My entitlements if hubby goes abroad

ckd

My entitlements if hubby goes abroad
Hi all,

Just looking for a bit of advice. We are thinking of emigrating to Oz but hubby is going to go first to look for a job. In the meantime myself and our 3 kids will be left behind for atleast 6 months and I was wondering if I will be entitled to any social welfare payment. I am a SAHM and my husband is on jobseekers at the moment.

Any info would be appreciated

eastbono

ckd wrote: »

My entitlements if hubby goes abroad
Hi all,

Just looking for a bit of advice. We are thinking of emigrating to Oz but hubby is going to go first to look for a job. In the meantime myself and our 3 kids will be left behind for atleast 6 months and I was wondering if I will be entitled to any social welfare payment. I am a SAHM and my husband is on jobseekers at the moment.

Any info would be appreciated

You can apply for jobseekers allowance but you have to be actively seeking full time work and if your hubby gets work in Oz then any earnings he has will be calculated against you in the means test.

You cannot apply for one parent family and you will only be geographically separated.

tony81

It's fine for young, single people to show up in oz to look for work. Your husband would be better off trying to line something up before he goes.. apply for jobs online, skype interviews, etc. Only an idiot would go abroad for 6 months with nothing lined up when he has a family to support at home.

ckd

Thanks for replies. If i can get jobseekers allowance until my husband gets sorted that would be great. I am actively seeking employment.

Tony he is trying to get a job first but if he cant he has to go anyway before our savings are gone on bills while we are both unemployed, they are going down by the week. Life is crap for us here with no job or money, we cant pay da bills let alone live a little. We really want to give this a try.

upinthesky

it would be the same as you get here so whatever you both got when he was here it would be the same with him abroad

fasttalkerchat

I'm not in a position to advise, but would it be the case that the OP and her hubby are technically separated for the purpose of means testing?

Also OP, from what you said I read it that your hubby doesn't have any working/working holiday visa. Is this correct?

upinthesky

well i just know because my partner went to work abroad and the hassle i got of the social welfare looking for his details which was hard as the country was not english speaking

we have 3 children and if he earned 400 or more over there i didnt get anything back here. Plus there was no fis so he ended up coming home

ckd

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I'm not in a position to advise, but would it be the case that the OP and her hubby are technically separated for the purpose of means testing?

Also OP, from what you said I read it that your hubby doesn't have any working/working holiday visa. Is this correct?

yes correct he doesnt have any visa yet but is going to apply for a whv then look for a sponsership while there so he can get a different visa for us to join him. we know of one family that went this way!

fasttalkerchat

ckd wrote: »

yes correct he doesnt have any visa yet but is going to apply for a whv then look for a sponsership while there so he can get a different visa for us to join him. we know of one family that went this way!

He can't apply while already in the country... well not unless he gets you to do it for him.
I think he is taking a big risk because he could get all of you deported and come home with totally nothing unless he plans this right.

ckd

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

ckd wrote: »

yes correct he doesnt have any visa yet but is going to apply for a whv then look for a sponsership while there so he can get a different visa for us to join him. we know of one family that went this way!

He can't apply while already in the country... well not unless he gets you to do it for him.
I think he is taking a big risk because he could get all of you deported and come home with totally nothing unless he plans this right.

no he is going to apply for the visa here and wont go to oz until he gets it.

eastbono

fasttalkerchat wrote: »

I'm not in a position to advise, but would it be the case that the OP and her hubby are technically separated for the purpose of means testing?

Also OP, from what you said I read it that your hubby doesn't have any working/working holiday visa. Is this correct?

They would not be separated so therefore any earnings he would have in Oz would have to be declared and assessed as means.

eastbono

lisar816 wrote: »

well i just know because my partner went to work abroad and the hassle i got of the social welfare looking for his details which was hard as the country was not english speaking

we have 3 children and if he earned 400 or more over there i didnt get anything back here. Plus there was no fis so he ended up coming home

I did the calculations on this and if you had applied for jsa and partner was earning €400 abroad then you would have got a payment of €198 pw.
He couldnt apply for FIS as he was not working in the country.

upinthesky

eastbono wrote: »

I did the calculations on this and if you had applied for jsa and partner was earning €400 abroad then you would have got a payment of €198 pw.
He couldnt apply for FIS as he was not working in the country.

not possible as my partner had a job with pay of 320 euro last year and i got jsa of only 150 unless they assessed me wrong?
that was a job here in ireland we also got 139 euro fis

eastbono

lisar816 wrote: »

not possible as my partner had a job with pay of 320 euro last year and i got jsa of only 150 unless they assessed me wrong?
that was a job here in ireland we also got 139 euro fis

Last year they did not assess you incorrectly as your partner was also in receipt of fis so you would have lost the adult dependent and only got half rate child dependent rate but the means from his earnings would be halved. If he was not in receipt of FIS you would have received more on jsa but as a family unit you would have been given the best possible outcome.

If he was living abroad and had earnings of €400 gross (as gross less prsi is the figure assessed not net) then you would have received the amount on jsa that I already stated in my previous post.

upinthesky

eastbono wrote: »

Last year they did not assess you incorrectly as your partner was also in receipt of fis so you would have lost the adult dependent and only got half rate child dependent rate but the means from his earnings would be halved. If he was not in receipt of FIS you would have received more on jsa but as a family unit you would have been given the best possible outcome.

If he was living abroad and had earnings of €400 gross (as gross less prsi is the figure assessed not net) then you would have received the amount on jsa that I already stated in my previous post.

i didn't know that at all but if he earned over the 400 i would have got nothing am i right? so fis is classed as a social welfare payment thanks for that i will know for the future

eastbono

lisar816 wrote: »

i didn't know that at all but if he earned over the 400 i would have got nothing am i right? so fis is classed as a social welfare payment thanks for that i will know for the future

How means for jsa is calculated you would have a starting point of €402.20 that is personal rate, ada and cda x3. From his gross earnings less prsi, union deductions etc if he is working 3 days or more €60 is taken from this figure. Then 60% of this remaining figure is taken from the starting figure of €402.20 and the result of this is what you would receive on jsa. If you have savings etc >€20,000 this is also calculated as means or an extra home other than your ppr.