Did Cycling Ireland miss out on a grant??

Benbecul97

How come Cycling Ireland didn't apply for a grant??
All sports organisations that applied got a grant.


http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/other/26m-in-sports-grants-approved-569321.html

€2.4m in sports grants approved

Minister of State for Tourism & Sport Michael Ring has today approved grants of €2.4m for 21 national sports bodies.

The funding has been awarded to a range of national governing bodies including the Athletics Association, the Irish Rugby Football Union, Irish Wheelchair Association Sport, Canoeing Ireland, the GAA, the Irish Sailing Association, the Football Association of Ireland, and the Ladies Gaelic Football Association.

The new equipment will include items as diverse as a mobile Olympic Handball arena, scrum machines, a ‘cricket factory’ where you can try out cricket for fun, and martial arts arenas.

It includes a grant of €160,228 to the Irish Wheelchair Association Sport to provide new equipment for sports like basketball, athletics, hand cycling and rugby, boccia, table tennis, archery, frisbee, tennis, powerlifting and gym equipment.

Minister Ring said: "The real beneficiaries from this funding will be the thousands of sportspeople across Ireland who head out on weeknights and weekends to train with their local club.

"Although some of the equipment will be used at national level by the governing bodies, a significant portion will be utilised at local level. I hope it will encourage more people to get involved in sport."

The equipment aims to help a diverse range of sports to attract more participants, run better competitions, monitor performance and train more effectively, building on the success of the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

Applications were invited through the Irish Sports Council. All 21 organisations which applied are being funded under the scheme.

Funding has been allocated as follows:

Athletics Association Of Ireland: €350,000

Badminton Ireland: €90,000

Canoeing Ireland: €75,000

Community Games: €85,899

Cricket Ireland: €105,921

Football Association of Ireland: €220,000

GAA: €220,000

Institute of Sport: €121,489

Irish Hockey Association: €30,000

Irish Martial Arts Commission: €84,525

Irish Olympic Handball Association: €98,000

Irish Rugby Football Union: €257,517

Irish Sailing Association: €400,000

Irish Table Tennis Association: €7,000

Irish Wheelchair Association Sport: €160,228

Junior Golf Ireland: €17,500

Ladies Gaelic Football Association: €15,000

Motor Cycling Ireland: €16,867

Special Olympics Ireland: €26,153

Swim Ireland: €249,586

Volleyball Association Of Ireland: €11,390

Weightlifting Ireland: €20,430

seamus

Maybe they don't think they need one?

Or perhaps being given a grant confers some obligations on the organisation which CI didn't want to shackle themselves to.

Jawgap

Interesting.....

Nothing in there for boxing and sailing did well!!

Benbecul97

seamus wrote: »

Maybe they don't think they need one?

Or perhaps being given a grant confers some obligations on the organisation which CI didn't want to shackle themselves to.

There isn't a sports organisation in the country that would turn down a grant in this economic climate - oh wait, there is one!

Sure, I don't know the ins and outs of receiving a grant. The biggest organisations - GAA, FAI, IRFU - all availed. Looks like a lost opportunity to me!

morana

Benbecul97 wrote: »

There isn't a sports organisation in the country that would turn down a grant in this economic climate - oh wait, there is one!

Sure, I don't know the ins and outs of receiving a grant. The biggest organisations - GAA, FAI, IRFU - all availed. Looks like a lost opportunity to me!

how do you know we turned down anything? Do you know we didnt apply?

Tell us what do you know?

Beasty

Yeah - Wattbikes all-round!

The grants are for equipment. What equipment (to this sort of value) does CI need (beyond what it already has)?

Clearly any applications must be based on need, not simply creating a list of "nice to haves". I'm sure CI will consider any grants that may be available, and apply for any that are both relevant and will satisfy a genuine need. Equally the Irish Sports Council will only award the grants under whatever qualifying criteria it sets. If CI did not meet the criteria they would have been absolutely right not to apply

morana

More info here
Note the date. This money is part of an overall fund of 30m. We have already monies which havent been drawn down and spent. Money that was earmarked for Tallaght and money for Corkagh which I think we have got last week from a previous round! We have 2 MTB facilities which will be funded from SCG funding. We were looking for funding from this for further facilities which hopefully will get the green light. We dont miss out on grants as Beasty says, we might decide its not worth going for for whatever reason.

What pee's me off and hence the tone of my reply to the OP we get a number of complaints/criticisms on here which everybody seems to know all about but they actually dont in 99% of cases. I can take criticism all day long and I will do everything to try remedy it. I have no problem with that, in fact I enjoy it because it makes us better. Maybe the title would have been better "Did CI miss....."

thebouldwhacker

Sure what does gaa need only sticks and balls?
The fai don't even need sticks!!

What about an indoor track or two around the country.
Education programs for youth.
Advance the cause of cyclists through community programs.
A documentary on the Irish cyclists around the world.
Petition the government to be pro cycling in all aspects of social planning.
Any kind of public campaign which changes the view that cyclists are like vampires, we once we were people with families but now that we are on the saddle deserve to be shunned at every opportunity

I fund raise and do grant applications, you never say ah no point applying for that, sure we'd never get a penny.......... bag pack anyone?

Beasty

thebouldwhacker wrote: »

What about an indoor track or two around the country.
Education programs for youth.
Advance the cause of cyclists through community programs.
A documentary on the Irish cyclists around the world.
Petition the government to be pro cycling in all aspects of social planning.
Any kind of public campaign which changes the view that cyclists are like vampires, we once we were people with families but now that we are on the saddle deserve to be shunned at every opportunity

So where do any of the above fit into qualifying criteria set by the Sports Council?

Leroy42

Morana, maybe I misread your post, but I got the impression that you are saying that CI didn't apply because its already has money which it hasn't spent?

Benbecul97

morana wrote: »

Benbecul97 wrote: »

There isn't a sports organisation in the country that would turn down a grant in this economic climate - oh wait, there is one!

Sure, I don't know the ins and outs of receiving a grant. The biggest organisations - GAA, FAI, IRFU - all availed. Looks like a lost opportunity to me!

how do you know we turned down anything? Do you know we didnt apply?

Tell us what do you know?

What I know is highlighted in my op. Never claimed to know it all!

Change the thread title then.

thebouldwhacker

Beasty wrote: »

So where do any of the above fit into qualifying criteria set by the Sports Council?

No idea.
But it ain't my job to know or to word applications so they do......

morana

Benbecul97 wrote: »

What I know is highlighted in my op. Never claimed to know it all!

yes I know but you get my drift?

Benbecul97

morana wrote: »

Benbecul97 wrote: »

What I know is highlighted in my op. Never claimed to know it all!

yes I know but you get my drift?

Fair enough if CI still has unspent monies, but thebouldwhacker mentions loads of areas for cycling investment, would hate to see CI lose out, that's all

Beasty

Leroy42 wrote: »

Morana, maybe I misread your post, but I got the impression that you are saying that CI didn't apply because its already has money which it hasn't spent?

I read it as they had already applied (under the wider scheme) and had allocated funding for a project that has not, at this stage, gone ahead, and that they have no other qualifying projects in the immediate pipeline.

I don't get this view that Government grants are somehow "free money". The Government will only make these funds available on the basis they are spent in accordance with the criteria agreed with the Sports Council. As I am partly funding this through my tax payments, I would not want any organsation applying without a genuine requirement within the criteria laid down supported by a fully costed business case

morana

Leroy42 wrote: »

Morana, maybe I misread your post, but I got the impression that you are saying that CI didn't apply because its already has money which it hasn't spent?

A few applications were put in under different headings and we have money, a decent amount which is to be spent.

Benbecul97 wrote: »

Fair enough if CI still has unspent monies, but thebouldwhacker mentions loads of areas for cycling investment, would hate to see CI lose out, that's all

So would I. We have been working on a velodrome which some of the monies was earmarked for and a number of downhill facilities.

Beasty

Benbecul97 wrote: »

Change the thread title then.

Done

Leroy42

Thanks for the reply Morana. I would question why CI have unspent monies, it's not like we have an abundance of cycling infrastructure (tracks etc) but since I don't know the details it isn't for me to judge. I am aware that in many cases the grants are for something specific so if you can't go ahead with that particular thing the money can't be used for something else.

These grants seem to be for equipment. Would there not be a place for a training centre fitted with training aids such as VO2 max machines etc? What about timing control systems for sportives, finish line technology for races, starter bikes for kids to get more children involved in the sport (sort of like a Dublin bike scheme for children races) so we can get the sport out beyond the normal way of kinds only getting involved because daddy races.

Beasty

As I understand it the money has to be spent in accordance with the original application. It should not be diverted elsewhere. It cannot be spent on a velodrome if there is currently no building available to accomodate such a velodrome. It must remain unspent until an appropriate facility can be secured (which unfortunately is a bit of a problem at present)

If it gets released back to the Sports Council, I am sure there are other projects that could be considered, but it should be borne in mind that these grants only provide partial funding. The Sports body also has to partly fund it and secure resource to maintain it

morana

Leroy42 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply Morana. I would question why CI have unspent monies, it's not like we have an abundance of cycling infrastructure (tracks etc) but since I don't know the details it isn't for me to judge. I am aware that in many cases the grants are for something specific so if you can't go ahead with that particular thing the money can't be used for something else.

These grants seem to be for equipment. Would there not be a place for a training centre fitted with training aids such as VO2 max machines etc? What about timing control systems for sportives, finish line technology for races, starter bikes for kids to get more children involved in the sport (sort of like a Dublin bike scheme for children races) so we can get the sport out beyond the normal way of kinds only getting involved because daddy races.

money was for tallaght velodrome which hasnt gone ahead yet and the rest is for facilities being finished. Those are good suggestions. We have made an alliance with some universities for testing of athletes and the ISC have there own facility. We got money for bikes for youngsters albeit on the track.

thebouldwhacker

I would like to clarify that I posted a general statement about a specific issue.
What I was trying to get at was that many other bodies will have various projects on the go. In my background if funding comes up to allow the opportunity for a new direction or focus then it is looked at and grabbed. This allows diversification and growth. I did not mean apply for funding for one project and funnel it into another.
My post was also in response to an earlier post.which I (mis)read as 'sure we're grand with what we have we don't need the bother of it all' rather than any specific dig aimed at ci and their fund raising which I know nothing about.


Perhaps the money could have been applied for and given to county council's for the potholes......