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What's type of pump do I need.

  • 24-09-2012 8:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is in the right forum but I have a simple enough question if anyone can answer it.
    Due to our crappy summer part of my patio is collecting water and it has nowhere to go.
    I've decided I have to get a pump so I can pump the water back up to my rain water gully. I don't think I need a submersible pump as the water is shallow enough. Can I get a pump that has a garden hose connection to suck up the water ? Hope this makes sense and if so how much would they be and where would I get one.
    Thanks in advance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Find the lowest point. Install a drain and connect it to your storm drain - assuming you have enough fall to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    How deep is the water? The mouthpiece of the hose should be submerged.
    Maybe a few pics would help.

    Or just get a good wide brush or swimming pool squeegee and push it away?
    Again pics would help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭hawkelady


    Hi , can't connect to storm drain as the fall is too steep and there is a big deck between the water and gully which I don't want to take up the deck .
    The water is about 4 or 5 inches deep and I can't push it away as all gardens around me are slightly higher.
    Is there a pump I can get to take this water away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭freddyuk


    Maybe all you need is this
    http://www.tesco.com/direct/drill-powered-water-pump/381-9435.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=381-9435&sc_cmp=ppc_g__&gclid=COOT24uXz7ICFcUPfAod9TEABQ

    It works off a simple battery drill (not mains). It may be enough to clear the water if it is small amount. I would not recommend for any real heavy pumping work.
    A more expensive option is a bilge pump which works off 12 volts and will clear quickly depending on the volume and size of pump. Check out RULE PUMPS. A simple 12 volt battery and the pump with 3/4" hose attached will do the job down to the last drop.
    If you need advice on the kit let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Nope that tesco pump wont do. I cannot see pictures but i imagine the scenario is the common one.

    Lidl do a submeresable pump every so often but to be honest it needs water and yours in not deep enough. You will have to lift a tile and stick some sort of a tank under it. Even a bucket with holes. Then the water will go between the gaps and into the bucket. Here a sump pump can then pump it back up.

    To be really honest this is a bad bad fix. Better to raise the height of the patio or lower the dept of the drain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭freddyuk


    Nope that tesco pump wont do. I cannot see pictures but i imagine the scenario is the common one.

    Lidl do a submeresable pump every so often but to be honest it needs water and yours in not deep enough. You will have to lift a tile and stick some sort of a tank under it. Even a bucket with holes. Then the water will go between the gaps and into the bucket. Here a sump pump can then pump it back up.

    To be really honest this is a bad bad fix. Better to raise the height of the patio or lower the dept of the drain.

    The OP made it clear she did not have the option to make hard landscaping changes so she asked for an option to pump any collected water away. A 12 volt bilge pump in "4-5 inches" of water will be extremely effective, quick, reasonably cheap and safe to do the job.It will take all the water down to the last few millimeters which can then be brushed away.Of course it's not the best cure but it is an effective option; take it or leave it. If you own a boat you will know how a bilge pump will drain a bilge "dry". The strainer can be detached easily in case leaves or debris block the holes. I could be wrong but I doubt she will be burying a bucket in her patio which will collect muck so blocking any pump in seconds and be a trip hazard. Use one of these and the water is gone in a couple of minutes.
    pumps.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    hawkelady wrote: »
    Can I get a pump that has a garden hose connection to suck up the water ?

    You've probably seen one somewhere before - a little eductor pump on the end of a hose ? ( see attached pic ) - neat,no moving parts etc

    The bilge pumps above would be quicker though - you'd be limited by the power of your garden tap with the eductors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭freddyuk


    If we get on water meters you will not want to use this system! Also you will need to hold the suction end at all times in the lowest part of the puddle. A bilge pump can be put in the deepest point and left to pump it all away. You will need a length of 3/4 inch hose to your point of drainage. A normal garden hose is only 1/2 inch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    freddyuk wrote: »
    The OP made it clear she did not have the option to make hard landscaping changes so she asked for an option to pump any collected water away. A 12 volt bilge pump in "4-5 inches" of water will be extremely effective, quick, reasonably cheap and safe to do the job.It will take all the water down to the last few millimeters which can then be brushed away.Of course it's not the best cure but it is an effective option; take it or leave it. If you own a boat you will know how a bilge pump will drain a bilge "dry". The strainer can be detached easily in case leaves or debris block the holes. I could be wrong but I doubt she will be burying a bucket in her patio which will collect muck so blocking any pump in seconds and be a trip hazard. Use one of these and the water is gone in a couple of minutes.
    pumps.png

    What i suggest is not hard landscapeing changes with the pump but sometimes we dont want to here what we need to do and what you suggested was not a bilge pump.. I am missing your point


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