it will work for you. I know people that have been constantly applying for jobs like you are looking for for several months and have not found anything.

    Your best option would be to try to look for call center/customer support jobs where a language is needed.

    Just for your information the hours you
    anythingstated are full time in Ireland.
    Anything under 32 hrs is parttime. I work 40 hrs a week. I thibk some places would ve delighted for the oppurtunity to have someone wrk for just the Summer months without having to worry about keeping you on, paid holidays etc etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I'm calling BS on this thread.

    I know "ireland hits rock bottom" is not the front page of every German paper like it is here everyday, but I still find it hard to believe that someone would need it explained to them repeatedly that McDonalds, Tesco, etc are al fully stocked, due to our recession and unemployment rate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 169 ✭✭kodoherty93


    Look at monster.ie and you may find a german speaking job. Obviously don't tell them you are here for a few months. Tell them a year but just give them 30 days notice of quit.


    My parents are landlords and have dozens of non nationals that find jobs no problem. But are mostly job related to their language. Germans generally work in a call centre for companies like oracle and google which have hundreds of German speakers.

    Wages in these jobs are like €8.65 minimum per hour maybe €10. But unlike German there is no tax eg income or church tax. Plus no health insurance. So a job at €8.65 will give you 8.65 per hour. Rent is quite expensive in Dublin and you would probably rent a room in a house in the suburbs eg glasnevin, deumcondra and cycle to work.

    Look at daft.ie for houses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Wages in these jobs are like €8.65 minimum per hour maybe €10.

    It depends upon OP's age and level of experience. If they have less than one years experience the minimum wage would be €6.06. Not sure if the large companies pay different rates to younger and less experienced staff, but definitely something to bear in mind.
    But unlike German there is no tax eg income or church tax
    Eh, we do have income tax in Ireland!:confused: At €8.65 per hour or higher PAYE and PRSI could well apply depending on how many hours are worked. If it is under 30 then probably not, but over that and if you are on €10 or so you might find yourself having some deductions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Ch1986


    Waterlilie wrote: »

    minimum wage of 6? Euros. That would make 240 Euros! It is impossible to survive on that because I have to pay for a room which is at least 300/350 Euros, then the Bus, Food ... :/


    What about working at McDonalds, are the many applicants?






    Hi There,

    The minimum wage in Ireland is above 8 euro per hour, You can find a room (shared) for minimum 250 euro per month

    I am studying here for 2 years expecting to get a job when I arrived in Ireland, I applied in McDonalds via their website as you can't apply directly within the restaurant as it is usually the case in other european countries ( in fact, elsewhere no body wants to work for McDonalds)

    It took me 6 months to get a job here, probalbly due to the fact I am a student and I can work only part time, but the labour market is tough here. McDonalds called me and gave me a job. However, be aware that working for McDonald in a country that is currently in Recession links to abuse and pressure which makes the job even more awfull that what it is.

    Good luck for your research and try to get along with irish people, they are great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭cabincrewifly


    Ch1986 wrote: »
    Hi There,

    The minimum wage in Ireland is above 8 euro per hour, You can find a room (shared) for minimum 250 euro per month

    I am studying here for 2 years expecting to get a job when I arrived in Ireland, I applied in McDonalds via their website as you can't apply directly within the restaurant as it is usually the case in other european countries ( in fact, elsewhere no body wants to work for McDonalds)

    It took me 6 months to get a job here, probalbly due to the fact I am a student and I can work only part time, but the labour market is tough here. McDonalds called me and gave me a job. However, be aware that working for McDonald in a country that is currently in Recession links to abuse and pressure which makes the job even more awfull that what it is.

    Good luck for your research and try to get along with irish people, they are great.

    If you wouldn't mind sharing what is the rate of pay at McDonalds these days?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Janedoe10


    Waterlilie wrote: »
    I won't be able to stay for a year ... I will have to go to university!

    I just figured out before studying I have to do a 3 months internship. It is interior architecture and it is required. :D I just read it! Ok, so I won't be able to stay 6 months as I wanted to.

    So I can only stay for 3 months. April, May, June

    July, August, September - internship

    and October - University

    But I think I can "survive" 3 months on savings or at least most of it! :)

    Not endorsing it but any job u apply for u wouldn't want to be telling some one u can only wrk 3 months, by the time u are "trained" u will be gone again. Check call centers/agency's . U should email your cv into them and suss out the market . Your Lang is a bonus and marketable over here ! In a way it's prob too early to say u are avail for wrk cause u are not well not right now any way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭m.j.w


    syklops wrote: »
    I'm calling BS on this thread.

    I know "ireland hits rock bottom" is not the front page of every German paper like it is here everyday, but I still find it hard to believe that someone would need it explained to them repeatedly that McDonalds, Tesco, etc are al fully stocked, due to our recession and unemployment rate.

    I agree, is the op not just someone taking the ****. They cant afford to goto australia or canada so they come to Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Ch1986 wrote: »
    Hi There,

    The minimum wage in Ireland is above 8 euro per hour, You can find a room (shared) for minimum 250 euro per month

    as mentioned before, the minimum wage is dependent upon your age and experience. To get €8.65 per hour you need to be over 18 and have 2 years experience.
    Since 1 July 2011 the National Minimum Wage Act provides the following sub-minimum rates, see also 'Rates' below:
    • An employee who is under 18 is entitled to €6.06 per hour (this is 70% of the minimum wage)
    • An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.92 per hour (80% of minimum wage)
    • An employee who is in the second year of employment since the date of first employment over the age of 18 is entitled to €7.79 per hour (90% of the minimum wage)
    This phasing in of the national minimum wage also applies to employees who are over 18 and enter employment for the first time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭WRENALDO


    In the summer months over here you could try work in the betting industry . I have worked there for the last 10 years and though it quietens off in the winter months it picks up again late March/early April with the summer race meetings the retail shops stay open till 9.30 pm etc and college students are usually hired.
    Fire off your c.v. to Paddy Powers/Boylesports/Ladbrokes they are the big three but there are others. Get in early start of february etc.
    The money is usually better than the likes of Tesco and a much better place to work.
    It would be a big help if your a sport minded but its not essential.
    Where theres a will theres a way . If you want to come Ireland in the summer some of the comments here are far too negative.
    Plenty of work in call centres with a language too ebay etc. Just dont mention you are going back too college and you should get yourself a job for the summer
    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Karri


    You should easily get jobs in call centers. And always tell them you are staying for at least a year. They know you wont(usually full turnover over 6-12 months), but it's part of the game. I've been in my current job for 1.5 years, and there's been at least 3-4 "waves" of people in that time...out of 10 maybe one or two will stay longer than a year.

    www.jobs.ie

    And search for German in Dublin. Loads of jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    WRENALDO wrote: »
    If you want to come Ireland in the summer some of the comments here are far too negative.

    Its not negative, its realistic. OP asked specifically about cafe/bar type jobs. They only want to work about 30 hours a week and only want to work for a month. They are a high school student - so under or close to 18 years of age with no previous work experience and no place to live. Upon arrival they will need to find a job that pays well enough to cover rent and, bills.

    Given all these factors, it is not negative to advise someone that this is a bad idea given the current state of employment.

    A call centre might give them a job, but they pay salaries per month, so OP would have to work a month before getting paid, at which stage they are looking to return home, so a job of this nature really isn't suitable for OP's needs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭WRENALDO


    Little Ted wrote: »
    Its not negative, its realistic. OP asked specifically about cafe/bar type jobs. They only want to work about 30 hours a week and only want to work for a month. They are a high school student - so under or close to 18 years of age with no previous work experience and no place to live. Upon arrival they will need to find a job that pays well enough to cover rent and, bills.

    Given all these factors, it is not negative to advise someone that this is a bad idea given the current state of employment.

    A call centre might give them a job, but they pay salaries per month, so OP would have to work a month before getting paid, at which stage they are looking to return home, so a job of this nature really isn't suitable for OP's needs.

    Fair enough missed the bit about only wanting to work for one month . OP did say they were coming for a few months though. Your right looking for work for just one month is unrealistic and rather unfair to an employer for that matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    If it's only for a holiday, have you thought of the wooffers. Get to live in the countryside, help on an organic farm and get free food and accommodation?
    I have a friend who uses wooffers and she has a stream of young and not so young people who come and stay for a few weeks. In return for some small jobs, they get a free stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Yire


    Well I chose Ireland to work because I was told that if there is work, more work than my country, Spain. I have money saved for four months, I hope to find it this time reading this, I feel a little letdown.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    Thanks for all the answers. :)

    @M.J.W I agree, is the op not just someone taking the ****. They cant afford to goto australia or canada so they come to Ireland?

    You shouldn't just make such a statement. :/
    I have been to the USA for a year, even to England for two weeks and many other countries!
    But you know it is safer to do a work and travel in Europe.
    And in order to go to Australia or the USA you need to have a bigger capital like (at least) 5.000 Euros. For sure the flight is far more expensive and my friend hasn't got the money, so we decided to do it somewhere in Europe.

    P.S. We are both over 18. In Germay you graduate usually when you are older than 18.


    I found a page helpx.net It looks pretty good, we thought about first applying for a job in a youthhostel for free accommondation.
    And thanks for the WWOOF page! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    Waterlilie wrote: »
    Thanks for all the answers. :)

    @M.J.W I agree, is the op not just someone taking the ****. They cant afford to goto australia or canada so they come to Ireland?

    You shouldn't just make such a statement. :/
    I have been to the USA for a year, even to England for two weeks and many other countries!
    But you know it is safer to do a work and travel in Europe.
    And in order to go to Australia or the USA you need to have a bigger capital like (at least) 5.000 Euros. For sure the flight is far more expensive and my friend hasn't got the money, so we decided to do it somewhere in Europe.

    P.S. We are both over 18. In Germay you graduate usually when you are older than 18.


    I found a page helpx.net It looks pretty good, we thought about first applying for a job in a youthhostel for free accommondation.
    And thanks for the WWOOF page! :)


    For someone who is not a native speaker of English your English is very very good. Unfortunately to be employed by ebay or paypal you need a degree, it's a must.

    Try hostels or farms they're always looking for students or even hotels as wells.

    Good luck and if you do come have a Great time in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    @freeze4real Thank You very much! :) I'll take these advices.

    Have a nice evening! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Unfortunately to be employed by ebay or paypal you need a degree, it's a must.

    Not it's not - I know a couple of people who work for paypal and only have high school/ secondary school level. If you have good language skills you will be considered - but of course at 18 with no work experience or references chances of getting a position are unlikely for OP. But in general, I just thought I'd point out that a degree is not a must for ebay or paypal - they will consider you if you have relevant previous experience and a language skill - particularly if it is in one of the less common languages in Ireland, such as arabic, korean, turkish etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Yire


    Thanks, you have animated me. I came with my couple to Ireland. First to study but in January we want to find work. I have an intermediate level, my boyfriend less level. People tell us that no level of English can not work here. I think someone will give us the opportunity to work cleaning for example. Regards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 Waterlilie


    I just wanted to "give an update". I finally got two jobs one in Galway, the other one close to Galway, each for about a month.
    (Work for free accommondation)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Yire


    Help! Need work! Unless I find anything, I'll go next month to another country, and do not want! What I can do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Yire


    I'm desperate! I read these posts and I get depressed. In Spain this work worse. My partner and I decided to come to Ireland to work and learn English ..... The problem is that Spanish, Italian ... we are migrating to the UK and Ireland to live a little better and not!
    If we do not work, I'll go for au pair and my boyfriend back to Spain ....
    a disaster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    Yire wrote: »
    I'm desperate! I read these posts and I get depressed. In Spain this work worse. My partner and I decided to come to Ireland to work and learn English ..... The problem is that Spanish, Italian ... we are migrating to the UK and Ireland to live a little better and not!
    If we do not work, I'll go for au pair and my boyfriend back to Spain ....
    a disaster
    Have you tried applying to ebay and paypal? Also allianz worldwide health have some language jobs.

    I'm not sure if your spoken and written English is of a high enough standard but its worth a try.


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