Krav Maga V Wing Chung

Noel Kinsella

1) Which is easier to pick up as a beginner ?
2) Which would be handier in a Street fight ?
3) Club or Lessons in Dublin or Meath ?
Thanks guys n girls.

yomchi

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

1) Which is easier to pick up as a beginner ?
2) Which would be handier in a Street fight ?
3) Club or Lessons in Dublin or Meath ?
Thanks guys n girls.

Question 1 and 2 depend on you mate.

Question 3, I'm not sure tbh

bill buchanan

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

1) Which is easier to pick up as a beginner ?
2) Which would be handier in a Street fight ?
3) Club or Lessons in Dublin or Meath ?
Thanks guys n girls.

I've done a bit of both. Found KM to be basically choreography and I'd regard it as being 90% useless "in the street" though I can't speak from a lot of first hand experience of fighting "in the street".

I though wing chun was great. I loved it. BUt I did it outside Ireland. When I tried to take it up on my return home, I found that nobody was sparring (I only checked 3 clubs. Not saying nobody in Ireland spars, but I was based in Dublin). So I didn't keep it up.
I'm now a student of kickboxing. I like it as much as I liked wing chun, though I know you're not asking about kickboxing.

I think the advice you'll get on here is that you should go to a KM club, or clubs, and do the same for wing chun. Work out which one you like better. if you like it, you'll stick at it, and there would be a tiny chance that you'll use it in the "street" someday, but you probably won't.

EDIT: To address your first question, KM is very easy to pick up. WC takes abit more time.

Michael O Leary

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

1) Which is easier to pick up as a beginner ?
2) Which would be handier in a Street fight ?
3) Club or Lessons in Dublin or Meath ?
Thanks guys n girls.

Hi Noel,

While I have never done Krav Maga, I have been training in Wing Tsun for the past 20 years and teaching in Blanchardstown for nearly 9 years so I might be able to help.

1) Sometimes the classical Wing Tsun guard, stance and movements can be a little difficult for beginners so what we have done is to simplify it for beginners so that they can use basic Wing Tsun at an earlier stage. Then as beginners go deeper they will see more of the beauty of the art and will appreciate how the advanced exercises are superimposed on top of their basic skills.
2) Again I know very little about Krav Maga however from the little I have read, Krav Maga and Wing Tsun share similar principles. Basically attack your attacker with punches, elbows, knees, etc.
3) We are in Blanchardstown and while we are County Dublin, we are five minutes drive from County Meath.

For further details or to arrange a free trial class, give me a shout on info@wingtsun-blanchardstown.ie or 086 3989345.

Regards,

Michael
www.wingtsun-blanchardstown.ie

Noel Kinsella

Michael O Leary wrote: »

Hi Noel,

While I have never done Krav Maga, I have been training in Wing Tsun for the past 20 years and teaching in Blanchardstown for nearly 9 years so I might be able to help.

1) Sometimes the classical Wing Tsun guard, stance and movements can be a little difficult for beginners so what we have done is to simplify it for beginners so that they can use basic Wing Tsun at an earlier stage. Then as beginners go deeper they will see more of the beauty of the art and will appreciate how the advanced exercises are superimposed on top of their basic skills.
2) Again I know very little about Krav Maga however from the little I have read, Krav Maga and Wing Tsun share similar principles. Basically attack your attacker with punches, elbows, knees, etc.
3) We are in Blanchardstown and while we are County Dublin, we are five minutes drive from County Meath.

For further details or to arrange a free trial class, give me a shout on info@wingtsun-blanchardstown.ie or 086 3989345.

Regards,

Michael
www.wingtsun-blanchardstown.ie

Thank you that sounds great how similar is this to wing chun Carl "lightning fist" Thompson "Wing Chun" is fighting for the British Bareknuckle Boxing Championship Belt later this month and I figured this style must be very effective ? How similar is Wing Chun and Wing Tsun ?
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BKBAD/ the info to him is on this facebook link. At over 40 years old I am looking for something with effective to learn maybe 5 or 10 good moves and practice them over and over till they become second nature ? Is what I am saying realistic or ridiculous ?
Thanks for the advice guys

Peetrik

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

I am looking for something with effective to learn maybe 5 or 10 good moves and practice them over and over till they become second nature ? Is what I am saying realistic or ridiculous ?

Perfectly realistic. There is absolutely no point in 'knowing' 60 techniques, each flashier than the last and being proficient at none of them.
A small number of techniques, each drilled until you could do them in your sleep is exactly the approach to take (for striking at any rate, I won't pretend to know anything about grappling).

pablohoney87

Peetrik wrote: »

Perfectly realistic. There is absolutely no point in 'knowing' 60 techniques, each flashier than the last and being proficient at none of them.
A small number of techniques, each drilled until you could do them in your sleep is exactly the approach to take (for striking at any rate, I won't pretend to know anything about grappling).

Not tosound like a broken record on these threads but you can drill these moves all you want. But its about HOW you drill them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imjmLWj5WCU

Even just watch the first 2 minutes

arybvtcw0eolkf

Peetrik wrote: »

Perfectly realistic. There is absolutely no point in 'knowing' 60 techniques, each flashier than the last and being proficient at none of them.
A small number of techniques, each drilled until you could do them in your sleep is exactly the approach to take (for striking at any rate, I won't pretend to know anything about grappling).

Or as is often said ~ Don't fear the man who practices 10,000 techniques, fear the man practices one technique 10,000 times.

Michael O Leary

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Thank you that sounds great how similar is this to wing chun Carl "lightning fist" Thompson "Wing Chun" is fighting for the British Bareknuckle Boxing Championship Belt later this month and I figured this style must be very effective ? How similar is Wing Chun and Wing Tsun ?
http://www.facebook.com/groups/BKBAD/ the info to him is on this facebook link. At over 40 years old I am looking for something with effective to learn maybe 5 or 10 good moves and practice them over and over till they become second nature ? Is what I am saying realistic or ridiculous ?
Thanks for the advice guys

Hi Noel,

Glad I could help. I dont know anything about Carl Thompson's Wing Chun so I can't comment.

Wing Chun and Ving Tsun are generic names for the art that Yip Man taught Bruce Lee. The head of our organisation calls his approach Wing Tsun.

Wing Tsun focuses on principles rather than techniques. It is similar approach to feeding a hungry man. Rather than giving him fish, we instead teach him how to fish. Once you understand the principles and the bio-mechanics behind Wing Tsun, you don't need techniques. However we do teach techniques or applications to beginners as examples of how the principles are applied. So there are relatively few Wing Tsun movements and so-called "advanced drills" in Wing Tsun are only there to hone the core movements.

By the way, I worked in Israel in 1992 and no-one that I talked to had heard about Krav Maga.

Regards,

Michael
www.wingtsun-blanchardstown.ie

Kungfu

bill buchanan wrote: »

Found KM to be basically choreography and I'd regard it as being 90% useless "in the street"
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Are you sure that wasn't just what the instructor concerned told you it was?

bill buchanan

Kungfu wrote: »

Are you sure that wasn't just what the instructor concerned told you it was?

I don't understand the question. Sorry