Fire traps - tip of the iceberg

Capri

Chap said to me ages ago that Priory Hall was only the beginning - now another south Dublin complex in trouble

Around 130 people were forced to leave the Laurels development in Dundrum in July after it was discovered it did not meet proper safety standards.

The receivers, KPMG, has confirmed that the cost of repairing the building would be prohibitive and it has decided to put it on the market.

KPMG has been acting on behalf of Bank of Scotland Ireland........

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0927/dundrum-laurels-apartments.html

sinnerboy

So other than repeating what someone told you and linking to an item on the States news agency site, do you have any insights of your own to share ?

actuallylike

sinnerboy wrote: »

So other than repeating what someone told you and linking to an item on the States news agency site, do you have any insights of your own to share ?

Relax the cacks! He seems to be simply suggesting that through insight of his friend that we're going to be seeing more and more of these. This being the Construction & Planning forum, maybe someone might have some more insider insight into this and who knows, some day maybe some sort of discussion might manifest?

Slig

From a discussion point of view, yes there may be more down the line, the building control side of construction in Ireland was always fairly lax.

Unfortunately some people took advantage of this and built outside of the regulations, the same way some people take advantage of a poor security system to steal from a shop. This does'nt mean that all developers took the same shortcuts to save money, that all supervising architects are careless/clueless or that all apartment buildings are poorly built.

The publicity that Priory Hall created has drawn attention to fire safety in apartments in particular and has highlighted the importance of building control, inevitably this will create more awareness of what is required and mean that more existing developments will be looked at more thoroughly and further cases will probably pop up.

mfceiling

I'm starting to pick up a fair bit of work where remedial fireproofing is now taking place.

A week of night shifts in a dublin hotel where a "fire" corridor for emergency exits was not fire rated!!

Hotel has to be sold to pay developers debts - fire officer won't issue fire certs for hotel - hotel cannot be sold without fire cert.

Stripping out old grid ceilings and replacing them with suspended metal ones with double layers of fire board.

Good for me work wise but again disappointing that the initial work was shoddy and not to building standards.

BryanF

mfceiling wrote: »

I'm starting to pick up a fair bit of work where remedial fireproofing is now taking place.

A week of night shifts in a dublin hotel where a "fire" corridor for emergency exits was not fire rated!!

Hotel has to be sold to pay developers debts - fire officer won't issue fire certs for hotel - hotel cannot be sold without fire cert.

Stripping out old grid ceilings and replacing them with suspended metal ones with double layers of fire board.

Good for me work wise but again disappointing that the initial work was shoddy and not to building standards.

how bad! its a pity our Local authority 'building control' wasn't there to being with.. btw it seems there is a modified 'building control' document about to be 'reissued' by the DOE..

beyondpassive

List of Local Building Control Officers to report non-compliances
(particularly for Part L)

http://www.environ.ie/en/DevelopmentHousing/BuildingStandards/PublicationsDocuments/FileDownLoad,1665,en.doc