weight loss on belly

lowly26

hi all,

im wanting to lose some weight off my stomach or possible tone up. just wondering if any one could recommend specific excerises and food to avoid which would help with this?

i have already lost just over 1 and a half stone but need to try get at least one more stone off

thanks

swimming in a sea

lowly26 wrote: »

hi all,

im wanting to lose some weight off my stomach or possible tone up. just wondering if any one could recommend specific excerises and food to avoid which would help with this?

i have already lost just over 1 and a half stone but need to try get at least one more stone off

thanks

I think the secret to getting the "belly off" is try and cut back sugar to a minimum that includes natural sugars you get off fruit, get your vitamins from veg. Of course keep up the exercise but there are no exercises that can target belly fat. When your rid off the belly fat you can do crunches etc and this will build strong abbs, but it won't reduce fat.

Others may have their own ideas, but when i followed the above my belly fat went in a matter of weeks.

lowly26

thanks for that ui have changed my diet so i eat more healthy and less often am walking alot and doin the excerise bike and will be goin to zumba from the weekend forward hopefully all this works

bbam

swimming in a sea wrote: »

I think the secret to getting the "belly off" is try and cut back sugar to a minimum that includes natural sugars you get off fruit,

No fat is fat, your body might prefer to stoore it on the belly or moobs but its still fat... There is no such thing as foods that cause fat to be stored in specific places..
OP will need to reduce their overall fat % to lose the belly, you can tone up at the same time..

Back to basics, fat is stored because your eating more calories than you're utilising in your lifestyle.. As boring as it sounds OP will need to reduce the overall intake and increase energy expenditure.. I wouldn't start by cutting out fruit.

Telling someone to avoid fruit to loose the belly is like telling them to walk backwards to help loose the belly.. its nonsence!

cd2012

I have found that giving up wheat has really helped, my belly is less bloated and much flatter.
As the other posters have said, you cannot lost body fat off specific places so losing allover body fat is all you can do, but I've found that eating a more Paleo diet (no wheat, dairy, sugar) has really helped with my tummy specifically...

Hope that's some help!

papu

First on last off , people usually build up fat reserves on their stomach first so it's the last place to come off , eat healthy , exercise , and strengthen your core and eventually you'll get there! Best of luck

swimming in a sea

bbam wrote: »

Telling someone to avoid fruit to loose the belly is like telling them to walk backwards to help loose the belly.. its nonsence!

Just giving my opinion to the op, there is plenty of evidence to back me up about fruit, fruit raises blood sugar levels which can make it hard to lose fat. So the only thing that is nonsense is your uninformed opinion.

vard

swimming in a sea wrote: »

bbam wrote: »

Telling someone to avoid fruit to loose the belly is like telling them to walk backwards to help loose the belly.. its nonsence!

Just giving my opinion to the op, there is plenty of evidence to back me up about fruit, fruit raises blood sugar levels which can make it hard to lose fat. So the only thing that is nonsense is your uninformed opinion.

Oh yeah, you're totally right. Fruit is the number one cause of obesity. If only the fatties would give up the apples, the epidemic would be sorted.

Op, advice: don't listen to "opinion" or misconstrued science. Calories are all you need to focus on if you want to trim the gut.

endacl

Vard talks sense. Listen to Vard, OP.

swimming in a sea

vard wrote: »

Op, advice: don't listen to "opinion" or misconstrued science. Calories are all you need to focus on if you want to trim the gut.

That's what you'll get on boards, opinion. Oh your calories comment is totally wrong and that's fact. Educate yourself a little and you'll know there is a lot more to losing weight than +/- calories

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

swimming in a sea wrote: »

Educate yourself a little and you'll know there is a lot more to losing weight than +/- calories

wha.... no there isn't

there is nothing more to losing weight than +/- calories. literally nothing.

you could lose weight eating gummi bears and sugar cubes so long as you ate at a calorie deficit.

ViveLaVie

bbam wrote: »

swimming in a sea wrote: »

I think the secret to getting the "belly off" is try and cut back sugar to a minimum that includes natural sugars you get off fruit,

No fat is fat, your body might prefer to stoore it on the belly or moobs but its still fat... There is no such thing as foods that cause fat to be stored in specific places..
OP will need to reduce their overall fat % to lose the belly, you can tone up at the same time..

Back to basics, fat is stored because your eating more calories than you're utilising in your lifestyle.. As boring as it sounds OP will need to reduce the overall intake and increase energy expenditure.. I wouldn't start by cutting out fruit.

Telling someone to avoid fruit to loose the belly is like telling them to walk backwards to help loose the belly.. its nonsence!

What if your overall bodyfat percentage is low? If you're thin and the only excess fat you carry is on the tummy and it's not there because of overeating?

bbam

swimming in a sea wrote: »

Just giving my opinion to the op, there is plenty of evidence to back me up about fruit, fruit raises blood sugar levels which can make it hard to lose fat. So the only thing that is nonsense is your uninformed opinion.

But this again is where moderation comes in to play...
If you go all OTT on any food it will have a potentially negative effect...

Fruit is very good for anyone loosing weight as they can have good ammounts compared to other things, its also convenient to replace snacks etc...

No matter what people want to think or believe there is no magic food to avoid to get area specific weight loss.. The only option is an overall reduction in body fat % and it will show in places where fat is stored..

It comes back to the old nugget, consume less than you expend and you will use up your fat stores.. Exercise will help at it will both expend more calories and help tone up the body.

Remember through if your starting exercise from having done very little your body will need to build some lean muscle, this can reduce the weight loss but shouldn't be seen as a negative thing, muscle can look toned and much improve the appearance..

A proper, long term change in a persons body fat%, muscle tone and overall diet isn't a quick fix, expect it to take 9-12 months of work but at least you have a sustainable lifestyle... Quicker weight loss from "faddy" diets isn't sustainable, is usually put back on, often with more weight, and that constant yo-yo weight loss/gain is bad for your body, physically and psychologically.

bbam

ViveLaVie wrote: »

What if your overall bodyfat percentage is low? If you're thin and the only excess fat you carry is on the tummy and it's not there because of overeating?

Exercises that tone the core should help tighten up the appearance...

ViveLaVie

bbam wrote: »

ViveLaVie wrote: »

What if your overall bodyfat percentage is low? If you're thin and the only excess fat you carry is on the tummy and it's not there because of overeating?

Exercises that tone the core should help tighten up the appearance...

There is some fat though and afaik core exercises only tone the muscle underneath the fat? I'm not very knowledgeable on this but talking in terms of an apple shaped female that is slim what would you suggest? Ideally no fat would be lost on the remainder of the body.

bbam

I I would say work on the core muscles for a while. Build up some condition in the muscles and see how you feel.

Mellor

ViveLaVie wrote: »

What if your overall bodyfat percentage is low? If you're thin and the only excess fat you carry is on the tummy and it's not there because of overeating?

Can you give an example, pic or whatever of donebody with low body fat but a fat tummy.

Lago

Wow, the amount of totally misinformed people in this thread is..... sudden

ViveLaVie wrote: »

There is some fat though and afaik core exercises only tone the muscle underneath the fat? I'm not very knowledgeable on this but talking in terms of an apple shaped female that is slim what would you suggest? Ideally no fat would be lost on the remainder of the body.

You won't lose fat on your stomach by strengthing your abdominals, that's impossible. But by increasing the amount of muscle in the area you can sort of "shape" and "thighen" the fat so it doesn't look so flabby.

And yes, I realise that last sentence looks retarded :P

ViveLaVie

Mellor wrote: »

Can you give an example, pic or whatever of donebody with low body fat but a fat tummy.

It is very difficult to find a picture of a celebrity with low overall body fat but a bit of a tummy because usually they have personal trainers and/or exercise a lot so even if they're apple shaped women it is likely they've rectified the issue through some sort of regime. Or maybe this problem is quite unusual.

I have a few pictures here of Kate Upton. She's absolutely gorgeous, no question. She's also a Sports Illustrated model so her body is in good shape. I don't think she has a 'fat' stomach but she is an example of the body type I'm talking about. She is an apple shaped woman.

So if you look at the pictures, you can see that her widest and thickest part is her torso and her legs and arms are leaner in proportion to that. Despite the fact that she works out a lot and her stomach is flat and in shape, you can still see that she carries a little extra there than would be normal for a woman of her fitness level who is in such good shape. That's her genetics I think - she's predisposed to carrying weight there first.

Now imagine a woman who has the same body type but is inactive. Her tummy is looser than Kate's and more rounded and carries a bit of excess fat there, but like Kate her legs and arms are skinny. She doesn't want to lose any weight on her legs but wants to lose it off the tummy. What regime would you suggest for a person like this?

Lago wrote: »

Wow, the amount of totally misinformed people in this thread is..... sudden

You won't lose fat on your stomach by strengthing your abdominals, that's impossible. But by increasing the amount of muscle in the area you can sort of "shape" and "thighen" the fat so it doesn't look so flabby.

And yes, I realise that last sentence looks retarded :P

Yeah that's what I thought, which is why it is so difficult to find accurate advice. I already started another thread on this and while I did get what seemed to be very well-thought out replies and educated people answering, there were a lot of disagreements and most people found it difficult to visualise a woman with a low weight with a fat tummy!

bbam

Don't take this wrong..

For the love of god stop looking at pictures of "celebs"..

They aren't what people should be trying to emulate.. They don't lead normal lives, few eat normal and most spend enormous sums of money on training, personal trainers and other unattainable crap.. Many, many have sugery or their photos are touched up..

Be a good weight, eat well, treat yourself sometimes, exercise, tone up... be the best you can and live your own life... trying to become someone else is a sure route to unhappiness and discontentment.

ViveLaVie

bbam wrote: »

Don't take this wrong..

For the love of god stop looking at pictures of "celebs"..

They aren't what people should be trying to emulate.. They don't lead normal lives, few eat normal and most spend enormous sums of money on training, personal trainers and other unattainable crap.. Many, many have sugery or their photos are touched up..

Be a good weight, eat well, treat yourself sometimes, exercise, tone up... be the best you can and live your own life... trying to become someone else is a sure route to unhappiness and discontentment.

Yeah I am aware of that. I want to get information on how to train a figure like this. I don't understand why you think I am obsessed with celebrity bodies. Where is it indicated that I just look at pictures of celebs?? I only posted those pictures in response to someone who was finding it hard to visualise a body built like that and actually asked for pictures.

I do not want to be someone else. I want the correct advice on how to train appropriately for my shape. I do not want to sacrifice mass on my legs in order to reduce fat on the tummy.

Mellor

ViveLaVie wrote: »

i only posted those pictures in response to someone who was finding it hard to visualise a body built like that and actually asked for pictures.

You said a body with low body fat generally but a fat belly.
In those photos she doesn't have low body fat. Now dies it look like there's is extra on her belly. It just looks normal.

There's no exercises or diets that are for specific body types. Your body will dictate where it comes from and that will differ in different people, but the method of losing is the same.

ViveLaVie

Mellor wrote: »

ViveLaVie wrote: »

i only posted those pictures in response to someone who was finding it hard to visualise a body built like that and actually asked for pictures.

You said a body with low body fat generally but a fat belly.
In those photos she doesn't have low body fat. Now dies it look like there's is extra on her belly. It just looks normal.

There's no exercises or diets that are for specific body types. Your body will dictate where it comes from and that will differ in different people, but the method of losing is the same.

Apologies for my wording. I suppose I mean a body where the fat is on the belly and there is a low level of fat elsewhere e.g. bf is less than 20 percent, bmi is 19 and at a minimum weight for height. Cn't afford to lose weight but there is fat on the tummy.

I also said she doesn't have a fat tummy. She works out but the shape would be the same with a small bit extra on the tummy i.e. thin limbs and heaviest on the torso. It is difficult to find pictures to illustrate my point as most celebs work out. This was the only person I could find that is remotely similar. You have to imagine her with a slightly more exaggerated tummy.

The picture of her from behind, it is clear that she has love handles and her torso is wider in proportion to her thin legs and arms. This is despite the fact that she exercises loads and doesn't have a 'fat' tummy. I am talking in terms of a woman who is like her but doesn't work out so has more fat on the tummy and has similar legs and arms. I am basically looking for exercises to build legs while stripping the torso.

Mellor

ViveLaVie wrote: »

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I also said she doesn't have a fat tummy. She works out but the dhape would be the same with a small bit extra on the tummy i.e. thin limbs and heaviest on the torso. It is difficult to find pictures to illustrate my point as most celebs work out. This was the only person I could find that is remotely similar. You have to imagine her with a slightly more exaggerated tummy.

I know what you are describing, some people are just have that apple body type.

I am talking in terms of a woman who is like her but doesn't work out so has more fat on the tummy and has similar legs and arms. I am basically looking for exercises to build legs while stripping the torso.

If she didn't work out she would prob have more fat everywhere not just her tummy.

Leg work like squats, deadlifts will build leg muscles. But there are no exercises that can strip fat from the torso. That's been repeated a lot so far. I'm not sure you are going to get the answer you want.

ViveLaVie

Mellor wrote: »

ViveLaVie wrote: »

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I also said she doesn't have a fat tummy. She works out but the dhape would be the same with a small bit extra on the tummy i.e. thin limbs and heaviest on the torso. It is difficult to find pictures to illustrate my point as most celebs work out. This was the only person I could find that is remotely similar. You have to imagine her with a slightly more exaggerated tummy.

I know what you are describing, some people are just have that apple body type.

I am talking in terms of a woman who is like her but doesn't work out so has more fat on the tummy and has similar legs and arms. I am basically looking for exercises to build legs while stripping the torso.

If she didn't work out she would prob have more fat everywhere not just her tummy.

Leg work like squats, deadlifts will build leg muscles. But there are no exercises that can strip fat from the torso. That's been repeated a lot so far. I'm not sure you are going to get the answer you want.

Okay. Is it possible to do cardio to lose fat all over but to gain muscle to offset mass loss from the legs without overly building up the upper body? Surely this is possible? I understand your point about her having more fat overall if she didn't work out but if you could imagine that she gained most of it in the middle and so was a bit more out of proportion..?

papu

ViveLaVie wrote: »

Okay. Is it possible to do cardio to lose fat all over but to gain muscle to offset mass loss from the legs without overly building up the upper body?

Losing fat and gaining muscle is no mean feat, losing fat means consuming less calories , and gaining muscle means eating at a calorific surplus.It IS possible with very strict and well tuned diet. But this is also especially difficult for females who lack the testosterone for large muscle growth.
You can certainly tone up your legs , making them look more defined and shapely. but to expect an equal muscle to mass offset would be another thing.

Building up the upper body would be the least of your worries. it doesn't happen overnight , and taking it off is so much more difficult that putting it on.

But perhaps i don't understand the core of the question.

elhal

Im just going to go on what i find works best...... cardio for losing fat in all areas. eventually it will come off your belly slowly but surely.... can do crunches etc but the will only tone the muscle that lies beneath the fat so get rid of that first with plenty of cardio, water and watching what your eating.. (i use myfitnesspal.com) Its a slow process in general!

LeinsterDub

papu wrote: »

Losing fat and gaining muscle is no mean feat, losing fat means consuming less calories , and gaining muscle means eating at a calorific surplus.It IS possible with very strict and well tuned diet..

Isn't that a direct contradiction ? How can you consume less and more calories at the same time ?

papu

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Isn't that a direct contradiction ? How can you consume less and more calories at the same time ?

Yeah sorry i tripped myself up there. You obviously can't do both at the same time. This is going to explain it better than i ever could http://scoobysworkshop.com/gain-muscle-lose-fat/

Madam_X

vard wrote: »

Oh yeah, you're totally right. Fruit is the number one cause of obesity. If only the fatties would give up the apples, the epidemic would be sorted.

I don't think that's what is being suggested by Swimming In A Sea - all they are saying is that you'll get noticeable results if you cut down on sugar as much as possible. I'd see where they are coming from - reducing wheat totally makes a difference to the tum, why not sugar?
That said, I know "opinion" is irrelevant - it's either a fact or it isn't; it's not subjective.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

wha.... no there isn't

there is nothing more to losing weight than +/- calories. literally nothing.

you could lose weight eating gummi bears and sugar cubes so long as you ate at a calorie deficit.

I remember someone saying that before and they were advised that there is a difference in terms of how the body actually uses what foodstuffs are put in.

Mellor wrote: »

Can you give an example, pic or whatever of donebody with low body fat but a fat tummy.

http://whenyourebored.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/amyoutforasmoke1.jpg

I know what's being referred to - even at my skinniest (ribs showing) I still had a sticky-out tummy.

nice_guy80

as a very fit and active person all my life (multiple sports - athletics, GAA, soccer etc) it was only when i seriously got into changing my diet to very little wheat and upping my lean meat and veg intake that i shifted the last few pounds. That along with a decent weights program in the gym from a proper strength and conditioning coach.

I was never really 'overweight', just no matter how much running, cycling, swimming, training I did I couldn't shift the extra bit of weight

So change your eating habits and change up your exercise plan.

superfrank

How did you find out what was best for us and that you need to cut back on wheat?

I feel as though I’m willing to put in the work in the gym and diet but am clueless as what the best thing to do is?

Half thinking of seeing a nutritionist

ukonline

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May I suggest you read the Wheat Belly Blog
success stories:

http://www.wheatbellyblog.com/success-stories/

...and the reviews for the book, Wheat Belly, on
Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-Weight-Health/product-reviews/1609611543/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt/175-6289880-6930524?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

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