Recording directly from Satellite to BD

Souriau

Hi
I am looking info in how to set-up on a PC to record BBC HD, ITV HD onto a BD that I can also have subtitles and 5.1 soundtracks when playback on BD player.
I am looking to buy a new PCI satellite DVB-S2 card for the PC
Can anyone recommend a PCI card that work best for my need?

I just want to record off-air for my own use to view at a later time or something I want to watch agaiin.

TIA

STB

You should have a look at the new stuff that came out from Tenow, some of them have four inputs (other single or dual).



Telesatellite Review: PDF here

You will get them @ buydvb.net

sligotrain

Yes, any PC-DVB card will enable your PC to record DVB Transport Streams. Once you have the stream (programme) you want just burn it onto a BD disk or indeed any other media that can take the size of stream you record.

Souriau

When I get the TS files burned onto a BD. Can I play this disc directly on the BD player and watch on TV?

watty

No. You need to use a utility to convert TS to PS.
Then you need a BD authoring tool as the file format and structure for PC data files is completely different to BD video structure.

Without doing this it will only reliably play on the PC you recorded it on.

Some BD players may play PC mpeg4 files as a "bonus". The file content though needs to be re-multiplexed as PS format rather than TS format.

Most PCs won't even play TS format unless DVB card/dongle reception/record/playback software is installed.

TS= direct copy of Transmission (Transport Stream)
PS = File structure used for PC or Player files (Program stream).
The PS header explains all about the file. With TS there is no inherently accurate header as recording start and stop can be at any time in a transmission.

You can convert from TS to PS without changing the actual data. So no quality change and fast. Re-encoding MPEG4 as well as file conversion is slow and always reduces quality unless the file size grows dramatically.

Souriau

I am understanding some of the above
What is the end result I want is
HD quality, able to switched on subtitles when required on a blu-ray player.
I have already recorded some programs and using VLC media player on the PC, I am able to switched on subtitles and if I was recording from RTE, I can also view Aertel teletext on that day of the recording and select 888 for subtitles.
I have notice RTE2 HD is 1440x1080 while BBC1 HD is 1920x1080
Back to subtitles
Is there a program that can pull the subtitles data from TS files?

watty

If you have decent TS to PS conversion tool, you get DVD or BD subtitles as per normal when you Author the DVD or BD video disk.

i.e. you have a menu option and/or a subtitles button on the DVD/BD remote works.

VLC is very limited.

Yes you can "extract" the subtitles. But then what?

Souriau

Which software would you suggest for TS to PS?
I have CyberLink PowerDirector that I use to put some of TS files onto DVD but it does not transfer subtitles but they can add subtitles if I have a different file to add to the video

watty

I used to use PVAstrumento for MPEG2 TS to PS and then a Nero utility to author DVD. But it's very old and I don't know how well it works with all the data. MPEG4 video is still in a MPEG2 TS, so it might do what you want.

You'd be better joining up on various AVforums, not boards, for more expert up to date answers.

STB

Souriau wrote: »

Which software would you suggest for TS to PS?
I have CyberLink PowerDirector that I use to put some of TS files onto DVD but it does not transfer subtitles but they can add subtitles if I have a different file to add to the video

You do not want to convert TS to PS. PS strips the subs as it doesnt support subs. A PS file is a TS file without the subs and other mux data.

XMedia Recode, its free. Its drag and drop. You can create DVD standalone discs from the TS file including the subs (I think it hard codes them though from the original stream). You'll have to try it as I never done it with subs.

watty

Eh?
So where do DVDs and BDs store the Subtitles?

PS doesn't "strip" subtitles. Poor conversion tools do.

Certainly a BD authoring tool that can take TS files would be the way to go.

ALL playable DVD video and BD Video are using PS inside the files.