The Chastisement is about to come! 1/5

Onesimus

I really would like it if many could watch this video 1/5 parts.

Its a bit dated in its recording but full of a wealth of information. I hope you like it and let me know your thoughts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnz7YvMy5X0

totus tuus

Great video series, thanks for posting.

It seems that there is a great urgency to turn our lives around and heed the words of warning from Heaven. During biblical times God always used prophets/seers to warn people to turn back from sin, and I believe He is warning us even now! The sins of the world stinks to high heaven, such as abortions etc., God will not allow it to happen indefinately without intervention!

dvae

i only watched the first video, and I'm amazed how some people view crying
statues or images as a sign from god.
don't people know that god forbids even the making of images, never mind
the worshiping of them.

why would god send us signs from heaven, using idols and icons?
would this not make god a hypocrite?

I'm not saying that the statues in the video are not weeping blood, oil,
or even tears, but i am sure god is not making this happen.

Exodus 20:4-5

New International Version


4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

Onesimus

Deut. 4:15 - from this verse, Protestants say that since we saw "no form" of the Lord, we should not make graven images of Him.


Deut. 4:16 - of course, in early history Israel was forbidden to make images of God because God didn't yet reveal himself visibly "in the form of any figure."


Deut. 4:17-19 - hence, had the Israelites depicted God not yet revealed, they might be tempted to worship Him in the form of a beast, bird, reptile or fish, which was a common error of the times.


Exodus 3:2-3; Dan 7:9; Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:10; Luke 3:22; John 1:32; Acts 2:3- later on, however, we see that God did reveal himself in visible form (as a dove, fire, etc).


Deut. 5:8 - God's commandment "thou shall not make a graven image" is entirely connected to the worship of false gods. God does not prohibit images to be used in worship, but He prohibits the images themselves to be worshiped.


Exodus 25:18-22; 26:1,31 - for example, God commands the making of the image of a golden cherubim. This heavenly image, of course, is not worshiped by the Israelites. Instead, the image disposes their minds to the supernatural and draws them to God.


Num. 21:8-9 - God also commands the making of the bronze serpent. The image of the bronze serpent is not an idol to be worshiped, but an article that lifts the mind to the supernatural.


I Kings 6:23-36; 7:27-39; 8:6-67 - Solomon's temple contains statues of cherubim and images of cherubim, oxen and lions. God did not condemn these images that were used in worship.


2 Kings 18:4 - it was only when the people began to worship the statue did they incur God's wrath, and the king destroyed it. The command prohibiting the use of graven images deals exclusively with the false worship of those images.


1 Chron. 28:18-19 - David gives Solomon the plan for the altar made of refined gold with a golden cherubim images. These images were used in the Jews' most solemn place of worship.


2 Chron. 3:7-14 - the house was lined with gold with elaborate cherubim carved in wood and overlaid with gold.


Ezek. 41:15 - Ezekiel describes graven images in the temple consisting of carved likenesses of cherubim. These are similar to the images of the angels and saints in many Catholic churches.


Col. 1:15 - the only image of God that Catholics worship is Jesus Christ, who is the "image" (Greek "eikon") of the invisible God.

http://scripturecatholic.com/sacramentals.html#images

I hope this helps Dvae.

Jefferson9115

Everyone ! TAKE YOUR TABLETS ! Have a little lie down and it will be all ok in the morning....

Doc Farrell

There seems to be only two perspectives on these hundreds of alleged supernatural events/ experiences. Either, in each case, every person involved is maliciously and dishonestly trying to fraud people in order to gain something or else there is something supernatural going on.
That is really the sum of it. All that can be done is for the the viewer to investigate each case as thoroughly and objectively as possible and then, based on the facts, decide for themselves what they believe.

One of the big problems about alleged supernatural events is that after they happen a considerable number of fraudsters and delusonal clowns attach themselves to the event to exploit it for money. For example that clown who told people recently in Knock to stare at the sun.
Personally I think that there are thousands of miracles (that is events unexplainable to current scientific thinking) happening every day.
Added together, I think that there is something supernatural going on in some of these events , I certainly do not know what that is, but it is extra ordinary.

I have been looking at some of the medical cases for miracles in Lourdes and frankly how these serious and in some cases wretchedly painful illnesses simply vanished within 24 hours is a mystery to me.

There is already a big surge on YouTube towards false prophesies and end of days doomsaying. Follow the advice at the beginning of clip one and read up on what the Church officially has to say on visionaries. It's a messy, emotive subject.

I would caution readers unfamiliar with the supernatural to approach the subject as rationally and moderately as possible. Unbalanced minds can lose marbles without proper direction. There's a thread here on the subject, started by a delusional clown of sorts!
edit: ie me.

Onesimus

Simple faith is all we need.

lmaopml

Onesimus wrote: »

Simple faith is all we need.

Doc and Onesimus, I think both of you are telling a truth from a different perspective at times. You could be best of friends and already are..

There is nothing wrong with seeing a 'personal revelation' and taking the good out of it, there is also nothing wrong with being a skeptic, being careful. It's pride that is the great thief...

In all things be guided, by each other and by his Church which IS each other..don't ever see a dim wit unless you would become one.

We argue and reason and think we do good sometimes, but we're a community and THAT is the family we share in. A pretty cool one - it's His very own, and no doubt we love him, and that's the foundation we build on..despite everything we build and build and build..

Doc Farrell

Perhaps you should read my post more slowly, or perhaps I wasn't making myself clear. I'm not actually disagreeing with Onesimus, I'm saying:

I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

In other words it's essential to all the tools of reason and education in all aspects of faith.
That's why Lourdes for example has this committee:
http://www.lourdes-france.org/index.php?goto_centre=ru&contexte=en&id=907&id_rubrique=907#

Faith & Reason. Fides et Ratio.

The deluded fool mentioned in the last sentence is the poster who started a thread on miracles on this board a year ago, ie, me.

However there are certainly many con artists and self deluded extremists who attach themselves to possible supernatural events and end up causing massive damage to the faith of ordinary people. YouTube alone has hundreds of false prophets selling their wares and misguiding many poor souls with their extremist views. A quick google will normally indicate that they speak for no one but themselves.
Fides Et Ratio! Not Either Or!

lmaopml

I just You Tubed 'End Times' for the first time..lol....It's not something I ever had a great interest in.... mostly I'm just glad the world is still turning and I woke up this morning Ha.

Your dead right Doc, there's so much crap on there it's unbelievable, thousands of them, I never realised just how many are out there trying to guess this and that, putting their ideas out there about the 'END'... Indeed, it would be very easy to be misguided....

Cheerful people huh :pac: