Which Laptop is better ?

Jumboman

Which of these is a better laptop ?

Also does anyone know who makes better screens Sony or Samsung ?

The main difference between the 2 laptops from what I can see is size of the harddrives and the fact that the samsung laptop doesnt come with a full HD screen.

Can anyone really tell the difference between HD 1600x900 vs 1920x1080 Full HD screen on a laptop ?






http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-17-3-inch-Blu-ray-Windows-Premium/dp/tech-data/B00863RI8A/ref=de_a_smtd

Price £729.94

Samsung RF711 17.3-inch Laptop (Black) (Intel Core i7 2670QM 2.2GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, Blu-ray, LAN, WLAN, BT, Webcam, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit)


Technical Details


Model Name: RF711
Part Number: NP-RF711-S08UK
Operating System: Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)
Processor: Intel Core i7-2670QM (6M Cache, 2.20 GHz)
Main Chipset: Intel HM65
System Memory: 8 Gb
Memory Slot: 2 x SODIMM
Display: LCD 17.3 inch LED HD+
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M
Graphics Memory: 1 Gb DDR3
HDD: 1 Tb
ODD: Blu-Ray
Modem: No
Wired Ethernet LAN: 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Wireless LAN: 802.11bgn
Bluetooth: Bluetooth v3.0 High Speed
Sound: HD (High Definition) Audio
Sound Effect: SRS Premium Sound Effect, Mic Noise Suppression
Speaker: 3 W Stereo Speaker (1.5 W x 2)
Integrated Camera: 1.3 MP HD Camera
I/O Ports: VGA, HDMI, Headphone-out, Mic-in, Internal Mic, 2 x USB 2.0, 2 x USB 3.0 (chargeable USB included), 4-in-1 Card Reader (SD, SDHC, SDXC, MMC), RJ45, DC-in
Security: Norton Internet Security (60 day free), BIOS Boot Up Password, Kensington Lock Port, Samsung Recovery Solution
AC Adapter: 90 Watt
Battery: Li-Ion, 6 cell, 5200 mAh
Dimensions (WxDxH): 415.8 x 276.1 x 32.3 - 37.9 mm
Weight: 2.9 Kg
Warranty: International Warranty
Software-Safety: Samsung Recovery Solution, Samsung Support Center, Norton Internet Security (free 60-day trial), HDD Password
Software-Utility: Samsung Fast Start, Easy Speedup Manager, Easy Network Manager, Battery Life Extender, Easy Display Manager, Samsung Update Plus, Sleep-and-Charge USB, Easy File Share, Easy Content Share, Microsoft Office 2010 Starter
Software-Multimedia: CyberLink YouCam, Game Console

http://www.sony.ie/product/vaio-e-series/sve1711x1e

Price €1,149.00 Incl Vat

Sony Vaio SVE1711X1E

Operating System

Operating System
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit with Service Pack 1


Architecture

Platform
3rd generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor
Chipset
Intel® HM76 Express Chipset


CPU

Processor Name
Intel® Core™ i7-3612QM Processor
Power and Performance
with Intel® Turbo Boost Technology
Processor Speed (GHz)
2.10 with Turbo Boost up to 3.10
L3 Cache (MB)
6
Number of Cores
4


Memory

Memory Size (GB)
8
Memory Type
PC3-12800
Memory Specification
DDR3 SDRAM
Memory Speed (MHz)
1600
Memory Composition
4 GB (SO-DIMM) x 2
Max. Supported Memory (GB)
8


Colour

Cover Colour
Black


Drives

Hard Drive Type
Serial ATA
Hard Drive Capacity (GB)
750
Optical Drive Type
Blu-ray Disc™ ROM Drive with DVD SuperMulti
Read
CD 24x, CD-R 24x, CD-RW 24x, DVD 8x, DVD-R DL 6x, DVD-R 8x, DVD-RW 8x, DVD+R DL 6x, DVD+R 8x, DVD+RW 8x, DVD-RAM 5x, BD-ROM 6x, BD-R 6x, BD-R DL 4x, BD-RE 4x, BD-RE DL 4x
Write
CD-R 24x, CD-RW 10x, DVD-R DL 6x, DVD-R 8x, DVD-RW 6x, DVD+R DL 6x, DVD+R 8x, DVD+RW 8x, DVD-RAM 5x
Hard Drive Speed (rpm)
5400


Screen

Screen Type
VAIO Display Plus
Diagonal Size (cm)
43.8
Diagonal Size (in)
17.3
Resolution Name
Full HD
Resolution
1920 x 1080
Aspect Ratio
Wide (16:9)
Max Resolution External Display
1920 x 1200


Graphics

Graphic Card Name
AMD Radeon™ HD 7650M
Video RAM memory size
2 GB
Total Graphics Memory
-
Comments
-


Interfaces

USB Port(s)
USB 2.0 (Type A Connector) x 3, USB 3.0 with USB charging (Type A Connector) x 1
i.Link 4-pin (IEEE1394)
No
Memory Stick™ Slot(s)
Memory Stick Duo slot x 1, SD memory card slot x 1
Memory Stick™ Function(s)
Memory Stick PRO compatible, Not support for copyright protection
Microphone Jack
Stereo, Mini Jack x1
Headphone Jack
Stereo, Mini Jack x1
Optical Audio Out (SPDIF)
No
SD Card Slot
SDHC, SDXC compatible, Not support for copyright protection
HDMI Output
Yes
VGA Output
Mini D-Sub 15 pin x1


Network Connectivity

Ethernet (RJ-45 Direct Port)
Yes
Ethernet Type
1000BASE-T/100BASE-TX/10BASE-T x1
Wireless LAN
Yes
Wireless LAN Type
IEEE 802.11b/g/n
Wireless LAN Max. Date Rate (Mbps)
150 (RX) / 150 (TX)
Bluetooth
Yes
Bluetooth Version
Bluetooth® standard Ver. 4.0 + HS
Bluetooth Range (m)
max. 10
Bluetooth Max. Data Rate (Mbps)
24


Security

HDD Shock Protection
Yes


Audio

Built-in Speakers
Internal, Stereo speakers
Built-in Microphone
Internal, Monaural microphone
Dolby Codec
-
xLOUD™
Yes
S-Force™ Front Surround 3D
No


Built-in Camera

Specification
HD Web Camera powered by "Exmor for PC"
Effective Pixels
1280 x 1024
Image Sensor (Mega Pixels)
1.31


Keyboard

Stroke (mm)
1.7
Key Pitch (mm)
19.05
Numeric Keypad
Yes
Touch Pad
Yes (Gesture supported)
Pointing Stick
No
BackLit
Yes


Other Features

Instant On
-
Special Buttons
Assist Button, WEB Button, VAIO Button, Wireless switch
Auto Luminance Control
-
Kensigton Lock
Yes


Software

Solution Portal
VAIO Gate
Photo/Video
PlayMemories Home
Multimedia
Media Gallery
Support
VAIO Care
Utilities
VAIO Transfer Support, VAIO Update, VAIO Smart network
Office Application
Office 2010 preloaded – buy Office 2010 product key for full activation, Windows Live Essentials 2011, Adobe® Reader® 10
Security & Backup
McAfee Internet Security 30 day subscription, McAfee Online Backup 30 day subscription
SONY Tools
Imagination™ Studio VAIO Edition, Remote Keyboard, Remote Play with PlayStation® 3
Internet
Internet Explorer® 9


Supplied Accesories

AC Adapter
VGP-AC19V31
Power Cord
Yes
Documentation Pack
Yes
Mouse
-
Keyboard Skin
-
VAIO International Repair Service Guide
Yes
3D Active Shutter Glasses
No


Dimensions

Depth Main Unit (mm)
278.0
Height Main Unit (mm)
27.1 - 37.8
Width Main Unit (mm)
408.7
Weight with Supplied Battery (kg)
3,2


Primary Battery

Model Name
VGP-BPS26A
Weight (g)
330
Battery Type
Lithium ion battery
Battery Life time (hours)
-
Battery Charging time (hours)
-
Battery Life Disclaimer
Actual battery life will vary depending on your specific hardware and software configurations. Benchmark: MobileMark 2007

Torqay

Jumboman wrote: »

Can anyone really tell the difference between HD 1600x900 vs 1920 x 1080 Full HD screen on a laptop ?

Absolutely.

Jumboman wrote: »

Which of these is a better laptop ?

The Sony of course, 3rd generation Core i7, slightly faster GPU (though neither is really suitable for gaming if that's what you have in mind) and indeed the better display. Is it worth 420 yoyos more? Absolutely not.

Edit, just spotted the price for the Samsung is in Sterling, so the difference is only ~ €240, still quite substantial. You might get a better machine cheaper elsewhere.

Jumboman

Torqay wrote: »

Edit, just spotted the price for the Samsung is in Sterling, so the difference is only ~ €240, still quite substantial. You might get a better machine cheaper elsewhere.

Just checked amazon the price is EUR 977,25 when you add in the Irish tax rate.

The Sony of course, 3rd generation Core i7, slightly faster GPU (though neither is really suitable for gaming if that's what you have in mind) and indeed the better display

What puts me off the Sony is that it doesnt have a terabyte harddrive.

Torqay

Jumboman wrote: »

What puts me off the Sony is that it doesnt have a terabyte harddrive.

Easily upgraded with an aftermarket replacement. Or fit a solid state disk (seen a Kingston 128 GB for 65 quid on Amazon) and use the old HDD in an enclosure as external storage.

Or have a look at the Voyager II:

Full HD display
Core i7 3610QM (even faster than the 3612QM)
GT 630M (better than the HD 7650M)
8GB RAM
1 TB HDD

Win7 HP 64-bit (incl. OS installation disk)
3 yrs warranty

£666 or €833 (delivery not included)

Also has a 2nd HDD bay if you want to add a SSD (they currently have a 128 GB SSD on special offer) or another 1 TB HDD.

P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.

Torqay

Or the Optimus IV, with the same configuration as above plus a Bluray combo drive it will cost £872 or €1.091. Still cheaper than the SONY and it comes with a GTX 660M.

Jumboman

Torqay wrote: »

Easily upgraded with an aftermarket replacement. Or fit a solid state disk (seen a Kingston 128 GB for 65 quid on Amazon) and use the old HDD in an enclosure as external storage.

Or have a look at the Voyager II:

Full HD display
Core i7 3610QM (even faster than the 3612QM)
GT 630M (better than the HD 7650M)
8GB RAM
1 TB HDD

Win7 HP 64-bit (incl. OS installtion disk)
3 yrs warranty

£666 or €833 (delivery not included)

Also has a 2nd HDD bay if you want to add a SSD (they currently have a 128 GB SSD on special offer) or another 1 TB HDD.

P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.

Thanks for the link.

Is a voyager a good brand ?

P.S. I don't think VAT will be applied on sales within the EU.

I bought stuff from amazon UK before and they added in the Irish vat rate.

Torqay

PC Specialist is reseller for Clevo laptops in the UK. No-frills laptops with excellent performance, you'll get exactly what you pay for and a decent warranty.

Here is a review for the W150ER, which is the 15" version of the Optimus IV.

Jumboman

Torqay wrote: »

PC Specialist is reseller for Clevo laptops in the UK. No-frills laptops with excellent performance, you'll get exactly what you pay for and a decent warranty.

Here is a review for the W150ER, which is the 15" version of the Optimus IV.

What is the quality of there screens like ? to me not having a high quality screen is a deal breaker.

Torqay

Haven't heard anything negative but you can choose a full HD display from AU Optronics with both models, which is even better.

Look up reviews for Sager or Schenker laptops, their systems are based on the same barebones provided by Clevo.

Media999

Go for a Custom laptop from PCspecialist.co.uk Their screens are made by LG. 1080p on a 15" superb quality. Also far better spec and easy to upgrade.

Current screen is LG. They change and improve them often so old reviews might not tell the full story. Go to their forums and look for recent reviews.