E200 Kompressor

ArielAtom

Problems!!!!!!!!
My e200 sport 2006 has been up to now reasonable to run. That was until yesterday!!!!!!!!!!

Went in for service. 58,000mls.

I knew there was a ball joint gone. but was not expecting the following.

Two ball joints, pads all round, front disks, service. €780.00

Here's where it get expensive, gear cogs on camshaft and timing chain. €1500,00 plus!!!!!

I don't think I will be purchasing another one.

dgt

Owning a Merc and complaining about the price do not mix...

That seems quite a reasonable price for that service, considering the work that has to go in and the parts involved

blingrhino

dgt wrote: »

Owning a Merc and complaining about the price do not mix...

That seems quite a reasonable price for that service, considering the work that has to go in and the parts involved

The op is complaining about the price of the repairs, not the car price.
surely it is not unreasonable to question the" pinnicle of german enginenering" and the nessacary repairs in a car with less than 60000 miles :eek:

monkeysnapper

Ha ha, I bought a 2004 car a month ago for 1300 , that's why I only buy cheap crap cars , drive them for a couple of years and chuck them in the bin, Ironic thing is I'm guaranteed at least 200 scap metal for it at any time ,

Valetta

blingrhino wrote: »

The op is complaining about the price of the repairs, not the car price.
surely it is not unreasonable to question the" pinnicle of german enginenering" and the nessacary repairs in a car with less than 60000 miles :eek:

+1.

The OP could be a multi-millionaire for all we know.

It is still reasonable to complain about a premium car costing so much in repairs.

Francie Barrett

Replacing a timing chain at 58k miles seems a little crazy to me, although maybe you are better off being safe rather than sorry.

mickdw

Is this chain work due to a fault or is it somehow scheduled? Seems scandalous to me at that kind of mileage.
Are you sure of the mileage on your car?

DAZP93

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Ha ha, I bought a 2004 car a month ago for 1300 , that's why I only buy cheap crap cars , drive them for a couple of years and chuck them in the bin, Ironic thing is I'm guaranteed at least 200 scap metal for it at any time ,

Yes,but who want to climb into a bucket of scrap every morning..its hard enough to get out of bed at the best of times!

RobAMerc

Have you tried a Merc specialist ?? Seems the price for the chain is expensive.

post in other thread you commented on

ArielAtom

Chain and cog replacement are due to the fact that the cogs have worn badly. The reason I have been given is that the chains prior to 2005 were going early and Merc changed to compound makeup of the cogs to preserve the chain. It is now cogs that are going at €650.00 each plus the chain needs to needs replaced as well.

That and cross drilled disks that are three times the price of standard one's, oh and ball joints going to.

The mileage is correct as I have had from new. Just amazed that a piece of German engineering could go like this at under 58,000 miles!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not complaining about initial cost of car and am far from being a millionaire!!!!!!

That 700 figure to replace the chain should be taken with multiple grains of salt imo.

ArielAtom

dgt wrote: »

Owning a Merc and complaining about the price do not mix...

That seems quite a reasonable price for that service, considering the work that has to go in and the parts involved

I'm happy with the cost of the service and ball joint, disks and brake pads.

The camshaft gear cogs and timing chain is not sitting well with me. The fact that all this repair work has to be done before there is 58k on the clock does not give me confidence going forward with this brand.

I think Japanese or Korean next for me.

kippy

blingrhino wrote: »

The op is complaining about the price of the repairs, not the car price.
surely it is not unreasonable to question the" pinnicle of german enginenering" and the nessacary repairs in a car with less than 60000 miles :eek:

Expensive cars generally mean expensive parts and servicing.
German engineered parts are expensive.

ArielAtom

kippy wrote: »

Expensive cars generally mean expensive parts and servicing.
German engineered parts are expensive.

I understand that parts are expensive. It is the fact that all this has come with less than 58k on the clock. I don't think its to much to ask that a the repairs that were required should have happened with a few more miles on the clock.

RobAMerc

I think MB went through a very bad time from 00 to 06. Almost everything previous was fairly well put together ( think of the W124 probably the best built car in the world, not some bloody Toyota ) - It's a bit soon to talk about the newer stuff.

eth0

ArielAtom wrote: »

I don't think I will be purchasing another one.

Should have held on to the Ariel Atom?

mickdw

I would be seriously annoyed if that was my car, having bought it new with only 58k miles and having to change that sort of stuff.
Its silly for people to say that german car parts are expensive as if this crap is ok. Its not good enough and really, at that kind of mileage on a 1 owner car, mercedes should should be doing something for you even if it is 6 years old. I know they wont though

dgt

blingrhino wrote: »

The op is complaining about the price of the repairs, not the car price.
surely it is not unreasonable to question the" pinnicle of german enginenering" and the nessacary repairs in a car with less than 60000 miles :eek:

Then I have misinterpreted things once more

Carry on....

ofcork

Mercedes build quality went downhill from around 95/96 eg the W210 e class was poor compared to the W124.I agree mercedes should show some goodwill here at that mileage,i was looking at possibly buying an e class sport glad i didnt now and driving a 04 avensis with 142k miles on it.

galwaytt

kippy wrote: »

Expensive cars generally mean expensive parts and servicing.
German engineered parts are expensive.

Actually, no, quite often they're not. I bought 4 OEM vented discs and pads for my Porsche for just over 400.

What dealers/distributors charge however, is a different matter.

My recently-departed Porsches were both well engineered AND cheap to get parts/service for. But I wasn't using a main dealer - a specialist is always a better bet, even down to his hourly rate.

monkeysnapper

DAZP93 wrote: »

Yes,but who want to climb into a bucket of scrap every morning..its hard enough to get out of bed at the best of times!

Did anyone tell you the Celtic tiger buggered off a few years back.

DAZP93

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Did anyone tell you the Celtic tiger buggered off a few years back.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3838718

€1000 to buy..€1000 to tax..prob about €1500 on juice a year if your not doing the complete bollox doing laps aroound your local town..I would admit it is a bit ropey but its alot nicer than a punto of the same year.

A grand to tax a 2.8? Only 30 a week petrol? Are you well?

DAZP93

RoverJames wrote: »

A grand to tax a 2.8? Only 30 a week petrol? Are you well?

Appolagies, 1300 to tax. Nobody would buy a 2.8 doing massive annual mileage, and the same goes for someone buying a "cheap crap car", you would splash out and buy a good quality diesel that would make more econmonical sence for sure..but a small **** box, why bother when theres something a million times better for the same/cheaper price on the next page of donedeal.

Compare these 2..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3848629

or

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3710885

I know what I'd rather be driving..!!

.... Most people in large petrol cars will require more than 3.75 gallons of petrol per week imo

monkeysnapper

In all fairness my car I bought was a Peugeot partner car 1.4 petrol and it drives ok, my other Audi 1.9 tdi feels like a f1 car compared to it tho, it was a 2004 model with 2 years nct and 2 new tyres , all for 1300, but , miles are high tho and I had to put a clutch in her already, sooooooooo I'm inclined to scurry off under the rock I came from like a scardy cat..

Neffa2

Hi

What were the symptoms which led to the diagnosis of the timing chain problem - was it just an ECU readout or did you notice something too?

When my car is cold, it doesn't accelerate consistently - bit of a "wowing" effect, not unlike a slipping clutch, which goes away when the car warms up. Does that sound familiar?

My dealer is recommending mine is done too - although I have similar mileage, the car is an 03, so it's quite an outlay on a near 10 year old car.

ArielAtom wrote: »

Problems!!!!!!!!
My e200 sport 2006 has been up to now reasonable to run. That was until yesterday!!!!!!!!!!

Went in for service. 58,000mls.

I knew there was a ball joint gone. but was not expecting the following.

Two ball joints, pads all round, front disks, service. €780.00

Here's where it get expensive, gear cogs on camshaft and timing chain. €1500,00 plus!!!!!

I don't think I will be purchasing another one.

ArielAtom

Neffa2 wrote: »

Hi

What were the symptoms which led to the diagnosis of the timing chain problem - was it just an ECU readout or did you notice something too?

When my car is cold, it doesn't accelerate consistently - bit of a "wowing" effect, not unlike a slipping clutch, which goes away when the car warms up. Does that sound familiar?

My dealer is recommending mine is done too - although I have similar mileage, the car is an 03, so it's quite an outlay on a near 10 year old car.

Mine was an inspection by my mechanic, lifting rocker cover and visual inspection. He knows of the issue the E200'S have with regards to timing chains. The chain was the problem pre 2006, from 2006 it was the gear mechanism, this results in both the chain and gear cogs having to be replaced. He informs me that this will need to be done again in another 50/60k. MB have not solved the problem!!!

I would have though that it would have been relatively easy to have the correct metal compound in each part so as not to fcuk them both up in less than 60k.

Light Switch

monkeysnapper wrote: »

Ha ha, I bought a 2004 car a month ago for 1300 , that's why I only buy cheap crap cars , drive them for a couple of years and chuck them in the bin, Ironic thing is I'm guaranteed at least 200 scap metal for it at any time ,

Why are you even in the Motors section?

Some people enjoy getting into their Pride&Joy every morning, Be it a modern Merc/BMW, A classic Cortina or even a track prepped Nissan Skyline.

They are willing to pay for that enjoyment.

ofcork

The timing chain issue seems to be very common from reading mb world forums and honest john.

Wicklowandy

Light Switch wrote: »

Why are you even in the Motors section?

Some people enjoy getting into their Pride&Joy every morning, Be it a modern Merc/BMW, A classic Cortina or even a track prepped Nissan Skyline.

They are willing to pay for that enjoyment.

I cant agree.....you can buy some beautiful, maintained cars very reasonably at the moment because of the diesel/low tax fad; and also because people are desperate for cash.

There is a lot of sense in spending 1-3k at the moment and getting 1-2 years good driving. Then selling problems to someone else / scrapyard.

monkeysnapper

I have to say I made a very good family and financial decision when buying my car for 1300 but have to agree with a few posters here, it's as dull as dish water, I sold my Audi 1.8 petrol 2 years ago and it had half the milege, was a lovely car, large alloy wheels,

After my van engine broke and I decided to scrap it I still remember the mrs saying to me " just buy something cheap to get you buy for a couple of years , that was my opertunity to re live my youth and buy something with a bit of nostalgia .