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First puncture in 15 years.

  • 08-10-2012 4:53pm
    #1
    nudger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭


    Maybe I'm just lucky but it's been at least 15 years since i've had a flat, it was just a small screw stuck just off the thread towards the side wall.

    Do they still plug the tyre or patch it?

    I know on Moterbikes they don't like plugging any more.


    Mod, can you move this please.


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  • #2
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Removing the tyre to inspect for damage and patching from the inside is the correct way to repair car tyres.


  • #3
    dvae
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭dvae


    nudger wrote: »
    Maybe I'm just lucky but it's been at least 15 years since i've had a flat


    eek.png omg you must do very little mileage. i normally get 1-2 punctures a year.

    unless its a bad puncture they normally plug it.


  • #4
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    dvae wrote: »
    eek.png omg you must do very little mileage. i normally get 1-2 punctures a year.

    unless its a bad puncture they normally plug it.


    Which completely against industry standards though.


  • #5
    karrimor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13 ✭karrimor


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    Which completely against industry standards though.
    why any time i get a punctures i put a plug in it.


  • #6
    nudger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    dvae wrote: »
    eek.png omg you must do very little mileage. i normally get 1-2 punctures a year.

    unless its a bad puncture they normally plug it.

    About 250,000 without a flat.:D

    1-2 a year, stop buying second hands.


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  • #7
    nudger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    Which completely against industry standards though.

    That's what I was thinking, so in a serious accident could affect a claim?


  • #8
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    karrimor wrote: »
    why any time i get a punctures i put a plug in it.


    Because without removing the tyres you haven not inspected for any possible damage on the inside of the sidewall either from the screw or whatever or from driving with low pressure.

    Also, plugs are not designed for use in modern cars/tyres as the plug material will heat up at a different rate then the surrounding rubber, leading to, at best, a leak and, at worst, the plug blowing out at motorway speeds.


  • #9
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    nudger wrote: »
    That's what I was thinking, so in a serious accident could affect a claim?


    In a country with proper regulation of the industry yes, but in Ireland, even if you had an accident due to a blow out its unlikely that any in depth investigation by the insurance company would happen unfortunately.


  • #10
    pete4130
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    Plugging is pretty standard practice here in Australia.


  • #11
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    pete4130 wrote: »
    Plugging is pretty standard practice here in Australia.


    So is farmers driving at night time without any headlights on to save the bulbs in certain rural parts, says nothing about how right it is though:eek:


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  • #12
    nudger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Mrs nudger brought the wheel to a local (small) tyre garage today to get fixed but they told her that as it was on the sidewall (just) they did not recommend them fixing it but a bigger garage should be able to.:confused:

    It was a small enough screw and a small hole, I thought a patch would be handy enough to do, he said something to do with it being beside a wire.

    Is he right? and if so where would I bring it to?

    Its a nere new Continental contact 3.


  • #13
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    nudger wrote: »
    Mrs nudger brought the wheel to a local (small) tyre garage today to get fixed but they told her that as it was on the sidewall (just) they did not recommend them fixing it but a bigger garage should be able to.:confused:

    It was a small enough screw and a small hole, I thought a patch would be handy enough to do, he said something to do with it being beside a wire.

    Is he right? and if so where would I bring it to?

    Its a near new Continental contact 3.
    You could try Atlas, or Fast Fit aka First Point.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #14
    Bpmull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,042 ✭✭✭Bpmull


    Nissan doctor wrote: »
    In a country with proper regulation of the industry yes, but in Ireland, even if you had an accident due to a blow out its unlikely that any in depth investigation by the insurance company would happen unfortunately.

    I would always patch a tyre I don't believe in the plugs as you said they arent made for modern cars. A patch is the correct way to fix a tyre. Although in Kilkenny anyway they all plug as its handy for the tyre places. My dad went a couple of months ago with a puncture and said he wanted it patched and the guy looked at him but eventually patched it apparently nobody patchs tyres anymore according to the guy in the tyre place anyway. Still Id rather not risk a blow out just to save him a few minutes. Most people don't seem to realise how important tyres are.


  • #15
    nudger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nudger


    Esel wrote: »
    You could try Atlas, or Fast Fit aka First Point.

    Don't want to name the garage but they specialize in tyres/repairs and though small are always busy, would have thought they would have been better than the Fast Fits.

    Are Atlas good?


  • #16
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,093 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    nudger wrote: »
    Are Atlas good?
    Not for me to say in this instance. ;)

    I'm sure all the chain places have a policy regarding liability, though.
    nudger wrote:
    a local (small) tyre garage today ...told her that as it was on the sidewall (just) ..... he said something to do with it being beside a wire.
    Bring it somewhere else to see what they say, but at the end of the day tyres are a life or death issue.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #17
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    nudger wrote: »
    Mrs nudger brought the wheel to a local (small) tyre garage today to get fixed but they told her that as it was on the sidewall (just) they did not recommend them fixing it but a bigger garage should be able to.:confused:

    It was a small enough screw and a small hole, I thought a patch would be handy enough to do, he said something to do with it being beside a wire.

    Is he right? and if so where would I bring it to?

    Its a nere new Continental contact 3.

    This is a diagram of the recommended repair area's. It shouldn't matter where you go, if they are operating to the correct standards then you will get the same answer. You can't patch a sidewall or shoulder as they flex when driving and the patch will eventually come off. The same thing makes plugs in the shoulder/sidewall even more dangerous then in the threaded area.
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    Bpmull wrote: »
    I would always patch a tyre I don't believe in the plugs as you said they arent made for modern cars. A patch is the correct way to fix a tyre. Although in Kilkenny anyway they all plug as its handy for the tyre places. My dad went a couple of months ago with a puncture and said he wanted it patched and the guy looked at him but eventually patched it apparently nobody patchs tyres anymore according to the guy in the tyre place anyway. Still Id rather not risk a blow out just to save him a few minutes. Most people don't seem to realise how important tyres are.


    I would avoid anywhere who says something stupid like that TBH. No professionalism, training, interest in the job or safety IMO.


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