RTE1 Nationwide to cover Saorview & ASO Wed Oct 3rd

coylemj

Nationwide, this Wednesday Oct 3rd at 19:00 on RTE1 TV

As this is going to cover the cross-border (spectrum) issues, if you have country cousins who think ASO will get delayed because people aren't ready for it, you should tell them to watch this program.

Saorview Switchover

Saorview/ Reporter Helen McInerney

On the 24th of October the old transmitters for Television transmission will be switched off. We go behind the scenes to take a look at how the system has worked up to this and to try to understand why this change has had to come about. Helen McInerney has been looking back at the 50 years of TV transmission in this country.

Border Switchover/ Reporter Brian McVeigh

The switch over to digital transmission is happening simultaneously in the UK. Viewers in Northern Ireland will switch to what's called Freeview. So what will this mean for viewers in border areas where television signals from Ireland and the UK criss-cross? Indeed many families in the Republic grew up watching BBC programmes years before RTE came on air. Mary Harte has been meeting people in Donegal and Derry who are hoping that their viewing will not be affected by the changeover.


http://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/nationwide.html

Sam Russell

coylemj wrote: »

Saorview Switchover

Saorview/ Reporter Helen McInerney

On the 24th of October the old transmitters for Television transmission will be switched off. We go behind the scenes to take a look at how the system has worked up to this and to try to understand why this change has had to come about. Helen McInerney has been looking back at the 50 years of TV transmission in this country.

It is not Saorview Switchover, it is Analogue SWITCH OFF. Saorview was launched in May 2011, eighteen months ago and has been receivable by over 90% of the population ever since.

The reason many people are not ready is because RTE are, and have been treating Oct 24th 2012 as the launch of Saorview. No wonder people are not ready. They could have been watching Saorview for 18 months already and enjoyed perfect pictures and the occasional programme in HD. I have been watching it for four years.

St Senan

I hope they do a better job of explaining it on nationwide. Unlike what was on the ear to ground show a while back.

coylemj

At least that twat Derek Mooney won't be there to butt in with his ill-informed tuppence worth. On his radio program about a year ago he had Gay Byrne and a technical guy from RTE doing a Saorview Q&A phone-in. A punter rings in and asks about the aerial requirements whereupon Mooney dives straight in and tells the caller and the nation: 'you don't need an aerial for Saorview!'

The Cush

Navarre wrote: »

I hope they do a better job of explaining it on nationwide. Unlike what was on the ear to ground show a while back.

I remember watching that and posted that it was a good presentation at the time, compared to what had been done previously - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=77338625
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=77349908

muincav

coylemj wrote: »

Nationwide, this Wednesday Oct 3rd at 19:00 on RTE1 TV

As this is going to cover the cross-border (spectrum) issues, if you have country cousins who think ASO will get delayed because people aren't ready for it, you should tell them to watch this program.

Saorview Switchover

Saorview/ Reporter Helen McInerney

On the 24th of October the old transmitters for Television transmission will be switched off. We go behind the scenes to take a look at how the system has worked up to this and to try to understand why this change has had to come about. Helen McInerney has been looking back at the 50 years of TV transmission in this country.

Border Switchover/ Reporter Brian McVeigh

The switch over to digital transmission is happening simultaneously in the UK. Viewers in Northern Ireland will switch to what's called Freeview. So what will this mean for viewers in border areas where television signals from Ireland and the UK criss-cross? Indeed many families in the Republic grew up watching BBC programmes years before RTE came on air. Mary Harte has been meeting people in Donegal and Derry who are hoping that their viewing will not be affected by the changeover.


http://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/nationwide.html

"Country cousins"??? WTF? You think people who live in the "Country" dont know about Saorview? or do you just think they are stupid? I know most Dublin people think Dublin is Ireland (and so do the Government, thats why YOU have all the services) but this post although being informative is very very insulting....:mad:

The Cush

muincav wrote: »

"Country cousins"??? WTF? You think people who live in the "Country" dont know about Saorview? or do you just think they are stupid?

Good point, I wonder how may of the urban population will have forgotten or failed to realise that their non-UPC/Sky connected second or third TVs may require a Saorview STB from Oct 24th.

coylemj

muincav wrote: »

"Country cousins"??? WTF? You think people who live in the "Country" dont know about Saorview? or do you just think they are stupid? I know most Dublin people think Dublin is Ireland (and so do the Government, thats why YOU have all the services) but this post although being informative is very very insulting....:mad:

The vast majority of people who rely solely on an aerial are rural dwellers and if you read my post, I never said they were stupid, I said that a lot of them think ASO will be delayed.

The Cush wrote: »

In a recent IPSOS MRBI poll almost 26% of respondents do not believe the switchover will happen on 24th October.

I rest my case. The above post by the way is from Sept 10th 2012.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80692336&postcount=2

Mr. Rabbit

I wonder if they'll mention Saorsat ??????????

muincav

coylemj wrote: »

The vast majority of people who rely solely on an aerial are rural dwellers and if you read my post, I never said they were stupid, I said that a lot of them think ASO will be delayed.



I rest my case. The above post by the way is from Sept 10th 2012.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80692336&postcount=2

Maybe you should read your own post, as its the way you phrased it- as in
"country cousins".....sounds like something out of the Dukes of Hazzard..I have had Saorview since its launch and have satellite for 20 years,,,yes the digital kind since it came out too....lol

sesswhat

coylemj wrote: »

In a recent IPSOS MRBI poll almost 26% of respondents do not believe the switchover will happen on 24th October.

I rest my case. The above post by the way is from Sept 10th 2012.

You don't think the lack of a breakdown of respondents by urban/rural would be a slight hole in your case?

The Cush

sesswhat wrote: »

You don't think the lack of a breakdown of respondents by urban/rural would be a slight hole in your case?

According to the latest DSO awareness survey the areas with the least awareness of Saorview and ASO are Dublin and Urban areas with one-third of existing analogue users in urban areas.

coylemj

I never mentioned ignorance about Saorview, I mentioned the fact that a lot of people think it will be delayed and as far as I'm concerned most of those people are rural dwellers.

But if you want to talk about lack of awareness and the urban/rural divide......

The Cush wrote: »

According to the latest DSO awareness survey the areas with the least awareness of Saorview and ASO are Dublin and Urban areas with one-third of existing analogue users in urban areas.

So two-thirds of analogue users are rural. That means that unless the rate of ignorance concerning ASO is double in urban areas what it is in rural areas, most people who are less aware or ignorant about ASO are rural.

Ronnie Raygun

coylemj wrote: »

The Cush wrote: »

According to the latest DSO awareness survey the areas with the least awareness of Saorview and ASO are Dublin and Urban areas with one-third of existing analogue users in urban areas.

So two-thirds of analogue users are rural. That means that unless the rate of ignorance concerning ASO is double in urban areas what it is in rural areas, most people who are less aware or ignorant about ASO are rural.

No, it simply means that more people in urban areas are ignorant of ASO. They don't have to be viewers of analogue terrestrial to qualify as such. Your reasoning is flawed.

The Cush

coylemj wrote: »

So two-thirds of analogue users are rural. That means that unless the rate of ignorance concerning ASO is double in urban areas what it is in rural areas, most people who are less aware or ignorant about ASO are rural.

Analogue users Sept2012 - Urban 33%, Rural 67%

Not aware of DSO/Saorview - Urban 7%, Rural 4%
Not aware of ASO date - Urban 8%, Rural 3%

Hotblack Desiato

coylemj wrote: »

The vast majority of people who rely solely on an aerial are rural dwellers

I live in Dublin and we rely entirely on an aerial for Irish channels.
I've noticed a LOT of aerials going up in my area over the last 12-18 months. People are cancelling UPC/Sky and going FTA sat & Saorview. The idea that dependence on an aerial is a rural phenomenon is way overdone.

In the old days

ninja900 wrote: »

I've noticed a LOT of aerials going up in my area over the last 12-18 months. People are cancelling UPC/Sky and going FTA sat & Saorview. The idea that dependence on an aerial is a rural phenomenon is way overdone.

With you on that observation. Lots more sky style mini-dish and small contract aerial combos around, particularly southside with line-of-sight of three rock.

St Senan

Well that's that then. That woman saying please don't adjust your aerial.

murpho999

During it they were interviewiing News & Weather presenters about HD.

When are they planning to have RTE 1 or at least the news in HD?

I got the impression that they were trying to make out that the improvement in digital signal over analogue is like HD?

Antenna

Nationwide is repeated tomorrow (Thursday) morning on RTE1 at 8:35 AM if anyone wants another chance to see it/record it.

BTW
tvtrade.ie representative appeared on 'The Last Word' on Today FM today about Saorview suggesting there could be box shortages:
http://www.todayfm.com/shows/weekdays/matt-cooper/matt-cooper-blog/12-10-03/Saorview_box_shortages.aspx

formerly scottish paddy

Thought it was reasonably well done gave a fair explanation without being too techy which would have put people off and didn’t seem to have any glaring mistakes. I liked the simple bit were she pointed at the monitor and said if you have this on your screen ( X 24 October) then you need to do something……says it all.

Sam Russell

I think they should now shrink the TV picture on analogue so that it is 75% of normal, and fill the border with a very grave warning.

I think those affected might notice, and perhaps do something.

By the way, a neighbour of mine got a Saorview box for his TV and I helped tune it in. I noticed that his TV was in fact Saorview Approved and so he did not need his STB after all. It was moved to another TV that needed it.

I wonder how many cases of that are out there?

SalteeDog

Nationwide was a bit of a mixed bad. As previous poster said there were no glaring errors, but the bit on spillover/freeview in Donegal & Derry is probably going to confuse folks - especially the part about not adjusting your aerial.

Also - the piece about news and weather presenters requirements for new makeup in the 'digital' age was daft and pointless imho. (As well as being inaccurate - digital not being synonymous with HD).

Also I couldn't help but notice Mary Curtis got her hair done for the show.:)

I suppose it's a 'human interest' magazine show so they were always going to emphasise the human interest angle to the expense of technical clarity.

Sam Russell

SalteeDog wrote: »

Also - the piece about news and weather presenters requirements for new makeup in the 'digital' age was daft and pointless imho. (As well as being inaccurate - digital not being synonymous with HD).

We have had the 'Digital Aerial' and now we have the 'Digital Make-up'.:mad:

formerly scottish paddy

Sam Russell wrote: »

We have had the 'Digital Aerial' and now we have the 'Digital Make-up'.:mad:

I think to be fair they were referring to HD which they did mention in that regard, the makeup artist saying a different finer makeup is needed for HD.

Hotblack Desiato

It's a major problem in the 'adult entertainment' industry, I hear *cough*

Capt'n Midnight

ninja900 wrote: »

It's a major problem in the 'adult entertainment' industry, I hear *cough*

TBH adult movies are early adopters of a lot of technology and have been the deciding factor for stuff like VHS/Betamax and HD