Connecting Sky tv to a saorview tv

elroy45

I thought I would find loads of info on this online as I assumed many have come across this problem. But so far I am struggling to get an answer. Perhaps it is so simple- any help appreciated.

Bought a digital tv saorview ready for the auld lad for his kitchen. Currently he has an old tv there that picks up rte via the aerial on the roof but also has sky tv through the sky box in the sitting room.

Having replaced the tv with the digital tv, he now has all the rte channels including the new digital ones. However, he doesnt have sky tv. I cant seem to figure out why. The sky feed is not showing up on a scan. From my limited research so far it appears that the sky tv may be an analogue signal and the digital tv cant pick this up.

Anyone any ideas on this and more importantly how to rectify it?

Peter Rhea

Yes, the Sky box RF output is an analogue signal. The tv should have an analogue tuner, you might have to scan separately for analogue channels.

areyawell

Connect to the tv via a scart lead and then go to AV and it sky will appear. If its the normal analogue connection it will show up with the other analogue channels near the end of the channel list.

kbell

Do an auto scan, the tv should find the analogue channels inc the sky feed from the front room and digital channels also.
There may be a button on the remote to switch between A and D, or the analogue channels may be behind the digital in their listing eg..5 4 3 2 1 1 2 3 4 5
If its a Panasonic tv and theres a tv button on the remote, press it once or twice to toggle between AV analogue or Saorview.
Play around and you'll get sorted.

zg3409

Yes the lead from the Sky box need to go directly into the back of the new TV. Make sure the Sky box is on. Then do a scan on the TV for analogue channels.

To switch from Sky to Saorview you may need to press the "AV" button on the remote or turn off and on the Saorview box.

elroy45

Thanks lads. Is it possible that the TV can only scan for digital channels and wont pick up the analogue channels?

This is the Tv in question

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5298240/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C14419512/c_2/3%7Ccat_19780832%7CTelevisions%7C14419667.htm

Alba 16 Inch HD Ready Saorview LED DVD TV - Black

Television picture quality:
HD Ready display resolution.
Integrated Saorview digital tuner.
16in (40cm) widescreen TV.
Resolution 1366 x 768 pixels.
Refresh rate 50Hz.
Brightness 150cd/m2.
Contrast ratio 500:1 (dynamic).
Progressive scan.
Connectivity:
1 SCART socket, 1 USB port and 1 HDMI socket.
PC input socket.
Composite.
Headphone socket.
AV socket (rear).
DC socket (rear).
Sound quality:
NICAM sound system.
2 x 2.5 watts RMS power output.
Digital features:
Saorview approved to work with the Irish digital signal.
Digitally interactive.
Digital text.
Digital video broadcasting (DVB) subtitles available.
Auto setup.
Now and next programme guide.
Audio description compatible.
Additional features:
Sleep timer.
Child lock.
Remote control batteries required 2 x AAA (included).
Size of TV H25.6, W39, D4.99cm.
Weight of TV 2.2kg (unpackaged).
Size of TV with stand H28.6, W39, D11.8cm.
Weight of TV with stand 2.4kg.
Suitable for wall mounting (bracket not included).
Energy efficiency information:
Energy efficiency rating: A.
On mode power consumption 12.7 watts.
Annual power consumption 18.4kWh.

Peter Rhea

Mentions NICAM sound in the specs. That could indicate the presence of an analogue tuner. I'm not sure of all that NICAM was/is used for, but it's definitely part of analogue broadcasts in this part of the world (though NICAM is a digital format).

jonnygee

I would assume that the aerial from the roof is plugged into the rf input on the sky box and is sent to the other room from rf 2 out and controlled by a magic eye.
What i would try is to remove the aerial from the sky box rf in socket temporarily and then with the skybox switched on do a full rescan and see if the tv now picks up sky as that will be the only signal available to it.
If it does then you will have to change the skybox rf output to a different channel number.

Peter Rhea

The Sky box RF output/aerial setup worked alright with the old tv, according to OP.

jonnygee

The tuners on these are so easily overloaded, any previous setup does not apply.
Best to check for sky rf output without any other signals present.

AdrianR

There may be a button on your remote which toggles between Analogue and digital on my Philips dig tv it's a button near the top labeled "TV", some tv's seem to have all the channells dig and analogus listed sequentially, my tv hsa to be switched from dig to analogue and back to dig etc,

steveon

elroy45 wrote: »

Thanks lads. Is it possible that the TV can only scan for digital channels and wont pick up the analogue channels?

This is the Tv in question

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5298240/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C14419512/c_2/3%7Ccat_19780832%7CTelevisions%7C14419667.htm

Alba 16 Inch HD Ready Saorview LED DVD TV - Black

Television picture quality:
HD Ready display resolution.
Integrated Saorview digital tuner.
16in (40cm) widescreen TV.
Resolution 1366 x 768 pixels.
Refresh rate 50Hz.
Brightness 150cd/m2.
Contrast ratio 500:1 (dynamic).
Progressive scan.
Connectivity:
1 SCART socket, 1 USB port and 1 HDMI socket.
PC input socket.
Composite.
Headphone socket.
AV socket (rear).
DC socket (rear).
Sound quality:
NICAM sound system.
2 x 2.5 watts RMS power output.
Digital features:
Saorview approved to work with the Irish digital signal.
Digitally interactive.
Digital text.
Digital video broadcasting (DVB) subtitles available.
Auto setup.
Now and next programme guide.
Audio description compatible.
Additional features:
Sleep timer.
Child lock.
Remote control batteries required 2 x AAA (included).
Size of TV H25.6, W39, D4.99cm.
Weight of TV 2.2kg (unpackaged).
Size of TV with stand H28.6, W39, D11.8cm.
Weight of TV with stand 2.4kg.
Suitable for wall mounting (bracket not included).
Energy efficiency information:
Energy efficiency rating: A.
On mode power consumption 12.7 watts.
Annual power consumption 18.4kWh.

The Alba tvs only have a digital tuner, hence why there so cheap.....and u wont be able to tune in a skybox that is coming out on an analog frequency.

elroy45

Thanks all for your comments.

I have been away the last while so not able to try out some of the suggestions above until now but the right answer is Steveon's in that the tv does not possess an analogue tuner. Argos has since added that to the specification to note that it does not have an analogue tuner.

Dont want to splash out too much more on a tv- i see a few other models for 30/40 quid more but none seem to specify if they have an analogue tuner. Take for example the one below:

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5298635/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome+entertainment+and+sat+nav%7C14419512/c_2/3%7C19780832%7CTelevisions%7C14419667/c_3/4%7Ccat_14419667%7CLED+TVs%7C16180235.htm

The clean and stylish design of this 19 inch Samsung UE19D4003 TV makes it great for any bedroom or kitchen. Although ultra thin, this TV still provides HD Ready image quality as well as various connectivity options - including a PC input so your LED TV can double up as a computer monitor.
Television picture quality:

• HD Ready display resolution.
• Integrated.
• 19in (48.26cm) widescreen TV.
• Resolution 1366 x 768 pixels.
• Refresh rate 50Hz.
• (Dynamic).
• Samsung Hyper Real image enhancement.

Connectivity:

• 1 USB port and 2 HDMI sockets.
• Component video socket.
• Composite.
• Optical connection.
• Headphone socket.
• AV socket (rear).

Sound quality:

• Dolby Digital +SRS theatre sound HD sound system.
• 2 x 3 watts RMS power output.

Digital features:

• Saorview approved to work with the Irish digital signal.
• Digitally interactive.
• Digital text.
• Digital video broadcasting (DVB) subtitles available.
• Auto setup.
• Now and next programme guide.
• 8 day electronic programme guide (EPG).
• CI slot.
• Audio description compatible.

Additional features:

• Sleep timer.
• Child lock.
• Picture in picture (PIP).
• Remote control batteries required 2 x AAA (included).
• Size of TV H27.78, W44.72, D3.99cm.
• Weight of TV 2.8kg (unpackaged).
• Complete with tabletop stand.
• Size of TV with stand H31.24, W44.72, D1.24cm.
• Weight of TV with stand 2.9kg.
• Suitable for wall mounting with a VESA 75 x 75mm bracket (bracket not included).
• Manufacturer's 1 year guarantee.

Energy efficiency information:

• Energy efficiency rating: B.
• On mode power consumption 15 watts.
• Annual power consumption 34kWh.
• Standby power consumption 0.3 watt.
• Energy Saving Trust recommended.

Peter Rhea

The Triax Unilink is intended to solve the problem of delivering analogue RF signals to tvs without analogue tuner.

Seems to be quite new, no idea of cost.

Liameter

The Unilink looks similar to the Global DTA unit.
http://www.satcure.co.uk/accs/Global_DTA.htm