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what is the stanley oisin stove like?

  • 25-09-2012 7:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭


    hubbie and me planning to put in a solid fuel stove- no radiators to be fed off it ...just need to heat the room.it is 15ftx16ft,,,works out a 5 kilowatt...looking at the stanley solid fuel oision online.... any idea is this a good stove? good heat/ also any idea of price for the stanley oisin stove? thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,074 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    I have one burning away behind me. It's a nice little unit, no problems except the back-brick broke and crumbled after 2 years (from over enthusiastic log-launching), but it was only ~€13 to replace. The side-bricks are only €9, but I haven't broken one yet. I only burn wood so the grate isn't showing any signs of wear.

    It's easy to get a complete burn - leaving only white-ash, so it's efficient - but don't burn it too rich as it doesn't have an after-burn facility like some of the larger stoves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Jogathon


    Ah, just had a lovely evening sitting down beside my parents' Óisín. Love it. So fuel efficient. But it's not set up to heat anything except the room. They had to flue all the way up the chimney after about a year of use so my advice would be to flue all the way up at the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭wayoutwest


    The Stanley Oisin can be got for just under 500euro[cast finish] and just under 1000 [enamel].....a lot more money than [some] other makes, but quality made. You can also get any spare parts locally or ordered locally from builders' store eg; set of firebricks - about 50 euro.
    The firebox is'nt that big, and becuse of that,I found it best ran on coal -with the occasional small log thrown in.
    The enamelled ones look fantastic, but they can get chipped -the step,caused by the thickness of the enamel -can't properly be rectified.....but, if you are carefull, then they are less maintainance than the cast ones [they don'i have to be blacked once a year].


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    Ordered one last week (cream enamel) from heiton buckleys, will be delivered first week of October!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭TopTec


    I bought 2 when they were on sale locally last year for 399. There are very efficient and easy to use but the ash pan is a bit small.

    The biggest bind for me is if you dont have it working to its maximum then the glass is easily covered in smoke tar. A hot burn will sometimes shift some of it but it does need regular cleaning.

    I only use wood that has 15% moisture to keep the flue and glass as clean as possible and use a combination of wood, turf and occasionally polish coal.

    In a room the size you are looking at it will easily heat that.

    I have read that it is now made in China and assembled in ireland.... don't know if that is true though.

    TT


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You will pick up a Stanley cheaper in a builders providers than in a fireplace shop.

    Just have a look around.

    A builders providers will probably sell it to you at just above trade price,so they get a sale and you get a savings too.

    Regards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    TopTec wrote: »
    I bought 2 when they were on sale locally last year for 399. There are very efficient and easy to use but the ash pan is a bit small.

    The biggest bind for me is if you dont have it working to its maximum then the glass is easily covered in smoke tar. A hot burn will sometimes shift some of it but it does need regular cleaning.

    I only use wood that has 15% moisture to keep the flue and glass as clean as possible and use a combination of wood, turf and occasionally polish coal.

    In a room the size you are looking at it will easily heat that.

    I have read that it is now made in China and assembled in ireland.... don't know if that is true though.

    TT

    Exactly as Toptec said.

    If you feed it with any decent amount of fuel, you won't be able to stay in that room with the door closed!

    The only drawbacks to them are 1. the small firebox is small and if you're using turf or logs, you need to have them sized accordingly and 2. the glass is inclined to blacken unless you allow a fair bit of air through.

    They are a very good value stove and I don't know of anyone that isn't happy with theirs!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Sure a few briquettes and you will be flying along

    I burn briquettes,turf and logs in my Stovax.



    Whats its like burning coal in a stove though?

    Does it mess up the stove much?.

    Any particular type coal thats is best to use?

    Thanks.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭jack of all


    I've had one for a few years and find it great; once it gets going you'll find it heats the room in no time and I find it very economical on fuel. From my own experience (and plenty of research) I wouldn't recommend reducing the air supply too much when the stove is running as reduced airflow may increase smoke and tar which will dirty the glass and your chimney liner, especially if burning timber. I generally keep the air supply 3/4 to fully open and certainly never less than 1/2 open- I never have to scrape the glass, maybe once a week I might give it a wipe with a wet rag. I burn a combination of scrap building timber, hardwood logs (well seasoned and split), briquettes and ecobrite. I never use smokey coal, tried it once but had problems with smoke and soot. Fire backs, grates and rope seals will need replacing from time to time but there are not overly expensive. I'd never go back to an open fire, stoves are the only way to go in terms of efficiency, running cost and cleaning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭lennyloulou


    thanks for info... am between cream oisin and a enamel mulberry or matt stanley oscar for that extra heat output (we have an old house- was advised to consider the next size up from the oisin),,, do you mind me asking Jameshayes how much did you pay for your cream one please?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭lledlledlled


    thanks for info... am between cream oisin and a enamel mulberry or matt stanley oscar for that extra heat output (we have an old house- was advised to consider the next size up from the oisin),,, do you mind me asking Jameshayes how much did you pay for your cream one please?

    Hi,

    Did you install an Oisin in the end?

    Considering getting one myself. I've a 2-up/2-down terraced house and we put on our 30 year old gas central heating any time we want heat. Apart from the inefficiency of the boiler, we only really need the sitting room heated (this may change if/when kids come along so might keep the gas if we can) and we seldom use the hot water that the boiler heats when we switch heating on.

    Do you think the Oisin would suit us?
    Can it be installed close to the existing gas boiler or it this a hazard?
    What are the approximate installation costs?

    I'm a bit concerned about the small firebox, as I intend using mostly wood. Are there any similar quality stoves with larger fireboxes?

    Thanks.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Regarding comments on blackened glass, we close off our stove late at night to keep the rads ticking over so blackens a lot, easiest way to keep the glass clean is to dip some slightly dampened balled newspaper into the ashes and the glass will come up a treat in no time with a few wipes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    slave1 wrote: »
    Regarding comments on blackened glass, we close off our stove late at night to keep the rads ticking over so blackens a lot, easiest way to keep the glass clean is to dip some slightly dampened balled newspaper into the ashes and the glass will come up a treat in no time with a few wipes.
    That's only good advice if you burn only wood.
    You cannot do this with the ashes from coal or peat.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,482 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I've been doing it with coal ashes for years, glass is still perfect, not a scratch and crystal clear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    If you know anyone going to the plooughing championships, Stanley do a great deal, pay €100 and get a voucher for €200 off an Oisin stove. This deal was done over the last 2 years.

    Now, like Paddy I must post a pic of my bag of coal :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 briforr


    HI
    For cleaning the glass I use baby wipes then dry with kitchen roll when cold and they are very effective. Once this is regularly done I find it easy to keep clean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭North West


    Hi Lennyloulou
    Bought Oisin today for a client. They are a mighty wee stove for the size of them. I bought a non boiler matt black just for room heat, € 449 inc vat, (Heitons)Installing it Friday. The room max output is 6.4Kw. This is the second one my client put in.
    NW


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Sure a few briquettes and you will be flying along

    I burn briquettes,turf and logs in my Stovax.



    Whats its like burning coal in a stove though?

    Does it mess up the stove much?.

    Any particular type coal thats is best to use?

    Thanks.:)

    Smokeless stove coal (nuts) only

    Ordinary house coal would be a disaster and ruin the stove and the flue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭monkeynuz


    The best thing for cleaning the stove glass is dry newspaper or a damp cloth dipped in wood ash only and rubbed on the polished off with a dry cloth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 Sunrise250


    Tips for using Oisin from my experience:

    It has very small ash pan - not suitable for turf only. Do not mix turf and coal as the pan will fill with turf ash soon and the coal will burn out the (unventilated) grate.

    Not suitable for a cold old house unless it's for one room. For a cold house get something bigger. Great for insulated house.

    Clean chimney once a year (at least). Falling soot can accumulate around top or back of stove and as this burns at severely high temperatures can burn out the top baffle and maybe do even worse damage.

    The back brick needs changing about every 2 -3 years. If let go the rear of the cast iron stove is in danger of damage.

    Clean the top baffle every two months. (Remove gate bars, one side of fire bricks and lower out.) This will prevent the top baffle from accumulating soot and burning out and warping. Replace both top protection baffles properly in notches.

    As with any stove installation test to make sure it is airtight into the chimney. Very important as warmed air will be sucked away and it can weaken the draught or leak CO especially on a calm frosty night.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 The Hurricane


    I have a Stanley Oisin and burn Ecobrite made in Ireland by Arigna fuels in it its very clean throws out great heat and does not dirty the glass like traditional smoky coal. I heat a room 19x17 with a conservatory off it which can be heated off the stove nicely as well. Would agree it needs to be flued properly from day 1 to get maximum efficiency. My dad Oisin heats a room 22 x20 and it works fine too heats a big room no problem. Both these Oisins are non boiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Whacker paddy


    I have the next size up from the Oisin (the Oscar), approx 7kw. Very efficient stove I burn timber, cosyglo coal and turf. Bigger grate than the Oisin but only comes in Matt finish- retails in heiton Buckley for approx €620. My brother has the Oisin but finds grate a bit small but that's his only complaint. Problem with small grate is if you buy a load of timber you may have to chop them smaller yourself! Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    North West wrote: »
    Hi Lennyloulou
    Bought Oisin today for a client. They are a mighty wee stove for the size of them. I bought a non boiler matt black just for room heat, € 449 inc vat, (Heitons)Installing it Friday. The room max output is 6.4Kw. This is the second one my client put in.
    NW

    Roughly how much are installation costs including flue liner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭TopTec


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    Roughly how much are installation costs including flue liner?

    Re-fitted my Oisin in my lounge of my cottage 3 weeks ago. Single storey stone chimney needed relining. The materials were;

    5m of flexible liner - 152 euro
    2 x 45 degree steel bends - 39 euro,
    1 x 250mm steel pipe - 15 euro,
    flue adapter - 32 euro,
    4 bags of vermiculite - 68 euro
    Chimney cowl - 36 euro.
    High heat fire resistant mortar - 5 euro.

    Total of 355 euro including Vat

    I had a fella in for 1/2 day to help (60 euro), He also made me the plate that fits in the bottom of the chimney above the adapter. I think some refer to it as a register plate. As my chimney was stone the plate had to be made to fit.

    Obviously labour costs depend on where you are and how complex the installation is. Mine was pretty standard apart from the vermiculite as my chimney was very broad and took more than normal.

    Hope this helps.

    TT


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