Rover 75 ecu problems. Recommendations on mechanic

Cienciano

I've a rover 75 with ecu problems. I know this can be a common problem because the drain holes can get blocked.
Anyone got any recommendations on somewhere to bring it in the Leinster area? A guy who has experience with them (and not Ryans in Blanch).
Cheers.

mickdw

Can't recommend anyone but what issues are you having?

Is your ECU after getting a soaking due to blocked drains? Is it petrol or diesel? What are the issues?

Disconnecting the battery for half an hour can do wonders (ECU reset)

dieselbug

Dont know about Leinster but if you want to send it to the Uk these are supposed to be good on this particular ecu

ecutechnologies.co.uk

Cienciano

Left it in to get an injector fixed, it wasn't starting right and cruise control wasn't resetting and get anything done that needed to be done. Got it back and the air con wasn't working!
Was told cruise control and air con wasn't working because of a faulty ecu. Not actually faulty, it just needed to be programmed. I was told I'd have to send the ecu unit away to be done.
I'm wondering if a competent rover mechanic in the dublin area can do it?
In the meantime, I'll try your idea roverjames, cheers!

pontia

had a rover,dont spend a penny more on it, a blackhole of wasted money,park it in a kip and get bus home,say it was robbed,pure junk

mickdw

pontia wrote: »

had a rover,dont spend a penny more on it, a blackhole of wasted money,park it in a kip and get bus home,say it was robbed,pure junk

So you bought a bad one or didn't bother maintaining it and you brand them all as rubbish.
IMO, the 75 is a very good and underrated car.

gctest50

mickdw wrote: »

So you bought a bad one....

Do you get the choice when you order a new one ?:)

What colour would you like sir ?
Diesel / petrol engine ?
Would you like one of the good ones ?

pontia

severe head gasket problems with rovers,poor make,very few good reports,best avoided

Spook_ie

mg-rover.org

better off searching on here or asking them TBH

Cienciano

Cienciano wrote: »

Left it in to get an injector fixed, it wasn't starting right and cruise control wasn't resetting and get anything done that needed to be done. Got it back and the air con wasn't working!
Was told cruise control and air con wasn't working because of a faulty ecu. Not actually faulty, it just needed to be programmed. I was told I'd have to send the ecu unit away to be done.
I'm wondering if a competent rover mechanic in the dublin area can do it?
In the meantime, I'll try your idea roverjames, cheers!

Any ABS issue ?, if the ABS light is on the CruiseC won't turn on.
About the air con, is it climate control equipped (digi display) or just air con?

I'd defo try the ECU reset by disconnecting the battery.

mickdw

pontia wrote: »

severe head gasket problems with rovers,poor make,very few good reports,best avoided

Well documented head gasket problems no doubt on some models only. The 75 has other common issues too but overall a good car and comfortable too.

pontia

pontia wrote: »

severe head gasket problems with rovers,poor make,very few good reports,best avoided

It seems the one in this thread is diesel, does the HG issue apply to them?

Syllabus

K&C Garages in Churchtown in the big smoke still do rovers.

good to stick it on a rover computer if james suggestion doesnt work

Spook_ie

RoverJames wrote: »

It seems the one in this thread is diesel, does the HG issue apply to them?

Done a 185K in mine no problem so far, does have a liking for crankshaft pulleys though

dieselbug

No gasket trouble on the diesels, engines are generally regarded as bulletproof.
Had two of them 01 75 cdt and 04 MGZT cdti smashing car.
Sold the 75 local about 4 years ago and still flying.
Usual issues are wishbones, dmf, and maf. Lp fuel pump can give a bit of trouble and the swimmimg ecu. Traded the mgzt in NI and she sold the day after.
Id run a mile from a petrol one though.

My hg query was a tad tongue in cheek

delthedriver

Was sitting alongside a Rover 75 connoisseur in traffic yesterday. What a fine looking car. They don't make them like they used to. Also spotted a couple of new Mg 6 cars over weekend , appear to be fine looking cars also. Are they available in Ireland yet?

the culture of deference

pontia wrote: »

severe head gasket problems with rovers,poor make,very few good reports,best avoided

Petrols have this issue. Diesels tend to be fantastic.

delthedriver wrote: »

Was sitting alongside a Rover 75 connoisseur in traffic yesterday. What a fine looking car.

The diesel auto Conn SE cdti is the best buy

the culture of deference

the culture of deference wrote: »

Petrols have this issue. Diesels tend to be fantastic.



.....

Which petrols? All of them is it?

the culture of deference

RoverJames wrote: »

Which petrols? All of them is it?

Why you being like that, the 1.8 HG failure rate is well documented.

the culture of deference

the culture of deference wrote: »

Why you being like that, the 1.8 HG failure rate is well documented.

.... there are other petrol engines other than the 4 cylinder Ks in 75s

aujopimur

Check out the Rover 75 page on facebook, you might get a few tips.

ba_barabus

Ignore the haters, the Rover 75 CDTI is an excellent car.

I'd avoid Churchtown as they will charge you a fortune and then try and sell you a Kia.

PM me and I'll add you on facebook and put you in contact with the Irish section of the 75 and ZT owners club.

They have fantastic mechanics in NI if you can travel

ba_barabus

delthedriver wrote: »

Are they available in Ireland yet?

No chance until a diesel is available unless you are a die hard and import it yourself.

The diesel is going to be a Chinese unit and as such parts supply into the future could be an issue unless it sells in decent numbers.

It's been delayed a number of times too so I'm unsure as to when it will make it onto the market.

The MG3 will determine a lot but it's a petrol only model with engine sizes which aren't suited to the Irish market. I've been informed the MG5 isn't very well screwed together in China so I don't know how it will fare in western markets

the culture of deference

RoverJames wrote: »

.... there are other petrol engines other than the 4 cylinder Ks in 75s

Yea I have owned a 2.5 75, an 98 620i, and I had a fantastic 01 conn se cdt auto 75 for 6 years, and an 820i petrol for 4 years and 3 head gaskets. I had a Montego and a maestro 20 years ago.

ba_barabus

the culture of deference wrote: »

Yea I have owned a 2.5 75, an 98 620i, and I had a fantastic 01 conn se cdt auto 75 for 6 years, and an 820i petrol for 4 years and 3 head gaskets. I had a Montego and a maestro 20 years ago.

I passed a nice green 800 fastback and an 09 MGTF in traffic this morning in Ballsbridge

the culture of deference

ba_barabus wrote: »

I passed a nice green 800 fastback and an 09 MGTF in traffic this morning in Ballsbridge

Not many 800's left anymore.

Mar4ix

pontia wrote: »

severe head gasket problems with rovers,poor make,very few good reports,best avoided

there is main issue - owner. ...... these days everyone blame bad quality of any k series petrol engines ... ok .. there is some design issue , thin coolant lines in engine head .....to get that engine go long time require right coolant and right oil ... and be inspected on regular basis for any coolant leaks .... and if owner not care about car .... engine getting overheated, which leads to headgasket failure. it doesn't go itself, a specially lately designed (last 10 years) steel layered headgaskets are very good.
What kills those engines, is owner attitude.
I was driving rover 414 '97, very comfy car, soft , changed headgasket twice, first time it went 2 days after when i bought it, second time - overheated on motorway, after that i was checking car very often, kept cooling system in top condition, and that car served me another 2 years without any problems.
Eventually it failed nct on rusty sils, cost too much to get repaired and i bought new car for my wife using scrappage scheme.

ba_barabus

the culture of deference wrote: »

Not many 800's left anymore.

It was Thaiti blue as well which was a rare enough colour

Nissan doctor

@OP, The A/C not working is very unlikely to be related to a faulty ECM as the A/C would be controlled by the body control module(BCM). They are two different systems.

Pottler

the culture of deference wrote: »

Why you being like that, the 1.8 HG failure rate is well documented.

KV6 head gasket failure is almost guaranteed, but it is also very repairable with the new MLMG and an awful lot of people make a fine living buying rovers with gaskets gone and fixing and reselling them. The Freelander petrol uses a KV6 - gasket always goes, easily enough fixed and away it goes again. Same with MGF, 75, 400s, 800s etc. Diesel Rovers are very very good(have the knockers ever driven one? The diesels are bombproof and hugely comfortable). Regarding the ECU, post to the UK if it's in need of repair, cost you €150, or try the reset/reprogramme.

Pottler

Pottler wrote: »

KV6 head gasket failure is almost guaranteed, but it is also very repairable with the new MLMG and an awful lot of people make a fine living buying rovers with gaskets gone and fixing and reselling them. The Freelander petrol uses a KV6 - gasket always goes, easily enough fixed and away it goes again. Same with MGF, 75, 400s, 800s etc................

The KV6 (6 cylinder) was never fitted to the MGF. Also no 1.8 KV6 was ever made.
The KV6 fitted to the 75, 45, ZT, ZS and Freelander is hugely unlikely to suffer HG failure.

I reckon you're thinking of the K4s (4 cylinder), introduced in late 80s in the R8 200s/400s K4s were not fitted to 800s though, that was the T series, HG failure in them was generally a oil weap which most owners lived with.

The multi layer gasket you are referring to is for the K4s.

I ran 3 k4s, two of them were on the factory gaskets and perfect to 92k miles and 130k miles so saying it's almost guaranteed is a stretch of the truth, I'm not alone in having ran a K4 without experiencing HG failure either

Pottler

RoverJames wrote: »

The KV6 (6 cylinder) was never fitted to the MGF. Also no 1.8 KV6 was ever made.
The KV6 fitted to the 75, 45, ZT, ZS and Freelander is hugely unlikely to suffer HG failure.

I reckon you're thinking of the K4s (4 cylinder), introduced in late 80s in the R8 200s/400s K4s were not fitted to 800s though, that was the T series, HG failure in them was generally a oil weap which most owners lived with.

The multi layer gasket you are referring to is for the K4s.

I ran 3 k4s, two of them were on the factory gaskets and perfect to 92k miles and 130k miles so saying it's almost guaranteed is a stretch of the truth, I'm not alone in having ran a K4 without experiencing HG failure either

6, 4, it's friday, be nice! I like rovers, not as much as you James, but I like them! What's 2 cylinders in the difference anyway!

...... just to add the 3rd K4 I ran was after two HG failures and when I bought it was losing coolant from the inlet manifold, would have been a 3rd if it wasn't for €0.50 investment in a new little bolt to replace the one that had stripped the threads and was loose

Pottler

Pottler wrote: »

6, 4, it's friday, be nice!......

Sure I had loads of these dudes there for you :pac:

Syllabus

the culture of deference wrote: »

Not many 800's left anymore.

wonder does the russian embassy still have their one

Syllabus

Pottler wrote: »

KV6 head gasket failure is almost guaranteed, but it is also very repairable with the new MLMG and an awful lot of people make a fine living buying rovers with gaskets gone and fixing and reselling them. The Freelander petrol uses a KV6 - gasket always goes, easily enough fixed and away it goes again. Same with MGF, 75, 400s, 800s etc. Diesel Rovers are very very good(have the knockers ever driven one? The diesels are bombproof and hugely comfortable). Regarding the ECU, post to the UK if it's in need of repair, cost you €150, or try the reset/reprogramme.

couldnt begin to count the amount of fuel pumps and lift pumps i replaced in my time. and at +500 a go, not a cheap common fault to have

ba_barabus

Syllabus wrote: »

couldnt begin to count the amount of fuel pumps and lift pumps i replaced in my time. and at +500 a go, not a cheap common fault to have

In fairness if you run your tank down to the red in most cars this will eventually become an issue