Springer chased Sheep

Tawny Owl

Just back from having my Dog a Springer bitch of 15 Months out with a Club Member he had his 2 year old Male Springer for a walk anyway we were walking along a field near a bog and some Pheasants got up Mine decided to run after the sheep I am total annoyed at what happened to say the least I have a sore throat from calling and blowing the whistle a hole year and a few Months gone up the swanny my Heart was in my mouth if the Famer had been around he was well in his rights to shoot her needless to say" she is going " so near the start of the season I thought I would have a shooting dog to go with rather than on my own this dog was retriving a dummie stopping on the whistle staying when you said so but for the life of me she did her own thing this Morning and thats not going to happen again.:mad::mad::mad::mad: I am so S####d off.

daithi55

anytime we had a young dog over the years we would always introduce her to sheep while on a lead with a choke chain
if she showed any interest in them at all ya just gave her a handy pull with the lead and a swift warning with a command and she would stop after a few goes of this

i wouldnt get rid of the dog just yet give this a go and see how ya get on
the dog ment no harm just wanted to play with them as she wouldnt no what they were

Tawny Owl

daithi55 wrote: »

anytime we had a young dog over the years we would always introduce her to sheep while on a lead with a choke chain
if she showed any interest in them at all ya just gave her a handy pull with the lead and a swift warning with a command and she would stop after a few goes of this

i wouldnt get rid of the dog just yet give this a go and see how ya get on
the dog ment no harm just wanted to play with them as she wouldnt no what they were

Thanks daithi55 Just that I am in bad form right at the minute gave her a feed when we came back the Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" I just looked and said NO feeling sorry for myself right now,:(:confused:

EPointer=Birdss

Jaysus man relax. That's mad talk.
Get a E collar, stick it on her, let her out again, let her go in their direction & turn her upside down with the collar. I wouldn't even call her her first. Make her think the sheep did it! Reassure her when she gets back & walk a different direction. She'll come round after the fright.

TriggerPL

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

Jaysus man relax. That's mad talk.
Get a E collar, stick it on her, let her out again, let her go in their direction & turn her upside down with the collar. I wouldn't even call her her first. Make her think the sheep did it! Reassure her when she gets back & walk a different direction. She'll come round after the fright.

Took words out of my mouth , you can try a long lead and if she makes a break, hit the hand break straight away . Def no reason to get ride of her , what age is she

kildarejoe

the Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" I just looked and said NO.

Your right, them women can be right hard to train alright.

TriggerPL

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Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" :[/Quote]

Should have replyed well it didn work with you so it not going to work with her

Nothing worse than the women trying to help and you fit to be tie up with rage !

EPointer=Birdss

kildarejoe wrote: »

the Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" I just looked and said NO.

Your right, them women can be right hard to train alright.

How'd I miss that!!

TriggerPL

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

kildarejoe wrote: »

the Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" I just looked and said NO.

Your right, them women can be right hard to train alright.

How'd I miss that!!

Haha bet to it twice , great minds I guess

EPointer=Birdss

TriggerPL wrote: »

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Wife came out to the garden and heard what happened and said " Can you not train her more" :

Should have replyed well it didn work with you so it not going to work with her

Nothing worse than the women trying to help and you fit to be tie up with rage ![/QUOTE]

Condescending without even meaning it they can be!!
Put the collar on her when your finished with the dog!

Tawny Owl

Thanks Lads I'am going for a pint and to watch the Hurling good one on the Ecoller I need to relax now;);)

smokin ace

EPointer=Birdss wrote: »

Jaysus man relax. That's mad talk.
Get a E collar, stick it on her, let her out again, let her go in their direction & turn her upside down with the collar. I wouldn't even call her her first. Make her think the sheep did it! Reassure her when she gets back & walk a different direction. She'll come round after the fright.

i done this with a little lurcher bitch that use to run up to both sheep and cattle barking at them i put the e collar on her a gave her a few darts of it every time she got close to them and now she afraid of her siht of them

i know another lad that had a springer that done the same and his brother was a farmer so they came up with the idea of putting the springer in a small shed with a ewe with a lamb at foot and the ewe starting pucking at the dog to protect the lamb and every time the ewe pucked the dog the boys gave the dog a shot of the collar and now the dog totally avoids sheep altogether

kermitpwee

Relax, dont get rid of the bitch, all dogs must be introduced to livestock. I introduced my springer to sheep and horses this year. Its a natural instinct to chase the sheep when they start running. Now that she has had a taste,the ecollar may be needed. Not the dogs fault, it is totally different scenario to blood thirsty dogs in a pack after sheep. Good luck mate.

Blackstairs Mountain Man

You want to do the work with the E collar in the next week or so. Rams are probably in with ewes now or else will be moving in the next week or so. It really is a job that should of been done a few months ago but I understand that you didn't realise you had a problem. Ewes do not want to be run at the best of times but running them when in lamb creates a good chance of abortion etc.

You could steady her to chickens if she doesn't chase them good chance she won't chase sheep. My pups are about hens from 8 weeks of age and never bat an eyelid at any other stock after that. Its not an irretrievable situation but there is always a chance of a relapse in the future. Hopefully you get it sorted.

lucky john

Blackstairs Mountain Man wrote: »

You want to do the work with the E collar in the next week or so. Rams are probably in with ewes now or else will be moving in the next week or so. It really is a job that should of been done a few months ago but I understand that you didn't realise you had a problem. Ewes do not want to be run at the best of times but running them when in lamb creates a good chance of abortion etc.


+1

The Sheep farmer v gun dog relationship is fraught enough at the best of times. This is not a good time of year to annoy sheep (or farmer).
If the dog shows promise, maybe avoid sheep land this season and train her up next summer.

marlin vs

Personally myself I wouldn't give that dog a second chance I'd have shot the dog there and then,I saw it before with a mates dog, the bad came out in the end this is just my point of view.

sikahuntejack

This is easy to fix put your dog on a lead walk the gog in a field of sheep the dog starts to run for the sheep a good smack of the lead keep at this for a while it will work

thermo

you could arrange to have the dog put in a smallish pen with a contankerous old ram for half an hour, its supposed to cure the chasing of sheep.

EPointer=Birdss

The collar trick cured by pointer. Same fella would of once happily eaten a sheep for ya. He has a healthy respect for them now I tell ya.

Not all dog sheep stories are as miserable.
I remember in the last few seasons a farmer friend had a ewe stuck in a sink hole - i stumbled across it whiles out shooting - in fact the dog did. She was fully fleeced & was few hours from been dead I'd say. Had lost all fight. Anyway I put the gun aside, rolled up the sleeves & said only one way to get EWE (sorry) out of this I thought!
Anyway I was pulling & struggling & then I could feel some thugging - looked up & the pointer was locked on to her fleece taking mouth fulls. I am still not sure was he trying to help or did he think fair game because I was at it so he was allowed too! He wasn't ragging or tearing just pulling as I was.
Anyway got the misfortune out eventually, covered in ****e I was & off she went & no bother on her once she got going. I wasn't spotted by anyone that I know of so wasn't accused of anything indecent!
Anyway in this case rather than been chased or worried by a gun dog a sheep was in essence saved by one! Ironic enough!

Tawny Owl

It's now midweek and I have relaxed and taken in all the advice and tips on how this Springer of mine can get a second chance I have an Ecoller on charge at the moment I am collecting it this evening and me and Miss Ruby are going for a walk to a field full of sheep I will take a long rope as well to let her off a short distance and as said before if she shows any intrest in them she getting the full blast.

Thanks for all the help and the relaxing comment was laughing afterwards;)

Antoennis

Lets us know how you get on.

terminator2

dont get rid of the dog tawny , it was your mistake not the dogs , i rehabilatate dogs i train people.....put an electric collar on yourself and the next time you make a mistake shock yourself :D

Tawny Owl

Antoennis wrote: »

Lets us know how you get on.

When out today Saturday put the coller on the Dog let her range out a little never showed any interest in the sheep, so me and Ruby are the best of mates she did get a shock or two for ranging a little to far but I know she got the message drops on the whistle now waits till I walk to her I think we are fine now.

terminator2 wrote: »

dont get rid of the dog tawny , it was your mistake not the dogs , i rehabilatate dogs i train people.....put an electric collar on yourself and the next time you make a mistake shock yourself :D

I am keeping Ruby for some reason I feel we bonded a lot more today dont know why just feel the Dog is more into what we are both doing sounds stuipid but there you go as to putting the coller on myself no thanks:D it was my own fault I kept her away from sheep but I strongly think now all our Dogs should be introduced to sheep as early as possible then the coller would not have been needed today.

Cheer all and thanks very much for all the post's I took a lot from them :D

jarv

Tawny Owl wrote: »

Antoennis wrote: »

Lets us know how you get on.

When out today Saturday put the coller on the Dog let her range out a little never showed any interest in the sheep, so me and Ruby are the best of mates she did get a shock or two for ranging a little to far but I know she got the message drops on the whistle now waits till I walk to her I think we are fine now.

terminator2 wrote: »

dont get rid of the dog tawny , it was your mistake not the dogs , i rehabilatate dogs i train people.....put an electric collar on yourself and the next time you make a mistake shock yourself :D

I am keeping Ruby for some reason I feel we bonded a lot more today dont know why just feel the Dog is more into what we are both doing sounds stuipid but there you go as to putting the coller on myself no thanks:D it was my own fault I kept her away from sheep but I strongly think now all our Dogs should be introduced to sheep as early as possible then the coller would not have been needed today.

Cheer all and thanks very much for all the post's I took a lot from them :D

My lab is the first dog iv trained and found dog training is a rollcoaster some days it all clicks and the dog does every thing you want, other days I want to turn him in to a
rug. After 2 years of hard work I took him out with an old hand at dog training a few weeks ago first retrive he threw a 70 yard retrive for me in to high grass behind a tree I was thinking I no chance my dogs seen that, I sent him and he straight lined it to the mark picked it up and sprinted back to my side that made all the hard work worth it. Keep at it through the ups and downs.

Tawny Owl

jarv wrote: »

My lab is the first dog iv trained and found dog training is a rollcoaster some days it all clicks and the dog does every thing you want, other days I want to turn him in to a
rug. After 2 years of hard work I took him out with an old hand at dog training a few weeks ago first retrive he threw a 70 yard retrive for me in to high grass behind a tree I was thinking I no chance my dogs seen that, I sent him and he straight lined it to the mark picked it up and sprinted back to my side that made all the hard work worth it. Keep at it through the ups and downs.

To be honest jarv I may be having a problem trying to sort this Springer out but I did breed Rotwillers over 26 years ago I trained them and had problems with them also so the Springer is only another step in going forward in Dog training just a different breed I will sort this Dog out so thanks for you your views and Thanks