NO RENT ALLOWANCE

ZXXXZ

What is the deal with all the house to rent ads that say NO RENT ALLOWANCE? This is a big insult to all of us who worked hard during the boom but have now fallen on hard times.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

how is 188 a week not enough to get a room in a house + bills/food

fasttalkerchat

Its just an easy way to rule out most scumbags... unfortunately it also discriminates against the disabled and people out of work through no fault of their own.

EDDIE WATERS

Hit them a smack in the face

GLaDOS

Is that legal? Why would they care where the money comes form anyway? Unless I'm missing something.

mikemac1

All landlords dream of the "young professional"

HeyThereDeliah

What is rent allowance ? Tax payers money that's paying mortgages for landlords. If you can't afford to pay your way live at home.

EDDIE WATERS

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Is that legal? Why would they care where the money comes form anyway? Unless I'm missing something.

Drug money

biko

I think what they're trying to say is "no white runners/baseball caps".

Zamboni

It is their personal private property.
They are under no obligations to let to anybody they do not choose to.

eth0

mikemac1 wrote: »

All landlords dream of the "young professional"

What about an old professional? Do they get messier as they get older?

Sinfonia

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

If you can't afford to pay your way live at home.

That sentence is retarded on several levels.

EDDIE WATERS

Sinfonia wrote: »

That sentence is retarded on several levels.

Rent a box and youre to go

HeyThereDeliah

Sinfonia wrote: »

That sentence is retarded on several levels.

Living with the parents not popular anymore ?

KindOfIrish

ZXXXZ wrote: »

What is the deal with all the house to rent ads that say NO RENT ALLOWANCE? This is a big insult to all of us who worked hard during the boom but have now fallen on hard times.

Just don't tell them, that you are on RA. Sign the lease and then ask to sign RA form. If a landlord refuses, live for free. simple

ejmaztec

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

What is rent allowance ? Tax payers money that's paying mortgages for landlords. If you can't afford to pay your way live at home.

What if you're an orphan and there isn't a home to go to?

humbert

Lived in a house with a guy on rent allowance. Cans and music blaring every night. Don't blame them.

EDDIE WATERS

humbert wrote: »

Lived in a house with a guy on rent allowance. Cans and music blaring every night. Don't blame them.

What the drugs and hookers

Pottler

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

Living with the parents not popular anymore ?

Above the age of 16, and given average intelligence, it was never that popular to begin with.

HeyThereDeliah

ejmaztec wrote: »

What if you're an orphan and there isn't a home to go to?

Rent a room in a shared house does not cost that much. There would be no need for rent allowance.

Tasden

Because the backlog in rent supplement applications leads to delays in them being processed which means people are waiting nearly three months for payments to come through. This means unless they have savings or income from another source they can't pay the landlord during this time, why would landlords want to wait that long when they can get tenants in with a steady income that can pay the rent on time. Also if the tenant is then refused rent supplement they can just do a runner after leaving the landlord without rent for months on end while the application was being processed.

EDDIE WATERS

Pottler wrote: »

Above the age of 16, and given average intelligence, it was never that popular to begin with.

What is average intelligence
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HeyThereDeliah

Pottler wrote: »

Above the age of 16, and given average intelligence, it was never that popular to begin with.

But yet so many do it.

fasttalkerchat

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

Rent a room in a shared house does not cost that much. There would be no need for rent allowance.

If I lost my job I wouldn't be too happy to be told I had to move in with 2 complete strangers who are also unemployed.
I wouldn't expect anyone else to do it either.

ejmaztec

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

Rent a room in a shared house does not cost that much. There would be no need for rent allowance.

It'll get a bit a bit crowded with the average size family crammed into one room.

dttq

ZXXXZ wrote: »

What is the deal with all the house to rent ads that say NO RENT ALLOWANCE? This is a big insult to all of us who worked hard during the boom but have now fallen on hard times.

An even better question (or two perhaps) is

(a) why is it even legal in the first place to discriminate against people on RA?

(b) why aren't these ads, and the people posting them on websites like daft.ie investigated? "No rent allowance accepted" on a renting website in my opinion screams "I'm a tax dodging landlord who pockets all the tenants monthly contributions without contributing to the revenue like I'm legally obliged to.".

Zamboni

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

If I lost my job I wouldn't be too happy to be told I had to move in with 2 complete strangers who are also unemployed.
I wouldn't expect anyone else to do it either.

Beggars can't be choosers.

Sinfonia

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

What is rent allowance ? Tax payers money that's paying mortgages for landlords. If you can't afford to pay your way live at home.

1) By definition, everyone lives at home - except homeless people.
2) Rent allowance is also a method of allowing those who cannot otherwise afford rent to have a home.
3) It is not an option for all people (for various reasons) to live in their parents' home.
4) Stop whining about "tax payers money" - it's an incredibly ignorant thing to do, particularly in a country with a relatively low personal tax rate, and when the subject you're discussing is actually a matter of money being spent on the public good and the protection of society; there are so many other things tax revenue can be (and often is) recklessly wasted on.

Doop

dttq wrote: »

An even better question (or two perhaps) is

(a) why is it even legal in the first place to discriminate against people on RA?

Side note ... and I may be wrong but I believe its legal due to the fact that people on R.A are a cross section of society, all together they cannot be defined as a race, religion, member of travelling community, or sexual orientation.
Therefore its not discrimination, while it may be discriminating against people of a certain income I do not think there is a provision for that.

HeyThereDeliah

Sinfonia wrote: »

1) By definition, everyone lives at home - except homeless people.
2) Rent allowance is also a method of allowing those who cannot otherwise afford rent to have a home.
3) It is not an option for all people (for various reasons) to live in their parents' home.
4) Stop whining about "tax payers money" - it's an incredibly ignorant thing to do, particularly in a country with a relatively low personal tax rate, and when the subject you're discussing is actually a matter of money being spent on the public good and the protection of society; there are so many other things tax revenue can be (and often is) recklessly wasted on.

Rent allowance is abused by landlords asking stupid prices for property and social welfare have pandered to them in the past, thankfully it's changing.
I have rented some ****holes in the past and landlords care not a ****e about tenants it's all about how much they can get.

mikemac1

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

If I lost my job I wouldn't be too happy to be told I had to move in with 2 complete strangers who are also unemployed.
I wouldn't expect anyone else to do it either.

Like anyone I had to work a succession of jobs until I got a good one so I could afford to rent a bedsit for myself.

Renting a room is cheaper and if you have to share a house when you're on welfare then so be it

When you have a good job again you can rent wherever you want

dttq

Imho, if "no rent allowance accepted" ads were made illegal, we would catch a lot more tax dodging landlord scumbags off their guard. What most gombeen pricks renting out don't like about rent allowance is that the state would soon cop on to the fact that they are renting out their house, and owe the taxman a shilling or two, if they had to sign the documents for rent allowance.

English - Gombeenish/ landlorish dictionary

no rent allowance accepted = don't want to pay tax like everyone else running a business, or bring state/ taxman attention to my pay in the hand enterprise, of which I'm dodging thousands of euros in taxes each year which should be going toward the revenue.

Tombi!

Because in general rent allowance is giving to people on the dole.
People on the dole = scumbags.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm back to me Druids cider.

MistyCheese

Zamboni wrote: »

Beggars can't be choosers.

MONDAY: Leave your home, kiss partner goodbye, head into work.

TUESDAY: Fired!

WEDNESDAY: Beggar.

Rough week.

Muir

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

What is rent allowance ? Tax payers money that's paying mortgages for landlords. If you can't afford to pay your way live at home.

Do you honestly think if a family (say 2 parents, 2 kids) fall on hard times and need rent allowance to get by, their parents will take them back home no bother? They most likely wouldn't even have the room to be taking in a whole family.

dttq

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

People on the dole = scumbags.

Careful now, next thing you know, you'll be getting a job offer within Maggie Thatcher's cabinet.

Zamboni

MistyCheese wrote: »

MONDAY: Leave your home, kiss partner goodbye, head into work.

TUESDAY: Fired!

WEDNESDAY: Beggar.

Rough week.

Thursday: Use savings for living requirements whilst finding employment

BornToKill

Doop wrote: »

Side note ... and I may be wrong but I believe its legal due to the fact that people on R.A are a cross section of society, all together they cannot be defined as a race, religion, member of travelling community, or sexual orientation.
Therefore its not discrimination, while it may be discriminating against people of a certain income I do not think there is a provision for that.

That's about it, alright. Lack of substantial income is not one of the nine grounds on which one cannot discriminate under the Equal Status Acts.

Tombi!

dttq wrote: »

Careful now, next thing you know, you'll be getting a job offer within Maggie Thatcher's cabinet.

Well I dunno if I can accept that.
As it stands now, the offo, the bookies, the shop for milk and bread and the post office takes me at most, 4 minutes of walking.

If I have to walk further, I'm not taking the job.

dttq

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Well I dunno if I can accept that.
As it stands now, the offo, the bookies, the shop for milk and bread and the post office takes me at most, 4 minutes of walking.

If I have to walk further, I'm not taking the job.

The post office? Bloody commie!

R0ot

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

how is 188 a week not enough to get a room in a house + bills/food

Is this a troll? :pac:

irishgirl19

A lot of landlords dont declare their tax if they take rent allowance they Will get caught out

El Weirdo

Troll thread locked.

OP banned.