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Homophobia in Music

  • 25-09-2012 10:12am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭


    anyone experience it? like the sports suituation, music can sometimes be a bit of a cock parade, minus the group showers. Bands, choirs, orchestras. etc.


    I'll be joining a huge male voice choir this week for a look see, (there to play, not to gay) and these men will be old timers, so if I'm ever going to find residual levels of homosexisism it's going to be there.

    A brilliant Irony being I met the choirs' accompianist at the Gay disco I attended a few days ago. Stick that in you're funny-side-of-not-being-straight thread and thank it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    anyone experience it? like the sports suituation, music can sometimes be a bit of a cock parade, minus the group showers. Bands, choirs, orchestras. etc.


    I'll be joining a huge male voice choir this week for a look see, (there to play, not to gay) and these men will be old timers, so if I'm ever going to find residual levels of homosexisism it's going to be there.

    A brilliant Irony being I met the choirs' accompianist at the Gay disco I attended a few days ago. Stick that in you're funny-side-of-not-being-straight thread and thank it.

    In all fairness, you're far less likely to experience homophobia in an all male choir than in a hip hop band!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    You're probably more likely to find old bachelors who never came out than homophobia.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg



    In all fairness, you're far less likely to experience homophobia in an all male choir than in a hip hop band!!!

    Tell that to Odd Future Wolf Gang Kill Them All.

    They've been boycotted and had shows pulled for alleged homophobia, yet have two of the first openly LGBT members in a mainstream hip-hop collective - Syd the Kid who is lesbian, and Frank Ocean who is (probably) bisexual.*

    I came across a good article yesterday about gay hip-hop artists which ill post when I get home if I think about it.

    And yea, can't exactly see the choir being a bastion of homophobia. If anything I would have thought it would have a higher than average gay membership, no?



    *He's never said what he his but acknowledged his first love was a man and sings about both genders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    The music scene (along with the acting scene) are probably two of the most open and accepting scenes out there. Sure, there will be bigots and homophobes everywhere, but when you think of all the people in the music business who were/are gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender (these are just off the top of my head, and there are loads more, I'm sure):

    -Freddie Mercury (absolute legend)
    -Reginald Dwight, aka Sir Elton John (another absolute legend)
    -Billie Joe Armstrong (allegedly bisexual; he claimed it himself)
    -Mark Free/Marcie Free (lead singer of King Kobra; had gender reassingnment surgery not too long ago)
    -Brian Molko (the lead singer from Placebo)
    -Lady Gaga (allegedly)
    -Rob Halford (absolute legend lead singer of Judas Priest; nicknamed The Metal God)

    I think Halford's is arguably the most stand out one; heavy metal is incredibly "laddish" and is seen as a "man's" music. This is despite the fact that the whole image of the scene is steeped in sexual ambiguity (long hair, leather, make-up, etc.). It is really supposed to be one of the last bastions of red-blooded, heterosexual masculinity. The shock and disbelief that greeted the coming out of one of the most well known and legendary members of the Heavy Metal community in the 1990's was brilliant as when you looked closely, it seemed so obvious for so long.

    Even so, the music scene will be a lot more liberal than most. I wouldn't worry terribly about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sir Pompous Righteousness


    anyone experience it? like the sports suituation, music can sometimes be a bit of a cock parade, minus the group showers. Bands, choirs, orchestras. etc.


    I'll be joining a huge male voice choir this week for a look see, (there to play, not to gay) and these men will be old timers, so if I'm ever going to find residual levels of homosexisism it's going to be there.

    A brilliant Irony being I met the choirs' accompianist at the Gay disco I attended a few days ago. Stick that in you're funny-side-of-not-being-straight thread and thank it.

    I can guarantee you, from having experience with male voice choirs and knowing a few people who are members of them, that you'll have no shortage of gay people in them. So I think that any homophobia would be minimal at best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Aurongroove


    well then, maybe I'll be able to play and to gay both at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    DazMarz wrote: »
    The music scene (along with the acting scene) are probably two of the most open and accepting scenes out there. Sure, there will be bigots and homophobes everywhere, but when you think of all the people in the music business who were/are gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgender (these are just off the top of my head, and there are loads more, I'm sure):

    -Freddie Mercury (absolute legend)
    -Reginald Dwight, aka Sir Elton John (another absolute legend)
    -Billie Joe Armstrong (allegedly bisexual; he claimed it himself)
    -Mark Free/Marcie Free (lead singer of King Kobra; had gender reassingnment surgery not too long ago)
    -Brian Molko (the lead singer from Placebo)
    -Lady Gaga (allegedly)
    -Rob Halford (absolute legend lead singer of Judas Priest; nicknamed The Metal God)

    I think Halford's is arguably the most stand out one; heavy metal is incredibly "laddish" and is seen as a "man's" music. This is despite the fact that the whole image of the scene is steeped in sexual ambiguity (long hair, leather, make-up, etc.). It is really supposed to be one of the last bastions of red-blooded, heterosexual masculinity. The shock and disbelief that greeted the coming out of one of the most well known and legendary members of the Heavy Metal community in the 1990's was brilliant as when you looked closely, it seemed so obvious for so long.

    Even so, the music scene will be a lot more liberal than most. I wouldn't worry terribly about it.


    Brian Molko isn't gay, the.bass.player is

    Molko may be bisexual though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    Sin City wrote: »
    Brian Molko isn't gay, the.bass.player is

    Molko may be bisexual though

    Meant to clarify that as I did with others. Molko is bisexual, so he says.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭Caiseoipe19


    While not gay himself, this guy recently released this song against homophobia. He has a gay uncle. Good song and lyrics. He has some great songs in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    goldfrapp is a lesbian. a deadly one too. and beth ditto from the gossip.

    have you never seen that episode of will and grace where matt damon guest stars as a straight guy who pretends he's gay so he doesn't get automatically overlooked for a part in an all male choir simply cuz he's straight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭floggg


    The article I referred to earlier about gay hip-hoppers is here:

    http://www.details.com/celebrities-entertainment/music-and-books/201210/hip-hop-queer-pioneers

    I'm a big fan of hip-hop, though wasn't actually too gone on any of the artists referred to here that i checked out.

    Here's a great rap song and video by Murs about a gay love story gone wrong which you should also check out:



    Murs himself plays Roderick. Pretty big move for a straight rapper.


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