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Land Registry Map

  • 21-09-2012 9:06am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭


    Hi

    Could posters please advice on preparing land registry Map for house sale. I have been ask by solicitor to prepare map. I checked with osi and I buy the map of them and mark out site area in red.

    Can you advice on steps. I've ask Solicitor to forward existing map. House is in small village. Any advice appreciated.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Sorry to ask this question but are you qualified to survey and mark the boundaries on the map, calculate the area and have insurance to cover you in the event of something going wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    muffler wrote: »
    Sorry to ask this question but are you qualified to survey and mark the boundaries on the map, calculate the area and have insurance to cover you in the event of something going wrong?


    Does it matter? The lines indicated on the land registy map are not legal boundaries. Only important thing is the area, which should be availble from the last sale of the property, even if it was registry of deeds.

    What could the consequences be? Seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Does it matter?
    yes, of course it does.

    The lines indicated on the land registy map are not legal boundaries.
    The OP asked about getting the boundaries marked on a map which is a completely different scenario. You need to check the Land registry's mapping requirements.

    Only important thing is the area,
    Really? But see above.

    which should be availble from the last sale of the property,

    even if it was registry of deeds.
    And if the property hasn't been sold before?

    What could the consequences be? Seriously
    If its not done correctly a person can be sued, convicted, liable for any amount of damages, their already hefty PI insurance premiums quadrupled and possibly loose their good reputation which has obvious knock on effects.

    But feel free to carry on if you wanted to chance it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭Supertech


    harry21 wrote: »
    Does it matter? The lines indicated on the land registy map are not legal boundaries.

    Had a case this year where the 'lines indicated on the map' didn't match the 'lines' on the ground, and despite best efforts to resolve the issue, a sale fell through. If that wasn't bad enough, the original prospective purchaser came back 6 months after walking away, and purchased the property for €25,000 less than their original offer price which they had also hammered down from the original asking price by €25K.

    The 'lines on the map' are often way more important than you'd think, and can have greater consequences than just having to have a map amended.

    Also the comment about the area being the important thing is plain wrong. The area is no more nor no less important than the red outline, as neither is checked or guaranteed by the Land Registry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    Muffler - OP asked about land registry maps. I just said land reg maps are not legal boundaries. Its written all over them.

    WhenI said area I meant a calculated area with dimensions shown. Most peolple can use a tape, and the most experienced professionalwill still have to ask and depend on the homeowner/site owner where the boundary is.

    Also, OP mentioned origianl map!


    At supertech - agree that the line are important and should be fully representative, but they have no legal basis. I accept your point about the area and boundary - the land registery do no 'check' and it is not legal. Kinda what I was saying originally.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Harry, are you saying that land registry maps are not legal registration of property?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    No, I'm saying that the lines indicated as site outline on a land registry map are not legal boundaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    harry21 wrote: »
    No, I'm saying that the lines indicated as site outline on a land registry map are not legal boundaries.
    We all know that but it doesnt release any of us from our responsibility of marking the boundaries and calculating the areas accurately.

    I asked the question before and it wasn't answered so I'll ask it again. Have you read the Land Registry's mapping requirements?


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    harry21 wrote: »
    At supertech - agree that the line are important and should be fully representative, but they have no legal basis. I accept your point about the area and boundary - the land registery do no 'check' and it is not legal. Kinda what I was saying originally.

    the certification and calculation of the areas certainly do have legal basis because the certifier can find themselves at the end of litigation should they be realised to be incorrect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    harry21 wrote: »
    Most peolple can use a tape, and the most experienced professionalwill still have to ask and depend on the homeowner/site owner where the boundary is.
    Well good luck to you and your naivety.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭harry21


    muffler wrote: »
    Well good luck to you and your naivety.

    That's nice of you.


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