Small diesel for under 10,000

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 1:18pm #1

Hi Guys,
Thw sis in laws car has given up the ghost so she is in the market.She has 10 grand to spend.It has to be diesel and 2008 and above,low milage,good spec.
I was thinking kia ceed,toyota auris,fiesta.
Any feedback welcome
Thanks,

Nissan doctor · 24-09-2012 2:55pm

The first question everyone here will ask is what's her annual mileage and type of usage.

This will dictate if she actually needs a diesel or is being blinded by the lower tax.

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 3:10pm

Thanks for the reply.
She does about 25000+ a year so i reckon that she will need a diesel.d say she would take up to focus size too so that might give more options.

bazz26 · 24-09-2012 3:56pm

Hyundai i30:
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http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Hyundai/i30/130-CRDI/29613454547578190/

Bpmull · 24-09-2012 4:03pm

Have a Look at the Opel Astra 1.7 or 1.3 cdti. There a good car. 1.7 preferably as its a little more powerful. Although I have a 1.3 and it's only slow to take off other than that the engine is more than adequate and I mainly do motorway driving. You can get a high enough spec one and they are all 6 speed gearboxes. Nothing major ever seems to go wrong with them only stupid small things like alternators and air pipes. worth aloof anyway.

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 6:08pm

Thanks for the replies lads.I like the hyundi alright,i think one of the lads from here got one in england for their mam.I think the engine is fairly bulletproof and easier maintained than the psa 1.6 unit.
Off topic,
Friend of mine went into a garage today and was talking ot the owner about engine oil.So anyway my friend said his cars oil light comes on and off snd the owner said lets take a look.They go outside the garage man takes out dipstick plenty of oil in there then looks at the oil and tells my friend that the wrong oil is in there.He said thats whats wrong and that citroen oil goes in citroen cars,BMW in BMW cars.ford oil in fords and so on.Now my friend does not know much about cars to be honest but left and rang me to see what i thought.I told him it was s**te and if that was the case all the indys would be closed down.Also why does it say in owners manuals what vesocity oil to use if this was the case.
Hows that for a good one!!!!!

colm_mcm · 24-09-2012 6:22pm

I was the one that got the i30 from the UK. still going A1.

Worth noting that the i30 there is a UK import, and the equivelant Irish deluxe model has better spec (Climate control for starters)

The one we got was a 116hp premium model. Worth finding a 116 version, but the 90hp is decent enough too.

Also, the spec on the facelift Premium model isn't as generous, they lost the full leather.

That said, the 17's on the Premium are a bit harder on the road than the 16s, an Irish spec deluxe would be nice, but the car bazz listed is def worth a look.

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 6:36pm

Thanks Colm,
Had a bit of a look and came across this http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Hyundai/i30/1.6-CRDi/29613480716364890/
I know its over budjet but maybe with a bit of haggling might get it down a bit.

colm_mcm · 24-09-2012 6:41pm

That's a tad pricey I think. Want be knocking over €1500 off it.

Bear in mind a lot of 08 Irish models only had 3 year warranty

colm_mcm · 24-09-2012 6:49pm

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201238485282177/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/engine-size-cars/1-4l_to_1-6l/price-to/6000/body-type/hatchback/fuel-type/diesel/model/i30/make/hyundai/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/bt39jp/page/1/keywords/premium/radius/1500?logcode=p

08 premium 116 with 40k
£5250 = €6585
VRT = €1237. (Gone up since!)
Total = €7822
Travel €400

Total €8222

Get an aa check or similar. A years manufacturers warranty left

Send me the 3 grand I saved you. I need a new 3 piece suite, ta.

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 6:52pm

Never thought of the 3 year warranty.Will keep looking not alot of the deluxe on carzone!!!

CiniO · 24-09-2012 7:07pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201238485282177/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/engine-size-cars/1-4l_to_1-6l/price-to/6000/body-type/hatchback/fuel-type/diesel/model/i30/make/hyundai/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/bt39jp/page/1/keywords/premium/radius/1500?logcode=p

08 premium 116 with 40k
£5250 = €6585
VRT = €1237. (Gone up since!)
Total = €7822
Travel €400

Total €8222

Get an aa check or similar. A years manufacturers warranty left

Send me the 3 grand I saved you. I need a new 3 piece suite, ta.

I was recently thinking about swapping my 04 mazda 6 2.0 petrol for 08 i30 1.6crdi estate.

Fuel costs on my Mazda are quite high as my average fuel consumption is at 8.5 l/100km (33MPG), and tax is 660 at the moment.

But after making calculations, I couldn't make this swap worth.
What I'd save on fuel and tax, I would have to spend on car finance repayments for hyundai.
So considering I'd stay the same financially, why would I want to have 08 hyundai i30 1.6 which would be less comfortable, and much slower than my mazda...
So for the moment, I'm keeping my mazda. But I might try thinking about that swap again next year..

PS - Does i30 premium have ESP and cruise control?

colm_mcm · 24-09-2012 7:21pm

All the premium models have ESP, but only the 2.0 diesel has cruise, it's not on the 1.6.

Quick run through, the premium models have:

Tyre pressure monitors
ESP and traction
Front side and curtain bags
Rear parking sensors
17 inch wheels with chrome inserts
Front fog lights
Auto lights
Auto wipers
Colour coded handles and mirrors
Alarm, deadlocks, 1 fake vw flip key
Full leather
Heated front seats
Leather wheel with radio controls
Climate control
Heated mirrors
Auto folding mirrors
4 elec windows

CiniO · 24-09-2012 7:29pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

All the premium models have ESP, but only the 2.0 diesel has cruise, it's not on the 1.6.

But 2.0 CRDI was never available in i30 estate. As well, with that category it's probably better to choose fiat bravo 2.0 multijet with 165 BHP, 0-62 in 8.5 seconds, better MPG than 2.0 CRDI i30, and lower CO2 band (139 bravo vs 145 i30).

Redriddick · 24-09-2012 7:59pm

Thanks again Colm,will have to chat her bout going across the pond.
Thanks a mil

George Dalton · 24-09-2012 8:47pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201238485282177/sort/default/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_4_years_old/engine-size-cars/1-4l_to_1-6l/price-to/6000/body-type/hatchback/fuel-type/diesel/model/i30/make/hyundai/onesearchad/used/onesearchad/nearlynew/onesearchad/new/postcode/bt39jp/page/1/keywords/premium/radius/1500?logcode=p

08 premium 116 with 40k
£5250 = €6585
VRT = €1237. (Gone up since!)
Total = €7822
Travel €400

Total €8222

Get an aa check or similar. A years manufacturers warranty left

Send me the 3 grand I saved you. I need a new 3 piece suite, ta.

I thought this sounded suspiciously cheap so I did an Autotrader search.

Turns out the next cheapest similar spec and mileage example is £1400 more expensive than the one you linked to so it's not as clear cut as you make it out to be.

colm_mcm · 24-09-2012 8:56pm

George Dalton wrote: »

I thought this sounded suspiciously cheap so I did an Autotrader search.

Turns out the next cheapest similar spec and mileage example is £1400 more expensive than the one you linked to so it's not as clear cut as you make it out to be.

Thing is, there aren't that many in that spec around, so it's not easy to compare. I know what we paid for an identical one from a garage.

meoklmrk91 · 24-09-2012 9:12pm

If it was me I would get a grande Punto, great looking car, 1.3 diesel engine is well tested at this stage, plus you will have plenty of change left over from any post 08 to go towards tax, maintinance, insurance, diesel etc. for years to come?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3929998

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3897485

CiniO · 24-09-2012 9:15pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

All the premium models have ESP, but only the 2.0 diesel has cruise, it's not on the 1.6.

Quick run through, the premium models have:

Tyre pressure monitors
ESP and traction
Front side and curtain bags
Rear parking sensors
17 inch wheels with chrome inserts
Front fog lights
Auto lights
Auto wipers
Colour coded handles and mirrors
Alarm, deadlocks, 1 fake vw flip key
Full leather
Heated front seats
Leather wheel with radio controls
Climate control
Heated mirrors
Auto folding mirrors
4 elec windows

That actually looks quite impressing considering it's compact-size car.

CiniO · 24-09-2012 9:16pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

If it was me I would get a grande Punto, great looking car, 1.3 diesel engine is well tested at this stage, plus you will have plenty of change left over from any post 08 to go towards tax, maintinance, insurance, diesel etc. for years to come?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3929998

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3897485

But punto is way smaller than other cars proposed in this thread.

Bpmull · 24-09-2012 9:48pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

If it was me I would get a grande Punto, great looking car, 1.3 diesel engine is well tested at this stage, plus you will have plenty of change left over from any post 08 to go towards tax, maintinance, insurance, diesel etc. for years to come?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3929998

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3897485

I would not touch a punto with that engine gearbox combination for two reasons. The 1.3 engine is only 75 bhp and only has a 5 speed gearbox. My Astra has the 1.3 fiat engine but is 90 bhp and has a 6 speed gearbox. I wouldn't buy a 1.3 5 speed as it would just be painful on motorways. The Astra is only a little over 2000 revs at 120kph in 6 gear which makes it alot better than the fiat 75bhp which would also be slower obviously. I'm shocked fiat didnt put a 6 speed gearbox in it in the first place it really helps these small engines I think.

meoklmrk91 · 24-09-2012 10:28pm

Bpmull wrote: »

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

If it was me I would get a grande Punto, great looking car, 1.3 diesel engine is well tested at this stage, plus you will have plenty of change left over from any post 08 to go towards tax, maintinance, insurance, diesel etc. for years to come?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3929998

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3897485

I would not touch a punto with that engine gearbox combination for two reasons. The 1.3 engine is only 75 bhp and only has a 5 speed gearbox. My Astra has the 1.3 fiat engine but is 90 bhp and has a 6 speed gearbox. I wouldn't buy a 1.3 5 speed as it would just be painful on motorways. The Astra is only a little over 2000 revs at 120kph in 6 gear which makes it alot better than the fiat 75bhp which would also be slower obviously. I'm shocked fiat didnt put a 6 speed gearbox in it in the first place it really helps these small engines I think.

6 speed gearbox in the 90bhp version, obviously a much better choice just throwing up a few examples.

meoklmrk91 · 24-09-2012 10:30pm

CiniO wrote: »

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

If it was me I would get a grande Punto, great looking car, 1.3 diesel engine is well tested at this stage, plus you will have plenty of change left over from any post 08 to go towards tax, maintinance, insurance, diesel etc. for years to come?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3929998

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3897485

But punto is way smaller than other cars proposed in this thread.

The OP said cee'd, Auris, fiesta, I would consider the punto to be pretty much in the same class as these.

166man · 24-09-2012 11:09pm

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

The OP said cee'd, Auris, fiesta, I would consider the punto to be pretty much in the same class as these.

Fiesta and Punto would be in the same category, but the Arse and Ceed would be in a different higher category I'd have thought.

CiniO · 24-09-2012 11:35pm

Bpmull wrote: »

I would not touch a punto with that engine gearbox combination for two reasons. The 1.3 engine is only 75 bhp and only has a 5 speed gearbox. My Astra has the 1.3 fiat engine but is 90 bhp and has a 6 speed gearbox. I wouldn't buy a 1.3 5 speed as it would just be painful on motorways. The Astra is only a little over 2000 revs at 120kph in 6 gear which makes it alot better than the fiat 75bhp which would also be slower obviously. I'm shocked fiat didnt put a 6 speed gearbox in it in the first place it really helps these small engines I think.

I can't really see what's your point here.
Punto does 0-62mph in 13.2 seconds, while astra in 12.8. That's nearly the same figure.
Punto top speed is 103MPH while astra 107MPH. Again very little difference.
And in the end, punto does 62MPG while astra does 57.
Punto CO2 emissions at 119g/km while astra 130.

So generally speaking, astra is bit bigger and probably bit more comfortable. It's a tiny bit faster, but then is tiny bit less economicial, and goes into higer tax class.

But in general, you point about awful combination of 1.3 multijet + 5 speed gearbox doesn't make too much sense here.

PS - All data from parkers.co.uk

Small diesel for under 10,000

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