Satellite dish direct to TV

alwayssideways

Sorry if this has been asked already but I could not find it in the search.

I moved into a new house recently and noticed there is an unused satellite dish on the house. I also recently purchased a SAMSUNG UE46ES5500 TV which has a built in satellite decoder.

My question is, is it just a matter of wiring a coax cable straight from the dish to the TV and this will give me all the free to air channels? (Assuming the dish is still in the correct position)

Thanks.

John mac

yes. should work..

Is there a coax comming from the dish at present?

alwayssideways

Thanks for the reply. There is a coax cable but i will need to extend it as its long enough. That won't be a problem...I'll try do it this evening and I'll post up how I get on.

John mac

is it this tv? http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue46es5500/sams-ue46es5500

it does NOT have a Satellite decoder built in . so wont wont get a signal from sat dish..

alwayssideways

Maybe I have the 5700 model.I'll double check. But I know it has a satellite decoder.

John mac

I also recently purchased a SAMSUNG UE46ES5500 TV

thats what i was going on ..

alwayssideways

John mac wrote: »

thats what i was going on ..

Sorry, was just the model number of the top of my head.

Anyway, i wired the satellite direct to the TV, ran the scan and got nothing.
I suppose I have two possible faults.

1: Dodgy wiring
2: Satellite position

Would the fact that it picked up no channels suggest dodgy wiring?

cjt156

Could be either.
Do you know anyone who'd let you borrow a (tuned) sat receiver to check?

zg3409

Assuming the TV is not faulty, and assuming you connected to the right connector and assuming you did the correct satellite scan then it's either a cabling or dish fault.

Check at the connectors and joiners at the bottom that the outer screen is connected and that it is not touching the centre screen. If you have extended the cable then remove the bit added and move the TV to the place before the join.

If you ring an installer they could provider a new dish and put up a new dish and cable for probably 90 Euro depending on the work involved. If the dish is old, and you are paying for someone to visit may as well get a new dish. I would run 2 cables from the dish just in case you want a dual recording box later.

alwayssideways

zg3409 wrote: »

Assuming the TV is not faulty, and assuming you connected to the right connector and assuming you did the correct satellite scan then it's either a cabling or dish fault.

Check at the connectors and joiners at the bottom that the outer screen is connected and that it is not touching the centre screen. If you have extended the cable then remove the bit added and move the TV to the place before the join.

If you ring an installer they could provider a new dish and put up a new dish and cable for probably 90 Euro depending on the work involved. If the dish is old, and you are paying for someone to visit may as well get a new dish. I would run 2 cables from the dish just in case you want a dual recording box later.

Ok, quick update.

TV is not faulty as I used it in previous house.

I split the coax to go into the standard aerial port and the satellite port. The standard aerial picks up Irish channels perfectly. (RTE 2 HD etc.) which leads me to believe that the cabling is fine however,
A scan on all satellites still gives me nothing. Would this indicate the problem lies with the dish positioning?

Cantona's Collars

alwayssideways wrote: »

Ok, quick update.

TV is not faulty as I used it in previous house.

I split the coax to go into the standard aerial port and the satellite port. The standard aerial picks up Irish channels perfectly. (RTE 2 HD etc.) which leads me to believe that the cabling is fine however,
A scan on all satellites still gives me nothing. Would this indicate the problem lies with the dish positioning?

You shouldn't have split the cable,that's your problem.You need a direct run from the dish to the sat input on the tv & a separate cable from the aerial to the aerial input for your saorview.

swoofer

this has me intrigued, could you post the exact model of the TV. And did you run the satellite cable direct from the dish yourself?

And this bit has me stumped " I split the coax cable!!! " what exactly did you do? You need 2 feeds to the tv, one is a coax feed from the aerial, ie cheaper cable. The other is satellite cable using f connectors.

gbc

swoofer

you need a walker saorview dtt box connected to an aerial not a dish or similar like normende. sit it on top of the walker but give it a bit ventilation room.

the RTE you can get on satellite is saorsat from 9east but you need a different lnb, 35 euro and you need to re-align dish, then depending where you are dish may be too small. And SOARSAT does not have TV3, 3E. To get rte via sky you pay as we all well know.

Peter Rhea

alwayssideways wrote: »

I split the coax to go into the standard aerial port and the satellite port. The standard aerial picks up Irish channels perfectly.

So you combined the satellite dish & the terrestrial aerial feeds with a satellite/terrestrial diplexer & used another at the tv end to split the signals again?

Ger Roe

alwayssideways wrote: »

Ok, quick update.

TV is not faulty as I used it in previous house.

I split the coax to go into the standard aerial port and the satellite port. The standard aerial picks up Irish channels perfectly. (RTE 2 HD etc.) which leads me to believe that the cabling is fine however,
A scan on all satellites still gives me nothing. Would this indicate the problem lies with the dish positioning?

Are you absolutely sure it is the satellite dish coax feed that you have used? Picking up RTE 2 HD free to air would indicate Saorview alright, but without a UHF antenna you would need to be in a fairly strong DTT reception area to simply use the dish feed length of coax to receive a reliable Saorview signal.

Whatever else, you should not have simply split a single coax feed between the two input connections (satellite and DTT). UHF and Satellite signals can be combined on a single coax feed, but only if the two separate inputs (antenna and dish) are combined near source, sent down a single feed and then broken back out to the two separate sources at the receiver end. There are specific combiner/breakout units required.

orwellg84

Ger Roe wrote: »

Are you absolutely sure it is the satellite dish coax feed that you have used? Picking up RTE 2 HD free to air would indicate Saorview alright, but without a UHF antenna you would need to be in a fairly strong DTT reception area to simply use the dish feed length of coax to receive a reliable Saorview signal.

Whatever else, you should not have simply split a single coax feed between the two input connections (satellite and DTT). UHF and Satellite signals can be combined on a single coax feed, but only if the two separate inputs (antenna and dish) are combined near source, sent down a single feed and then broken back out to the two separate sources at the receiver end. There are specific combiner/breakout units required.

I had a similar problem for two setups. I was able to combine and split again Sat and Saorview with one cable. The second I had to run a second cable from the dish because the existing cable was not up to the job.
I think that the Samsung is a brilliant option for the combi issue if you can afford one but I'd suggest that the problem is purely cabling.

I got the combiner/breakout units from tvtrade.ie (I have no affiliation) but they are super and have youtube demo of almost everything they sell how to install and use.

Capt'n Midnight

Try the cable directly without splitter

if that works then look at the splitter , only one connection passes power, and the LNB needs power to work, may have a red mark

Ronnie Raygun

tv whiz wrote: »

is the built in satellite reciever on your tv set for "freeview"?if this is the case it is not compatible with your satellite connection in the south of ireland.

Rubbish. Freeview is the UK terrestrial service, nothing to do with satellite reception.

The tv concerned here will work fine with practically any "satellite connection in the south of ireland".