Basic and SpR training in Australia

Cream_crackers

Hi I am looking into Gradmed and after reading quite a lot about the competitiveness and length of time it may take to reach consultancy level, does anyone have experience of getting Basic specialist training and Higher specialist training in larger/teaching hopsitals in Australia? Would it be an altogether quicker route and from what I'm reading also for overworked and mistreated NCHDs here, is it a better system?

How has it been for recent graduates after their intern year or couple of years as a SHO who have gone that route to Australia?

dropinthocean

Cream_crackers wrote: »

Hi I am looking into Gradmed and after reading quite a lot about the competitiveness and length of time it may take to reach consultancy level, does anyone have experience of getting Basic specialist training and Higher specialist training in larger/teaching hopsitals in Australia? Would it be an altogether quicker route and from what I'm reading also for overworked and mistreated NCHDs here, is it a better system?

How has it been for recent graduates after their intern year or couple of years as a SHO who have gone that route to Australia?

Are you only interested in Australia? From what I've heard, its alot quicker if you go to the states. Unfortunately, you have to do the USMLE's first though.
Regarding Australia, I'd also love to know what the training is like over there after internship.

Cream_crackers

Yes, I am interested in information for the US as well

Vorsprung

What specialty are you interested in?

Edible

sorry for hijacking this thread, I'm in final year med, quite sure I want to go into psychiatry. I want to go to Australia or NZ after my intern year (no interest in the US), for a few years at least. how difficult would it be to get on a basic specialist training scheme in psychiatry over there straight after internship? does anyone know of any resources/websites (blogs, anything at all) for irish doctors working in australia/nz, just to get a bit more info on working conditions, visas etc as it's actually quite difficult to find anything?? cheers.

Cream_crackers

Vorsprung wrote: »

What specialty are you interested in?

Paediatrics at the moment but who knows that may change. Would appreciate any information you have on Australia.

Vorsprung

Cream_crackers wrote: »

Paediatrics at the moment but who knows that may change. Would appreciate any information you have on Australia.

To actually start in the system, it would certainly be easier to go over after you're 1st SHO year, start on general pads jobs and then work your way from there. To do this, you can go through recruitment agencies or apply to hospitals directly via recruitment sites operated by the state governments. The agencies will help you out with the visa paperwork, which can take many months and a couple of thousand euros to sort out, and if you go through the hospitals directly via the state sites (eg http://www.health.qld.gov.au/workforus/ for Queensland), you'll find many hospitals have their own in house visa team to help out with the process. The reason for going after 1st SHO year is that Australian hospitals increasingly want IMGs coming over to have more experience (happens a lot in QLD and Vic). Also note that Australia is hoping to become increasingly self sufficient with regard to doctors and has bumped up the number of places at medical schools there, in an effort really to cut down on the number of us going over. In reality, there will always be some demand for our services!

In terms of the training path, and I would suggest you check this for yourself because I only had one friend who did paeds there, most of my friends did medicine there and I did ED. Training is done through the RACP (equivalent to RCPI here) - have a look at their site:

http://www.racp.edu.au/page/becoming-physician