Uh oh - guess who just joined the NWO...

Monty Burnz

Looks like the Iranians have joined in too:

Iran's president has said his country was under constant threat of military action from "uncivilized Zionists".
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for a new world order not dominated by Western powers in the service of "the devil."
In his eighth and likely final address to the UN General Assembly's annual gathering of world leaders, Mr Ahmadinejad painted a gloomy picture of a world driven by greed rather than morality.
"The current abysmal situation of the world and the bitter incidents of history are due mainly to the wrong management of the world and the self-proclaimed centres of power who have entrusted themselves to the devil," Mr Ahmadinejad said.

Although there seems to be some confusion about exactly who is and who isn't already in the NWO - raising a possibility that will shock some people here: could 'New World Order' just be a phrase referring to a new way of organising international affairs, rather than an actually existing vehicle for ambitious Anti-Christs?

Sarky

He called for a NWO. Seems at least as legit as that Kissinger chap.

Run_to_da_hills

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Looks like the Iranians have joined in too:


Although there seems to be some confusion about exactly who is and who isn't already in the NWO - raising a possibility that will shock some people here: could 'New World Order' just be a phrase referring to a new way of organising international affairs, rather than an actually existing vehicle for ambitious Anti-Christs?

Your slow,

Old news.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79386003

Sarky

So when Iran calls for new world order they're being bullied by the Murrcans, but when Kissinger said it OMG ANTICHRIST DEVIL OBAMA. Why that makes perfect sense.

Daithi 1

In fairness, Ahmadinejad mentioned a new world order based on love and justice for all humans. I get the feeling when the likes of Bush was talking about a new world order, he hadn't got either of the two in mind. Most likely a new world order of war, corruption loss of liberties and freedoms for the average Joe, millions of dead Iraqi's, Afghanistanis, Libyans etc, yet, lots of money and power for himself, his family, friends and lobbyists and current so called new world order cronies.

Fact is, there ARE a handful of greedy psychopaths who want all the power at everyone else's expense. It's not to hard to figure out who these people in are or who assists them, just look at their actions. That is fairly obvious to most people these days. It's almost like calling them murdering genocidal paedophile psychopaths is absolutely fine but call them NWO, and certain group dIckheads start hopping around the room bobbing tin foil hats over their heads

Call them what you want, New World Order, Illuminati, Reptoids or whatever. There is no point taking the piss out of people here for trying to expose them, your really only hurting yourself. And there is one thing you can be sure of is those psychopaths will be laughing out loud at you.

Do yourself a favor and listen to the full speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYKy4dfSF-o

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

There is no point taking the piss out of people here for trying to expose them, your really only hurting yourself. And there is one thing you can be sure of is those psychopaths will be laughing out loud at you.

The point is that there is no 'them'.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

The point is that there is no 'them'.

You mean 'they' dont meet in a dark room every Sunday and sacrifice human babies wearing hooded robes while chanting.
Are you telling me that certain people don't push these wars for personal gain ?

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

You mean 'they' dont meet in a dark room every Sunday and sacrifice human babies wearing hooded robes while chanting.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Are you telling me that certain people don't push these wars for personal gain ?

It depends on which people you mean, and which wars you mean. I'm sure that on a small scale, you get profiteering going on by arms dealers selling to both sides, that sort of thing. On a larger scale, I certainly can see Bush Jr. being convinced that going to war to 'free' Iraq would result in spin-offs for American business and choosing to believe what he wanted to be true (we see that a lot around here) in that regard - but that's nothing at all like the NWO that is postulated by NWO fans.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

It depends on which people you mean, and which wars you mean. I'm sure that on a small scale, you get profiteering going on by arms dealers selling to both sides, that sort of thing. On a larger scale, I certainly can see Bush Jr. being convinced that going to war to 'free' Iraq would result in spin-offs for American business and choosing to believe what he wanted to be true (we see that a lot around here) in that regard - but that's nothing at all like the NWO that is postulated by NWO fans.

I was referring to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. Do you think that anyone pushed for these wars for personal gain ??

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I was referring to the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. Do you think that anyone pushed for these wars for personal gain ??

No. But as I said, I can imagine Bush being sold on 'bringing freedom' while also bringing opportunities for American business as a side benefit. People are very happy to believe things that coincide with their own interests.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

No. But as I said, I can imagine Bush being sold on 'bringing freedom' while also bringing opportunities for American business as a side benefit. People are very happy to believe things that coincide with their own interests.

You are contradicting yourself.

American businesses would benefit on the side, tells me that certain businessmen benefit on the side. So, 'they', are the beneficiaries.

So there is a 'they' after all.



Oh, and I've listened to Ahmadinejads speech twice now and I havnt heard him say "New World Order" once.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

You are contradicting yourself.

American businesses would benefit on the side, tells me that certain businessmen benefit on the side. So, 'they', are the beneficiaries.

So there is a 'they' after all.

Yes, I've already clearly said that there would be people who benefit from opportunities thrown up by wars. Are they in leadership positions? No. So I don't see how this tallies with the NWO featuring the Prez, the lizards, the Illuminati, the Rothschilds and whatever you are having yourself.

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Oh, and I've listened to Ahmadinejads speech twice now and I havnt heard him say "New World Order" once.

I haven't heard Obama say it either - that doesn't stop the NWO fans roping him into their fantasy.

Daithi 1

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Yes, I've already clearly said that there would be people who benefit from opportunities thrown up by wars. Are they in leadership positions? No. So I don't see how this tallies with the NWO featuring the Prez, the lizards, the Illuminati, the Rothschilds and whatever you are having yourself.

I haven't heard Obama say it either - that doesn't stop the NWO fans roping him into their fantasy.

Would it be a huge surprise to find that those businessmen who benefit from the wars, are the ones who lobbied to get him into the presidency, ? Most likely the ones who sold him the idea of freedom. Which puts them into a position of power. A shadow government, so to speak. That's how it tallies up. As I said, call them what you want, but they are there and they exist.



I never said Omama did say it though, you did suggest Ahmadinejad did.

Monty Burnz

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Would it be a huge surprise to find that those businessmen who benefit from the wars, are the ones who lobbied to get him into the presidency, ? Most likely the ones who sold him the idea of freedom. Which puts them into a position of power. A shadow government, so to speak. That's how it tallies up. As I said, call them what you want, but they are there and they exist.

There's a lot of supposition there. There are plenty of people in positions to influence choice of presidential nominee, to lobby for various actions or inactions, to fund campaigns. Are these people all part of the NWO? Family planning organisations, the NAACP, the Green movement, family values groups - all in the NWO? Or just some of the hundreds of lobby groups trying to influence policy?

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I never said Omama did say it though, you did suggest Ahmadinejad did.

But by the terms of the stranger CT fans, he did - because the media suggests that he said it. I even provided a video someone doing exactly that with Obama! This is my point.

The NWO is whatever the CT fan wants it to be to suit their own prejudices.

Brown Bomber

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I certainly can see Bush Jr. being convinced that going to war to 'free' Iraq

There was no war to free Iraq. There was a pre-emptive strike against a state which supposedly had WMDs to neutralise it. However, this was a complete fraud, whoever "they" are and what does it really matter if call them NWO or anything else? "they" sold a war to a population based on lies (Niger forgeries, anthrax etc) and would only do this to serve a specific purpose.

Monty Burnz

Brown Bomber wrote: »

There was no war to free Iraq. There was a pre-emptive strike against a state which supposedly had WMDs to neutralise it.

There's a debate to be had around that and I doubt there was any single motive even among the principal actors - but you will note I put 'free' in inverted commas advisedly.

weisses

They are all in it togehther :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwlOSdFEhlY